You need to decide if you are biased or not. On one thread you say you are biased then you are not. Please clarify cause this is getting ridiculous.
Hint: it is obvious you are biased
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Uncharted 4 Gameplay Demo [Up: Sony - Was running at 30 fps]
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You need to decide if you are biased or not. On one thread you say you are biased then you are not. Please clarify cause this is getting ridiculous.
Hint: it is obvious you are biased
gundamkyoukai
Member
I don't think anyone said it was a gen better looking.
I think UC4 looks better but not by a gen.
EmptySpace
Banned
yeah no let's not talk about the demo. i want more pics from other irrelevant games.
flaxknuckles
Member
Some of the people in here are acting like Uncharted 4 is already out and they've played it to completion with some of the stuff they post to defend it.
Mr Moose
Member
On PS4? Not a chance in hell.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Dead EyesI think it is rather similar:
Unrealistic facial expression
Cartoony face
4/10 - Would not bother comparing to UC 4
But Ryse,Crysis3 and Infamous are not just okay looking games in 2015
Game holds up even on low setting extremely well.
Actually higher tiers of settings are mostly related to environmental tech, not NPCs.
XxRampage07xX
Member
Holy shit! This thread is getting ridiculous. You guys know that this demo is a pre-alpha build, don't you?
Facial animation is where Naughty Dog is not that good; it looks wooden in the whole PSX demo... or perhaps PS4 just doesn't have the power, captain to pull it off.
Crysis 3 also fails in the facial animation department, especially in the eyes.
I think it is rather similar:
I still enjoy uncharteds animation more though probably.
U4 animation is more lifelike. Psycho is pretty dead. It is not similar.
I know the feel. But people like talk like was Carmack. The hell it's that shit about Crysis. Good Lord.
Dictator93
Member
I mean I know you are kidding, but I have a really hard time seeing how it looks cartoony or x amount worse than the UC4 one. His eyebrows are furrowed because he is angry, throughout that scene he goes through tons of different facial stances. It is just the gif is like 1.4 seconds lol.
I legitmately do not see that at all. Please point out why. People post that, but I have a hard time seeing such a large difference that apparently everyone is seeing. I do think the UC4 looks better (the skin shader is more to my liking and the facct that he has hair), but I do not see this "dead" eyes or stiffness at all. Espcially considering I know that that tech in Crysis 3 was specifically built to prevent stiffness of facial animation or dead eyes.
I think it is rather similar:
AstroNut325
Member
Just watched the full gameplay video in the OP. WOW! I'm amazed! I'm not getting the hate/negativity at all. The gameplay looks much more interesting and dynamic now. Can't wait.
Edit:
Posting cut scene shots from previous gen is doing a massive injustice towards what Naughty Dog is pulling off with Uncharted 4. Remember, those cut scenes were made using 7-8 linked PS3 rendering farms. If each PS3 is approximately at 300GF then ND was essentially working with over 2TF of single precision compute. If we assume 192GF for just the RSX then ND was using over 1.4TF!
Edit:
Posting cut scene shots from previous gen is doing a massive injustice towards what Naughty Dog is pulling off with Uncharted 4. Remember, those cut scenes were made using 7-8 linked PS3 rendering farms. If each PS3 is approximately at 300GF then ND was essentially working with over 2TF of single precision compute. If we assume 192GF for just the RSX then ND was using over 1.4TF!
Crysis 3 gets no respect. Now people are shitting on its visuals? It's an amazing looking game (image quality aside - it's insanely difficult to get really clean visuals at a good frame-rate with that game).
I also thinks it's a great game on top of that yet people also love to shit on its design as well. I don't think it tops Crysis 1 but it's still a very enjoyable experience (mostly).
I also thinks it's a great game on top of that yet people also love to shit on its design as well. I don't think it tops Crysis 1 but it's still a very enjoyable experience (mostly).
Now that was a wow moment. They aren't using anything even resembling the techniques we have today but, holy shit, that looked incredible for PS2 hardware. The level of detail in Douglas was really so far beyond anything else at the time. Of course the game is very restricted in terms of map size (divided into sections) but it's still super impressive for 2003.
If you take IQ into account, Unity isn't in the running on any console.
I don't believe in game play reveal anymore in this industry.
That's my two cents.
