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[Calamari41]

I hope you are right, but I fear that the Kingsmoot, and by extension Yara's uncles, will be cut from the show.

I'll just say it: if Victarion and Euron are cut from the show, I will stop watching after this season is over.

Victarion's rampage towards Mereen is my favorite part of the books, and I will be incredibly salty if it is gone for no good reason. Yes, I'm sure he is just being set up for a cool death (I know nothing about Winds of Winter so this isn't any kind of spoiler), but I love him all the same.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

my first thought at the end of this episode was

i hope we get to see oberyn and loras bang

good ep though, kinda with Cersei had been a little more upset, but I got a little chill when she yelled "Take him!", that was great.

You know what, now that you mention it, I can almost guarantee we'll see it next week.

 

[Showaddy]

Is there any way Dany's getting to Westeros anytime soon without Victarion's fleet?

 

[A Human Becoming]

I'll just say it: if Victarion and Euron are cut from the show, I will stop watching after this season is over.

If they cut them that means removing the Iron Born invasion of the Shield. That scenario is bound to be continue being relevant in the books, so why do it?

 

[Calamari41]

If they cut them that means removing the Iron Born invasion of the Shield. That scenario is bound to be continue being relevant in the books, so why do it?

I'm totally with you. Getting rid of them takes way too big a chunk out of the "happenings" of the later books. Even if it isn't involved in the end-game, who cares? Leave some cool stuff in.

 

[Exterminieren]

The Kingsmoot will almost certainly be cut, IMO. Balon will die, Euron will claim the Seastone Chair, and will proceed to rub Victarion's face in it, before sending him to retrieve Dany halfway through the season. Asha will be nowhere near- they wouldn't be sending her across Westeros just to immediately being her back again- and Damphair will be totally cut.

I can't see them giving Euron and Victarion the cut. They both strike me as too important to the story's overall direction. The rest will get the heave-ho, though. It's just a case of simplification, honestly- rather than burning screen time with a complicated electoral system that doesn't feature any characters we know, just change the rules of succession and get on with it.

Actually, I'm willing to bet that both Yara and Theon are presumed dead by the Ironborm by the time Balon dies.

 

[Dawg]

I think we'll see Victarion/Euron next season.

 

[FootballFan]

I'll just say it: if Victarion and Euron are cut from the show, I will stop watching after this season is over.

Victarion's rampage towards Mereen is my favorite part of the books, and I will be incredibly salty if it is gone for no good reason. Yes, I'm sure he is just being set up for a cool death (I know nothing about Winds of Winter so this isn't any kind of spoiler), but I love him all the same.

Victarion...

I would not miss him to be honest.

 

[SamVimes]

Victarion...

I would not miss him to be honest.

If they get a good actor he has the potential to be as funny as show Joffrey.

 

[Exterminieren]

I think we'll see Victarion/Euron next season.

I do too. Euron, in particular, has been hinted to be much too integral to the series, IMO.

 

[Walter White Walker]

I can see the Kingsmoot being cut - the only thing of import out of it was that Euron has a dragon horn thing and they can incorporate that into another scene.

 

[Exterminieren]

Probably not unless it's a major deviation. Something like this where they're just moving up content isn't a big deal.

So... Would any reports about what Yara's doing this season need spoiler-tagging?

 

[Trasher]

I'll just say it: if Victarion and Euron are cut from the show, I will stop watching after this season is over.

Victarion's rampage towards Mereen is my favorite part of the books, and I will be incredibly salty if it is gone for no good reason. Yes, I'm sure he is just being set up for a cool death (I know nothing about Winds of Winter so this isn't any kind of spoiler), but I love him all the same.

Does he really rampage towards Mereen? I can't even remember him doing that much except for the fleet doing one engagement along the Westerosi coastline at one point. And then picking up that random red priest that heals his hand. Please refresh me though. I don't remember much rampaging.

