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Playstation, Xbox and Nintendo:

 

[The Alien]

So if that's the case, expect more exclusivity and GamePass/PS+ launches.

 

[RoadHazard]

What are the top unity games? Isn't this a Unisoft engine not EA?

Genshin Impact is THE Unity game I guess. And of course a lot of indies.

I don't know what Unisoft is, do you mean Ubisoft? They mostly use internal tech I believe.

 

[TonyK]

 

[cyberheater]

Unity wouldn’t have said that unless the already had full agreement from the big 3 would they. Would they…

 

[Gudji]

Console makers right now:

 

[Shakka43]

Expecting a "We hear you loud and clear..." statement coming out soon from them.

 

[StereoVsn]

I don't see how. Any client that is under 100k in sales get to use the unity license for free. If there's too many clients under 100k they would just lower the threshold to 75k$ or whatever.

This is more of an attempt at a new revenue stream.

How does unity make money? Subscriptions to its software.(basically)

Why do they feel that isn't sufficient now? Less subscribers or the fear of it.

Why less subs? Basically instead of tons of game devs companies buying, they fear a huge gaming consolidation wave coming, where they are selling subs to only a handful of corporations.

That's my best guess anyway.

Subs are based on user sales. So Genshin installs 20 mil copies but only 5000 whales pay for it (ignore these Numbers, just an example), Unity would get paid for 5K sales but not for the other millions of users.

That's why they want to change to charge per install.

 

[jshackles]

Expecting a "We hear you loud and clear..." statement coming out soon from them.

But one followed by new terms that will still be worse than the terms devs had last week before this all started

 

[Fake]

Play stupid games...

 

[VolticArchangel]

Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo scrambling their lawyers into a top secret classified meeting about the Unity policy change and how they're going to handle this earth shattering revelation going forward, and their live reactions rn:

Spoiler

 

[Elder Legend]

Play stupid games...

Win stupid prizes.

 

[ckaneo]

Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo scrambling their lawyers into a top secret classified meeting about the Unity policy change and how they're going to handle this earth shattering revelation going forward, and their live reactions rn:

Spoiler

Were the colors intentional here?

 

[brian0057]

Me watching Unity self-immolate because of their stupid decisions:

 

[Robb]

This is just getting more and more ridiculous.

 

[Phase]

It's been very amusing watching a company with "Unity" in their name managing to piss off nearly everyone in only a few hours.

I just love to see hubris turned into self-immolation.

 

[Hudo]

Tim Tencent Sweeney must be loving this right now.

 

[akaFullmetal]

I really think this is going to blow back hard on unity. People are just going to get away from using it in general moving forward, which is the exact opposite of what they want.

 

[Portugeezer]

 

[Guilty_AI]

Tim Tencent Sweeney must be loving this right now.

 

[Robb]

 

[DeepEnigma]

Which would then be passed on to the consumer, eventually.

Slimeballs. Hope this backfires extravagantly.

 

[Guilty_AI]

How long until they start blaming sexism and gamergate?

 

[Tommi84]

 

[Investor9872]

They are trying really hard to get all of the games made with Unity banned from all platforms.

 

[Dazraell]

Tim Tencent Sweeney must be loving this right now.

I'm curious if the same logic Unity just used for consoles will apply to games on Unity that Epic gave for free on EGS. Would be hilarious if they would try to bill Epic too

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

Remember what happened when CDPR said everyone could get a refund for Cyberpunk, before consulting with Sony?

I had to deal with Sony's costumers service in the earlier 2010 and it was the worst, maybe behind just Nintendo
When I saw CDProject announcing that people should ask for refunds directly to Sony I knew things would get ugly LMAO

 

[Slicker than your average]

Live company suicide is always fun to watch. No way in hell any storefront will pay for that on "developers' behalf", especially PlayStation.

Goodbye Unity, it was nice knowing you, I guess.

Why especially playstation? Nintendo the company that shuts down any fan projects and is making some Canadian guy pay 30% of his salary for the rest of his life.

Or you have successfully bought into MS being the pro consumer choice LOL.

 

[SJRB]

Amazing.

 

[Hudo]

I'm curious if the same logic Unity just used for consoles will apply to games on Unity that Epic gave for free on EGS. Would be hilarious if they would try to bill Epic too

Lmao. That would really be hilarious.

 

[StereoVsn]

A

mazing.

Money clearly well spent.

 

[winjer]

Amazing.

Those 5 bastards are bleeding the company dry.

 

[Sephimoth]

How long until they start blaming sexism and gamergate?

They're already on the way to that, after having Death Threats™

 

[Unknown Soldier]

PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo:

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

"Entity that distributes the runtime" could mean anything.

I'm assuming it means the publisher, or the indie developer in case there's no publisher.

If it's really responsability of the storefront which the software is distributed at, then I assume they will simply discount some % from the developer every time a user purchases a game.

That may be more complicated for F2P games with microtransactions and ads though.
But I assume in that scenario they can use this to get rid of the fee:

Unity is offering a Runtime Fee waiver if you switch to LevelPlay as it tries to "kill AppLovin" - Mobilegamer.biz

Or, as UA consultant Matej Lancaric puts it: “Unity is saying ‘migrate to LevelPlay or you will need to pay a shit-ton of money’".

mobilegamer.biz

 

[Pop]

 

[kingfish]

Jim Ryan:
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[kirby007]

so that ceo that sold shares, in which competitor did he pump it

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

It is probably more likely that MS/Sony/Nintendo already knew about these price hikes. Since Unity is passing the cost through the platform holder this is probably a way of reducing the amount of revenue that studios (read AA and below) will collect from subscription platforms.

“We want to make your game a huge success and our platform has 30 million subscribers. We will have to account for the install fee since your game is using Unity but we will absorb most* of that for you”

Meanwhile they already have a backend deal with unity to offset some of these install costs.

A very pessimistic take I know but I wouldn’t count it out.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

It is probably more likely that MS/Sony/Nintendo already knew about these price hikes. Since Unity is passing the cost through the platform holder this is probably a way of reducing the amount of revenue that studios (read AA and below) will collect from subscription platforms.

“We want to make your game a huge success and our platform has 30 million subscribers. We will have to account for the install fee since your game is using Unity but we will absorb most* of that for you”

Meanwhile they already have a backend deal with unity to offset some of these install costs.

A very pessimistic take I know but I wouldn’t count it out.

From what I've heard, they were blindsided by this.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[L*][*N*K]

And who is covering the biggest market? Mobile and PC you dumbfucks?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

No we will fucking not.

 

[Valkyria]

Americans please, I think it's time you copy the french. You are being spoiled by bunch of greedy dragons.

 

[Kataploom]

IF this is true, I wouldn't be surprised if their motivations are literally destructive, like literally destroy the company as it makes them more money short term and then move the fuck out from it to another victim

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

I'm sure some will fall for this, just like how people think taxing big corps and the rich won't get passed down.

 

[bender]

Unity wouldn’t have said that unless the already had full agreement from the big 3 would they. Would they…

I imagine this is how the negotiations went.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

IF this is true, I wouldn't be surprised if their motivations are literally destructive, like literally destroy the company as it makes them more money short term and then move the fuck out from it to another victim

 

[lughnasadh123]

 

[aclar00]

So thats the reason for the PSN increase....actually probably is one reason.