What I do know is that naughty dogs are great at making games look vivid and real looking. Can't wait for final build and how much it had improved (or not?)
I think it is rather similar:
I still enjoy uncharteds animation more though probably.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's pretty clear between the two gifs which company used facial capture and which isn't (then again I'm not surprised; ND didn't use facial capture for Last of Us either).
Just watched that color corrected vid from Gamersyde. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about the IQ of the game. It's incredibly clean, especially considering the massive amount of geometry in the scenes with all the vegetation. Really curious what AA solution ND is using.
gundamkyoukai
Member
What ??
Facial animation has always been good from ND you can't find anything that looks that much better to make there look bad.
If you can please show me.
You ever been to the Salt Lake City salt flats? Imagine being there, and Imagine some of the people in this thread.
That much salt is unhealthy
.Why should it look generationally better than Ryse to not be classified as average looking. Ryse is in the same freaking generation is it not?
I love this thread.
"Uncharted 4 merely looks okay for 2015"
"Not a generational difference (If you don't count native resolution, texture quality, and everything else that 'isn't important')"
When PC peeps start showing their wares in an Uncharted thread, I know it's doin its job with visuals.
Please, confirm to me that C3 on consoles is comparable to the WIP of Uncharted 4. Unless you're talking about PCs, which are not generational and you're being disingenuous.
"Uncharted 4 merely looks okay for 2015"
"Not a generational difference (If you don't count native resolution, texture quality, and everything else that 'isn't important')"
When PC peeps start showing their wares in an Uncharted thread, I know it's doin its job with visuals.
Please, confirm to me that C3 on consoles is comparable to the WIP of Uncharted 4. Unless you're talking about PCs, which are not generational and you're being disingenuous.
There really is an opinion for everything. ;_;
Dictator93
Member
I guess that is why I find it interesting that people are saying psycho looks like a dead dude and the german guy looks like an alien. They are based on real people and use the information aptured directly from those people.
No one is saying that Crysis 3 facial tech is better. There is a reason why Crytek pushed facial tech with Ryse, but Psycho looking dead? Really?
Biased because he thinks Unity looks better (it does)
Yeah, the AA needs more attention. It's really setting a new started for post-process AA (if it is indeed that). It looks damn near super-sampled at points, from what I can tell. Temporal aliasing is kept to an absolute minimum. That's far and away the most impressive thing about it.
His eyes seem off to me for some reason.This is some real life level of shit.
I have played Unity on PC and never came close to such realistic looking facial expressions. Kevin Spacey in Advanced Warfare is extremely good but has dead eyes syndrome.
They almost seem a bit flat, somehow.
VFX_Veteran
Banned
I'm not biased about a company like you guys are.
Have you ever seen me go crazy over the graphics in FC3? FC4? The Crew? I'm waiting....
gundamkyoukai
Member
Same can be said for frame rate which is one the reason i think UC2 or 3 more impressive than TLOU on PS3.
They don't give motion sickness lol
link plz?
VFX_Veteran
Banned
Everytime I ask to him what exactly in Unity is such magnificent, tech wise, he talk about art. But we are ot from awhile here or I m wrong
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Yea, but we are talking about the sum of all parts, not picking one separate game that's on par with a single piece, but completely falls short in every other comparison.
Yea, I've seen screenshots in other threads. UC4 looks much better, both in motion and in screenshots than Unity. You're the only one saying Unity looks better.
That's completely understandable
Dictator93
Member
I am not being disengenuous. Take a look what people post in response to the gif comparison. Some dude said that
Avatar's facial capture and secondary motion on its characters (wrinkles, hair) is multiple generations ahead of anything games have done. And yet, this guy references that in regards to my gif comparison.
I am saying the UC4 one looks better, but people saying that it looks close to real / looks that much better than everything else are just overexaggerating completely.
martino
Member
If vegatation is the same advantage go to the scene doing less culling to do the same (here the flat one)
http://www.gamersyde.com/download_un...-33753_en.html
I'd use the torrent as the site download seems to be getting hammered.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Are we comparing released products to ones a year off now?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I think they must be using 4xMSAA + something else, just like The Order. I have no idea how else they could it get to look like that. But yeah, the game looks super-clean, that much more surprising because there's so much tiny detail in everywhere.
Dictator93
Member
When people say that this looks X amount better than those released products, they are comparing them. Yes.