 

[emag]

its becoming more and more obvious that AFFC/ADWD will be finished by the end of season 5, which is what I expected.

We can only hope.

 

[Real Hero]

Victarion is hilarious. Him interacting with Tyrion should be great.

 

[Calamari41]

Victarion...

I would not miss him to be honest.

Come on, bro, given the choice between seeing him step out of that cabin amidst steam and smoke with his lava arm ready to start slitting childrens' throats versus not seeing it, you would choose to not see it?

Vick is on the way to punch a dragon in the face. It must be seen.

Does he really rampage towards Mereen? I can't even remember him doing that much except for the fleet doing one engagement along the Westerosi coastline at one point. And then picking up that random red priest that heals his hand. Please refresh me though. I don't remember much rampaging.

His last chapter in DwD is all about him taking over numerous fleets and sacrificing kids to both the red and drowned gods on the path to Mereen.

It's great because everybody else has been pussyfooting around all book getting to Mereen, and Vick gets there in a chapter.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

I think we'll see Victarion/Euron next season.

With all of the actors dieing this season they'll have more money to add more next.

I could think of many side character that could be cut out but those two really couldn't.

 

[FootballFan]

Does he really rampage towards Mereen? I can't even remember him doing that much except for the fleet doing one engagement along the Westerosi coastline at one point. And then picking up that random red priest that heals his hand. Please refresh me though. I don't remember much rampaging.

No I think you got the gist of the brute that is Victarion.

Hope he meets his end soon. Dislike him greatly.

Come on, bro, given the choice between seeing him step out of that cabin amidst steam and smoke with his lava arm ready to start slitting childrens' throats versus not seeing it, you would choose to not see it?

Vick is on the way to punch a dragon in the face. It must be seen.

While cool and would love a visual of the mayhem he causes, I really hope he gets devoured by a dragon.

#VictarionOUT

P.S. I like your enthusiasm and love of Victarion.

 

[Herr K]

Season 5 will only deal with Damphair's story. We'll see how things develop in Westeros through him.

 

[Real Hero]

The most beautiful woman in the world has urgent need of my axe. How can you hate this guy!

 

[Dawg]

With all of the actors dieing this season they'll have more money to add more next.

I could think of many side character that could be cut out but those two really couldn't.

Exactly what I was thinking. Especially with Tywin & Joffrey gone, they could use some new characters.

I do too. Euron, in particular, has been hinted to be much too integral to the series, IMO.

This, too. I don't think they can just scrap them.

 

[Calamari41]

While cool and would love a visual of the mayhem he causes, I really hope he gets devoured by a dragon.

#VictarionOUT

P.S. I like your enthusiasm and love of Victarion.

This is why I'm ok with Winds of Winter taking a while to come out. Of course he is going to be (justly) eaten by a dragon, but as long as those words aren't in front of us, I can imagine him punching Viserion or Rhaegal into obedience. With his lava arm. While Blood and Thunder plays in the background.

Hold on, I'm getting too pumped, I'm gonna go run a few laps while shadow boxing.

 

[FootballFan]

This is why I'm ok with Winds of Winter taking a while to come out. Of course he is going to be (justly) eaten by a dragon, but as long as those words aren't in front of us, I can imagine him punching Viserion or Rhaegal into obedience. With his lava arm. While Blood and Thunder plays in the background.

Hold on, I'm getting too pumped, I'm gonna go run a few laps while shadow boxing.

Lol.

That's the thing we do not know where the story will lead him, hopefully straight into a dragons belly.

 

[Violater]

Christ now I am just back to wanting the next book.

 

[Fuzzy]

Anyone want a new avatar? Take it.

EDIT: Gone.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Anyone want a new avatar? Take it.

Tempted, but I have to keep rocking Boyd Crowder.

 

[Kuraudo]

Dominic West and Ray Stevenson as Euron and Victarion, please.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I hope you are right, but I fear that the Kingsmoot, and by extension Yara's uncles, will be cut from the show.

