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Upper Echelon Gamers: Microsoft is TAKING OVER

New Yorks Finest said:
Aweee 👶👶👶 MS recent events got you tight. You sound angry, awee, ...ohh, and Microsoft IS Takin over, you just have to learn and deal with it pretty much till the end of time..that, hatred jelly feeling it'll pass though, I promise ☺

..but listen little Timmy, you best scrap up that $5 hunnit for tomorrow's XsX pre-orders and join us, high five 🤭🤭🤭🤭
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This was a cooked as reply. But it made me laugh.
 
If Bethesda games are exclusive to the Xbox platform, then I'm assuming it will definitely be a nice boost for Microsoft's portfolio, but if they are not then it's probably a waste. Surely Microsoft isn't crazy enough to place their games on a competitors platform after an major acquisition, are they? I know it's probably more money, but they need to keep those games on their platform and even the PC.
 
kevm3 said:
Microsoft as a company has way more cash than Sony, but who is to say how much of that is allowed to be allocated to the gaming division
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They had at least 7k millions, that's for sure LMAO.

Also, all exclusivity deals Sony have with Bethesda will now report income to Microsoft.

Edit: Also, It would probably be much more favorable to Microsoft not focusing on Xbox exclusivity for Bethesda produced games, they should just allow them to sell on other platforms at full price and offer them on XGP, that way they'll also finance part of the service.
 
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I'm looking forward to next week, too much stupid shit going on due to the Bethesda thing.

I get it though, it's been a while since MS had good news and mostly have produced memes.
 
quest said:
Sony has out spent Microsoft most of the generation securing timed exclusives, marketing deals and exclusive content. The only spending Microsoft has done is studios to rebuild the first party and that started in 2018.
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Hmm no. MS did plenty of spending before 2018. It just failed
 
quest said:
Sony has out spent Microsoft most of the generation securing timed exclusives, marketing deals and exclusive content. The only spending Microsoft has done is studios to rebuild the first party and that started in 2018.
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So mojang and minecraft for $2.5billion was a dream I had in 2014.
 
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quest said:
In normal circumstances you might be right but what else could Microsoft do to excite its base to pre order Tuesday? Sony locked up all the 3rd party deals to be had. They needed something after losing halo and that disaster. Actions have consequences Sony money hatting everything in site leaving Microsoft with no alternatives to save the launch and generation. This news will carry them until they can lock up some small games to get content until the 23 studios crank shit out starting 2022.
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Come on man. How long do you think that they have been negotiating this?

You are looking at this through the eyes of a forum dweller.
 
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Lol Fanboys now celebrate buying studios and having the most cash as successful.

Now Someones gotta buy Bethesda's game for them to carry on and its not gonna be Xbox Gamepass owners
 
This is such a stupid argument and discussion.

Microsoft has deeper pockets. That's no news. They always had more cash than SONY. The only thing changed with this acquisition is that Microsoft for the first time has a line up of first-party studios that in theory can produce enough material that can be released during the coming console generation.

But here is the thing: SONY had this for over 10 years now. SONY is doing exactly what Microsoft is trying to copy! They have world-class first-party studios. They have world-class IP´s. And they have the talent to create fantastic new IP´s.

Microsoft is the one who needs to do the catch-up. Not the other way around! SONY knows it´s strengths. And they are heavily investing in it ( the new still undisclosed Santa Monica studio).


Don´t get me wrong, the deal that Microsoft made is huge! And they definitely stepped their game up with this move. But saying that they are crushing SONY is absolutely ridiculous and borderline insane!

The coming generation will be interesting and a lot closer than the last. That´s for sure. Good times to be a gamer
 
Love me some UEG but even as a fan I thought this one was just going to regurgitate every other news outlet but what this vid made me realize is how tiny Sony is compared to MS. Of course these companies all have their own separate divisions but despite that MS' warchest is definitely real. Fuckers have enough cash on hand to buy 10 more Zenimaxes. That's kind of ridiculous.
 
If finishing last place in every generation is considered crushing it and taking over, then sure, Microsoft are "taking over" and "crushing it".

I like their aggressive approach this time around, it seems focused in the right areas. However, we have to remember that these investments will most likely take 2-3 years to show fruits of labour. Still, I like the pressure they're putting on Sony - it can only be good for gamers everywhere.
 
