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The earth has become small, and on it hops the Last Man, who makes everything small. His species is ineradicable as the flea ; the Last Man lives longest.
"We have discovered happiness" - say the Last Men.
- Thus Spoke Zarathustra , Friedrich Nietzsche
I see someone else has played Shadowman I hope you played the DC version.
I never knew Link and Simon's Quest weren't liked either till I read the net. I liked both. Link was way better than Zelda.The "Infamous 2s" NES trilogy - talked about, but only negatively.
Games which have been dismissed for years for "dragging the franchise in a wrong direction", blind tribalism or internet culture (looking at you AVGN).
Yes, sure, they had flaws here and there and could have been improved on many places, but so did the original games too. It's easy to look down on those games from the 30+ years tall mountain we stand on today. Yet they still offer very satisfying and complete experiences on their own.
About being the black sheeps of the franchises : when those games came out... their respective franchises weren't established yet. There were a set of rules and tonal guidelines the designers could follow, but everything else was open to creativity and experimentation. Gameplay wise, the developers were hungry to explore new ideas, even if it meant doing complete 180° on what was done before in order to offer refreshing experiences.
It even feels as if it would have been a betrayal and a creative failure to produce a lazy copy-paste sequel.
Mona Lisa 2
If Zelda II had sold better, maybe it's the top-view Zelda games that would have vanished forever ?
Maybe Wart would be ruling the kingdoms and it's Bowser who would have had a cameo in a side-view The Legend of Zelda : Link's Awakening ?
Perhaps Castlevania III would have been some proto-Souls game 20 years early ? Sky's the limit.
Or maybe the series would have simply ended, giving birth to new things.
But more importantly, if the "Infamous 2s" had been more successful, their respective franchises and the players would have evolved differently, as the concepts of "re-inventation" and "betraying expectations" would have become core features of their DNA.
Franchises weren't prisons yet. At best, a previous game was a safety-net which allowed developers to experiment.
Alas, numbers are king. And nowadays, development costs and fanboyism entrap developers into formulaic sequels reusing assets and tropes ad nauseam. It would be easy to put the blame on developers for being lazy or failing to deliver new experiences... which many are probably secretly dreaming of whilst they painfully add another layer of paint on an old ruin that begs to crumble down. Ultimately, it's us, the players, the consumers, who weren't able to grow accordingly and became lazy and comfortable, addicted to the dopamine rushes provided by gratifying feel-good muscle-memory and craving for more of the same.
The "Infamous 2s" were an opportunity -a door that briefly opened and revealed uncharted places- and we failed to seize it. And piling on that, it breaks my heart to see the hatred those unsung heroes are still getting. Though, to be fair, many efforts have been done to rehabilitate them again.
Personally, I would have loved to live in a world shaped by the "Infamous 2s". And ironically, in this world, they would have come, and simply gone too.
I really enjoyed the last 3 games on your list. Xanadu Next is one of the very few games I've completed 100%.I wasn't expecting to see this thread revived, keep'em coming guys I've found some pretty good stuff here.
here's another 6 games from me:
Silver: I remember this game getting called "the final fantasy for PC players" back in the day, it's a really good CRPG that definitely tried to appeal JRPG players, good story, good characters, good gameplay it also came out on dreamcast.
Pokémon Colosseum: this was NIntendo's first attempt at something different with the Pokémon franchise, while still keeping the essence of a monster collecting RPG, it has a darker story and different mechanics for battles, you can steal pokémon from other trainers mid-battle and battles are always 2 on 2 rather than 1 on 1, it's also infamous for being a lot harder than mainline pokémon games.
Lifeline: This is a very very unique game, instead of using a controller you use a headset to play, yep you read that right, you use voice commands in order to move your character and make her do everything only through voice commands, it even has a sort of turn based battle system were you choose between different parts of an enemy to attack. The game is very finicky with the english pronunciation and tends to not understand your commands but if you can get past this I assure you, this game is quite the experience.
The Last Remnant: I totally recommend this to players that like hardcore JRPGs like SaGa or Disgaea, this game is a Min-Maxing heaven, you can build your characters to be absolute killing machines with the right setups, it has very complex mechanics and it severely punishes players that grind too much, the soundtrack is also fantastical, the story is really bad tho. It recently got remastered for PS4 and Nintendo Switch.