I hope not. I think it would be a real shame to lose the Kingsmoot, and especially the rest of the Greyjoy family. But I really have no idea how exactly they'll be handling all of that. There hasn't been a lot of set up for that storyline so far.

I feel like Euron and Victarion are too major to be cut out entirely, even if the Kingsmoot gets skipped over. Aeron could be cut, although the fact that Cogman mentioned him as one of his favorite characters and said he wanted to write for him in the show at least gives me some hope that he'll make the cut.

It would be a real shame if we missed out on seeing more of the Ironborn culture and the developing story in the Iron Islands during next season.

 

[Calamari41]

Lol.

That's the thing we do not know where the story will lead him, hopefully straight into a dragons belly.

His best-case outcome short term is heading up Dany's fleet or something. Worst cast is blowing that horn and evaporating into ashes.

 

[Exterminieren]

Season 5 will only deal with Damphair's story. We'll see how things develop in Westeros through him.

Episode 9 to be an extended "No godless man may sit the Seastone Chair!" monologue.

 

[Walter White Walker]

Anyone want a new avatar? Take it.

Dibs!

 

[Iksenpets]

The Kingsmoot will almost certainly be cut, IMO. Balon will die, Euron will claim the Seastone Chair, and will proceed to rub Victarion's face in it, before sending him to retrieve Dany halfway through the season. Asha will be nowhere near- they wouldn't be sending her across Westeros just to immediately being her back again- and Damphair will be totally cut.

I can't see them giving Euron and Victarion the cut. They both strike me as too important to the story's overall direction. The rest will get the heave-ho, though. It's just a case of simplification, honestly- rather than burning screen time with a complicated electoral system that doesn't feature any characters we know, just change the rules of succession and get on with it.

Actually, I'm willing to bet that both Yara and Theon are presumed dead by the Ironborm by the time Balon dies.

This is how I see it going, too. It would feel weird to have Asha double back to the islands for the Kingsmoot. And if Asha's not there, there's really no point to the Kingsmoot. Just have Euron take the throne uncontested. Then Asha can learn that her dad is dead and that Euron has usurped her crown, and then just build up to her eventual return to the islands to deal with that (at least I assume that's where her book arc is going) in some later season.

 

[Fuzzy]

His best-case outcome short term is heading up Dany's fleet or something. Worst cast is blowing that horn and evaporating into ashes.

TWoW

Spoiler

He won't be blowing it himself. He's smarter than that.

 

[PhoenixDark]

If they cut them that means removing the Iron Born invasion of the Shield. That scenario is bound to be continue being relevant in the books, so why do it?

Considering they have cut Loras' brothers, I have a feeling this is going to be cut as well. It does indeed seem like it's going to be a big deal in the books, however I'm sure the show can come up with something to replace it.

Garlan is leading the second largest Reach force to the islands to face off with Euron. If the Tyrells are defeated, Euron will have a clear shot at Highgarden. I can't wait to learn what happens, although I'm bummed there isn't a POV character there to show us everything in TWOW. Well unless the Damphair goes with Euron I guess, which seems unlikely.

 

[Calamari41]

TWoW

Spoiler

He won't be blowing it himself. He's smarter than that.

TWOW

Spoiler

That's right, I remember that coming out a while ago. He figures it out because one of Euron's pirates bit it after blowing it at the kingsmoot, right?

 

[Iksenpets]

Considering they have cut Loras' brothers, I have a feeling this is going to be cut as well. It does indeed seem like it's going to be a big deal in the books, however I'm sure the show can come up with something to replace it.

Garlan is leading the second largest Reach force to the islands to face off with Euron. If the Tyrells are defeated, Euron will have a clear shot at Highgarden. I can't wait to learn what happens, although I'm bummed there isn't a POV character there to show us everything in TWOW. Well unless the Damphair goes with Euron I guess, which seems unlikely.

Martin is going to tell it through 16 chapters of Garlan POV just to spite the show runners for cutting him.