Sanitarium: This is actually not an underrated game, at least not among Point and Click enthusiasts, however I do feel it's starting to get forgotten mainly for not getting the remaster treatment like other adventure games, this game is a very trippy and weird experience, with a very interpretational story, to this day I still don't know wtf this game was about but damn did I like it, it also has really good puzzles and dialog.
Xanadu Next: Another hidden gem by Nihon Falcom, I recently played the steam version and I was surprised to find what is essentially the precursor of Demon's Souls (there's a main hub you always return to, a maiden levels you up, there are many weapons that allow different fighting styles, it's a really hard game, etc.) so yeah to be honest I don't know how this 1 went unnoticed for so long.
Games which have been dismissed for years for "dragging the franchise in a wrong direction", blind tribalism or internet culture (looking at you AVGN).
Alien Isolation is overrated as fuck though.Alien Isolation. A 10/10 survival horror game given a criminal 8/10 aggregate just because of difficulty. I'll never not be annoyed about it.
Sanitarium is amazing. The puzzles are piece of shit adventure game puzzle ass puzzles... but the atmopshere is so dense, the game is almost unplayable. love it but it's flawed so not really udnerratedI wasn't expecting to see this thread revived, keep'em coming guys I've found some pretty good stuff here.
here's another 6 games from me:
Silver: I remember this game getting called "the final fantasy for PC players" back in the day, it's a really good CRPG that definitely tried to appeal JRPG players, good story, good characters, good gameplay it also came out on dreamcast.
Pokémon Colosseum: this was NIntendo's first attempt at something different with the Pokémon franchise, while still keeping the essence of a monster collecting RPG, it has a darker story and different mechanics for battles, you can steal pokémon from other trainers mid-battle and battles are always 2 on 2 rather than 1 on 1, it's also infamous for being a lot harder than mainline pokémon games.
Lifeline: This is a very very unique game, instead of using a controller you use a headset to play, yep you read that right, you use voice commands in order to move your character and make her do everything only through voice commands, it even has a sort of turn based battle system were you choose between different parts of an enemy to attack. The game is very finicky with the english pronunciation and tends to not understand your commands but if you can get past this I assure you, this game is quite the experience.
The Last Remnant: I totally recommend this to players that like hardcore JRPGs like SaGa or Disgaea, this game is a Min-Maxing heaven, you can build your characters to be absolute killing machines with the right setups, it has very complex mechanics and it severely punishes players that grind too much, the soundtrack is also fantastical, the story is really bad tho. It recently got remastered for PS4 and Nintendo Switch.
Sanitarium: This is actually not an underrated game, at least not among Point and Click enthusiasts, however I do feel it's starting to get forgotten mainly for not getting the remaster treatment like other adventure games, this game is a very trippy and weird experience, with a very interpretational story, to this day I still don't know wtf this game was about but damn did I like it, it also has really good puzzles and dialog.
Xanadu Next: Another hidden gem by Nihon Falcom, I recently played the steam version and I was surprised to find what is essentially the precursor of Demon's Souls (there's a main hub you always return to, a maiden levels you up, there are many weapons that allow different fighting styles, it's a really hard game, etc.) so yeah to be honest I don't know how this 1 went unnoticed for so long.
These games were huge on PC back in the day.
Alien Isolation is overrated as fuck though.
It's an excellent 4 hour game stretched to 20 hours with just hiding under table and enabling power generators/opening doors with minigames.
Apparently I am not the only one who thinks that way
So many of my favorite games, I'd consider underrated. Clock Tower 3, Haunting Ground/Demento, Custom Robo on the Gamecube, Resident Evil Zero, ZombiU, even gaming hardware wise, I feel like the Neo Geo Mini's underrated in the realm of video game minis, when I asked Gamestop about it, only one employee out of like 4 knew what it was lol.
The reason is MH is for advanced and expert gamers. World is more easy and casual so this is why is most famous in western.Monster Hunter games before MHW. They never got the love they deserved until World came along for whatever reason.
I wasn't expecting to see this thread revived, keep'em coming guys I've found some pretty good stuff here.
here's another 6 games from me:
Silver: I remember this game getting called "the final fantasy for PC players" back in the day, it's a really good CRPG that definitely tried to appeal JRPG players, good story, good characters, good gameplay it also came out on dreamcast.