 

[Trasher]

Dominic West and Ray Stevenson as Euron and Victarion, please.

West already turned down playing Mance.

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Ray Winstone needs to appear in this show someplace.

 

[Tacitus_]

Episode 9 to be an extended "No godless man may sit the Seastone Chair!" monologue.

Well at least we'll know whether a godless man may sit the Seastone Chair or not.

 

[Willkiller]

Ray Winstone needs to appear in this show someplace.

No. No he doesn't.

 

[The Smoking Bun]

Re-watching the first season, do the Dothraki have no concept of loyalty? They seem to abandon Drogo and their Khaleesi who will give birth to THE STALLION THAT MOUNTS THE WORLD!! at the drop of a hat. Oh Drogo fell off his horse, welp time to pout him down!

 

[Lord of Castamere]

His best-case outcome short term is heading up Dany's fleet or something. Worst cast is blowing that horn and evaporating into ashes.

I doubt GRRM got the guy half way around the world to kill him off this quickly.
He already did that in the last book but to prove a point.
Honestly considering how bleak the world is I honestly think he might get control of a Dragon. Assuming fan theories are false and Jon isn't the third rider. How Mary sue would it be if Jon turns out to be the Third Rider and the Lord of Light?

 

[Calamari41]

Re-watching the first season, do the Dothraki have no concept of loyalty? They seem to abandon Drogo and their Khaleesi who will give birth to THE STALLION THAT MOUNTS THE WORLD!! at the drop of a hat. Oh Drogo fell off his horse, welp time to pout him down!

That last sentence is basically it. They follow whoever is the strongest. Like, if that one guy who challenged Drogo near the end of the season had actually won, everyone would have started following him without missing a beat.

 

[Real Hero]

I think Victarion will do something major in relation to the dragons. His last chapter was finally his name that's got to mean something.

 

[Herr K]

Episode 9 to be an extended "No godless man may sit the Seastone Chair!" monologue.

Episode 10 will feature Damphair seating by the sea. Nothing else. One hour of him meditating and the sound of waves.

 

[Willkiller]

I'm not sure why people think the Ironborn stuff will be cut.

 

[Real Hero]

I'm not sure why people think the Ironborn stuff will be cut.

Some people just don't like it, same goes for Dorne. But I don't see how you can cut either really, unless martin has revealed to the show runners they don't do anything important which i can't see being the case.

 

[Willkiller]

Some people just don't like it, same goes for Drone. But I don't see how you can cut either really.

Well that's my point, it seems to be to be pretty integral to the overall plot. Scaled back sure, but cut? I can't see it.

 

[Trasher]

My nightmare scenario is if they somehow find a way to give Yara all of Victarion's storyline...

 

[A Human Becoming]

The Kingsmoot will almost certainly be cut, IMO. Balon will die, Euron will claim the Seastone Chair, and will proceed to rub Victarion's face in it, before sending him to retrieve Dany halfway through the season. Asha will be nowhere near- they wouldn't be sending her across Westeros just to immediately being her back again- and Damphair will be totally cut.

He pretty much has been. Did he baptize Theon in the book? He's not named in the show.

Your scenario sounds very likely, but still strange without Asha there. I don't think they would start such an event without an established character.

Victarion...

I would not miss him to be honest.

Hope he meets his end soon. Dislike him greatly.



While cool and would love a visual of the mayhem he causes, I really hope he gets devoured by a dragon.

#VictarionOUT

P.S. I like your enthusiasm and love of Victarion.

Why the hate? Shouldn't that be directed at Euron?

Garlan is leading the second largest Reach force to the islands to face off with Euron. If the Tyrells are defeated, Euron will have a clear shot at Highgarden. I can't wait to learn what happens, although I'm bummed there isn't a POV character there to show us everything in TWOW. Well unless the Damphair goes with Euron I guess, which seems unlikely.

Euron can always become a POV.