Pokémon Colosseum: this was NIntendo's first attempt at something different with the Pokémon franchise, while still keeping the essence of a monster collecting RPG, it has a darker story and different mechanics for battles, you can steal pokémon from other trainers mid-battle and battles are always 2 on 2 rather than 1 on 1, it's also infamous for being a lot harder than mainline pokémon games.
Lifeline: This is a very very unique game, instead of using a controller you use a headset to play, yep you read that right, you use voice commands in order to move your character and make her do everything only through voice commands, it even has a sort of turn based battle system were you choose between different parts of an enemy to attack. The game is very finicky with the english pronunciation and tends to not understand your commands but if you can get past this I assure you, this game is quite the experience.
The Last Remnant: I totally recommend this to players that like hardcore JRPGs like SaGa or Disgaea, this game is a Min-Maxing heaven, you can build your characters to be absolute killing machines with the right setups, it has very complex mechanics and it severely punishes players that grind too much, the soundtrack is also fantastical, the story is really bad tho. It recently got remastered for PS4 and Nintendo Switch.
Sanitarium: This is actually not an underrated game, at least not among Point and Click enthusiasts, however I do feel it's starting to get forgotten mainly for not getting the remaster treatment like other adventure games, this game is a very trippy and weird experience, with a very interpretational story, to this day I still don't know wtf this game was about but damn did I like it, it also has really good puzzles and dialog.
Xanadu Next: Another hidden gem by Nihon Falcom, I recently played the steam version and I was surprised to find what is essentially the precursor of Demon's Souls (there's a main hub you always return to, a maiden levels you up, there are many weapons that allow different fighting styles, it's a really hard game, etc.) so yeah to be honest I don't know how this 1 went unnoticed for so long.
Galak-Z: The Dimensional.
This little shooter by 17 bit is criminally underrated. I’ve poured well over 1,000 hours into it. It’s the first shooter I’ve played where the enemies actually put up a fight against the player and demand some skill above just dodging a constant bullet storm while pointing your guns in their general direction and holding the fire button down.
Enemies evaded your shots, flanked, called for back up, and even retreated when severely damaged to have their friends cover for them while their shields recharged. The A.I. engine (sentience) was very impressive and lent itself well to some incredibly intense dogfights. Each type of enemy also required differing tactics to best defeat them, and there was more than one faction who were fighting each other as well as you that you could kite to create massive engagements. The levels were procedurally generated as well which kept the game fresh.
Unfortunately, when it released it was criticized for being too difficult and not being a twin stick shooter, but it didn’t need to be. I'm seriously bummed there will be no sequel as it did not sell well. IMO though, it’s bar none the best 2D shooter ever created and deserved a follow up.
I mean... everyone can have their own opinion, sure. But what part do you not agree with ?Yeah, those guys are as retarded as they look.
Got this on Switch a few weeks ago cause it was on deep discount. I liked what I read about it though it's a real shame the performance on consoles isn't optimal. Have yet to sink much time in it though I certainly plan on doing so.
Its style of shooting is very much in the vein of retro shooters like Asteroids and Maelstrom and it's a nice reminder for me.
IT’S OUT FOR SWITCH??!?!?!???
Wha...?
Holy shitballs you’ve just made my day good man. I knew Variant S was available, but that was only a freemium, gutted version. Never knew the full version dropped. Really appreciate this!
The original Prey > reboot.Only the hecking coolest FPS out there. Its intro is out of this world, and the high never comes down till the credits roll. A fuckin thrill. GAF should be all over this masterpiece.
Prey
A mindbending setting with gravity-defying wall-walks and living alien weapons, built with id Tech. Still waiting on that sequel.
One of my favorite racing games, an arcadey off-road experience from Techland and Ubisoft. Great speed, neat tricks. Techland had previously released a similar game with Nail'd, but I found that one boring as hell, and easy to the point where I never even saw my opponents once I left the start line. Mad Riders, this is where they nail'd it.
Mad Riders
One of four games that I've ever pre-ordered. Was real pissed when Ubisoft cancelled the PC version, and thrilled as heck when they brought it back, and with added content. A digital-only post-apocalyptic adventure, featuring dangerous climbs and limited supplies. One of the primary mechanics of the game is to intimidate enemies with an unloaded weapon, something I believe The Last of Us also marketed itself off of, though never delivered on.
I Am Alive
VERY. If you hadn’t replied I’d be none the wiser. Suppose I should’ve checked the eshop again but figured if they put out one version that’s all there’d be, especially a gutted one. Unintentional it may have been, you’ve made me one happy camper regardless.Hah, I didn't do anything. I did appreciate your write up on Galak-Z enough to reply, so I guess we're even
The past few weeks have been a good time to snap up some of these smaller titles on the eshop at a discounted price.
Had Galak-Z on PS4 thanks to PS Plus but Switch comes with The Void as well and I generally prefer playing games like these on the Switch unless performance is a chasm apart.
But yea, glad to know you're happy!
Maybe because the art that is so '' SNK'' Look at Zero, seems weird like a Human, but is one of my favorita fight games. And sometimes is broken the gameplay with Shin Mr KaratePretty sure I played the game in a demo disc and it was indeed very interesting. I will check it out thanks for the reminder.
My pick for the topic is SVC Chaos :
I love this fighting game, definitely in my top 5. It had pretty negative reviews though. Really don't understand why, the game is awesome and plays very well. Gameplay is fast, and the impacts don't feel that strong, but this can't be the reason ? Excellent game, much better work than what Capcom did in the Capcom VS SNK games in my opinion.
Alien Isolation is overrated as fuck though.
It's an excellent 4 hour game stretched to 20 hours with just hiding under table and enabling power generators/opening doors with minigames.
Apparently I am not the only one who thinks that way
My bet is that not many played it pas even the beginning. OH IT"S ALIEN, ALIEN IS COOL, I THINK I LOVE ALIEN, ITS POPULAR TO LIKE THE ALIEN... if You know what I meanVery overrated apparently, by lots of people that dont understand they're playing padded gameplay.
9/10 on steam 18,700 votes
88 on metacritic user reviews
My bet is that not many played it pas even the beginning. OH IT"S ALIEN, ALIEN IS COOL, I THINK I LOVE ALIEN, ITS POPULAR TO LIKE THE ALIEN... if You know what I mean
VERY. If you hadn’t replied I’d be none the wiser. Suppose I should’ve checked the eshop again but figured if they put out one version that’s all there’d be, especially a gutted one. Unintentional it may have been, you’ve made me one happy camper regardless.
Game runs decently too. Admittedly it’s hard to swallow going back to 30 FPS from the PC’s 60, the performance difference is definitely noticeable, but the fact I now have this on portable and can play it wherever I want more than makes up for it.
And yeah, titles like these are prime for the platform. Nintendo’s really hitting it out of the park with the Switch. Galak-Z, Spintires, Hollow Knight (and soon Silk Song), Ori (and maybe its sequel?). And then the NES/SNES (even though I’d rather buy them than get them through a subscription). It’s nonetheless incredible to have all these on the go.
Loved Descent, man that was back in the day when Interplay was in prime form. Had some great AI as well. If you liked it and haven’t already, give Overload a try on Steam. Many former devs from Parallax Software worked on it, it’s basically Descent’s spiritual successor.Yea I'd assumed similarly to you, that Variant S was all we'd get. I just happened to see the deal on reddit weeks ago so I got it. Definitely loved the description about AI. Speaking of which, have you ever played the PC game "Descent"?
Yup, I can imagine how it feels to go from 60 to 30fps, have done that with numerous games. It's a conscious tradeoff for sure but I get the feeling that if Galak-Z was programmed better it might be able to hit 60; even on PS4 it doesn't perform amazingly.
But yea, I'm a sucker for roguelike/lites on Switch so unless it's borderline unplayable it'll probably end up on the system XD
Ori 2 looks like it's more demanding than the first game but I gotta say I haven't really rewatched the trailer since it showed at TGA.
BTW it's eshop sales period again, best check the shop to see if there are anymore indie crack you'd wanna stockpile in the Switch haha.
I loved this game, even though it was so simple. I think it was due to the camera having that fish eye lens when you sped up, and the fact that the trucks spent more time in the air than on ground. Too bad Excitebots was only released in the US.Excite Truck on the Wii was one of the few games that was actually fun with motion controls.