I think it can go one of two ways, depending of the sales of there new consoles. if they level the playing field with Sony, in sales, i can see them making Bethesda's games exclusive. If the sales stay the same as this generation I think they will keep releasing on multiple systems, so they can recoup some of the cost from the acquisition.

Microsoft may have deep pockets, but I'm not sure they would throw that much money around, just to stick it to Sony :)
 
shubik said:
This is such a stupid argument and discussion.

Microsoft has deeper pockets. That's no news. They always had more cash than SONY. The only thing changed with this acquisition is that Microsoft for the first time has a line up of first-party studios that in theory can produce enough material that can be released during the coming console generation.

But here is the thing: SONY had this for over 10 years now. SONY is doing exactly what Microsoft is trying to copy! They have world-class first-party studios. They have world-class IP´s. And they have the talent to create fantastic new IP´s.

Microsoft is the one who needs to do the catch-up. Not the other way around! SONY knows it´s strengths. And they are heavily investing in it ( the new still undisclosed Santa Monica studio).


Don´t get me wrong, the deal that Microsoft made is huge! And they definitely stepped their game up with this move. But saying that they are crushing SONY is absolutely ridiculous and borderline insane!

The coming generation will be interesting and a lot closer than the last. That´s for sure. Good times to be a gamer
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Everything you said is right. However Microsoft has Doom, Fallout, TES and other giant IPs now. I'd take that a million times over God of War or TloU
 
The first half of the video I pretty much agreed with. But then he started his childish Xbox fanboy rant of "boo-hoo you took my Spiderman DLC, serves you right!" at which point, I simply couldn't take him seriously any more. And of course, trying to paint an industry takeover by a monopolistic corporation as a good thing is ridiculous. You can't think of content exclusivity as a bad thing and of MS taking over the industry as a positive at the same time. The end result is even worse - one giant corporation is about to become the sole gatekeeper of everything, be it on console or PC, and the barrier of entry to compete will become unsurmountable. Only fanboys advocate for monopolies.
 
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I don't think MS is taking over. In some sense, this is a concession. They cannot compete in the realm of "Games as a Product". Sony and Nintendo keep putting them in their place, so in true Microsoft fashion they labor to change the market itself. This is why we have been hearing "digital is the future" and "subscriptions are the future" for years now. It's PR.

Microsoft is pulling the nuclear option, devaluation of the market. If they aim to buy more studios, this is especially important. Devalue the average game so that you engage in a price war instead of a quality war with your competitors. Make it impossible to turn a buck unless you join a subscription. Devalue the average game so that studios have a harder time making money outside of your walled garden, and then welcome them into the subscription at a bargain price (for you). Rinse repeat.

Ya think it was bad for indies now? Just wait. Subscriptions will reap indies like a sickle. The goal is to get people off "Games as a Product" and to condition the market to accept Games as a Service.

Standalone, offline, single player / local MP games are the antithesis to Microsoft's goals. They want a finger on your pulse even when you're playing an "offline solo game.
 
Hado said:
Everything you said is right. However Microsoft has Doom, Fallout, TES and other giant IPs now. I'd take that a million times over God of War or TloU
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I mean in the end this is all personal preference. For me personally, I can confidently say that SONY produces games that I love to play and that fall for me in the category of GOTY.

Betehsda has some really really good IP´s and I love me some Doom and Fallout. But I would trade those every single time for a SONY IP like GoW, TLOU, Uncharted, Horizon, GoT and even Spiderman. Plus all those new IP´s that will come with the next gen.

Microsoft has a very good lineup now and I think that the value of the Game pass is insane. But that is not enouh for me to beat SONY´s first party line up.
 
This company's dick is bigger than this other company's dick.
Yes well, when it comes to a war of fucking you over, the bigger dick will fuck you the hardest.


I'm not even sure of what the point of this shit is with this video. What are they trying to say? That Microsoft can just use their cash to outmuscle Sony. So what? Sony should just stop competing?
 
While his "you asked for this ponies!" take is a bit silly, there's also some truth in that. With Spider-Man exclusive for Avengers, all the (timed) exclusives and exclusive content Sony fanboys have been laughing at Xbox: "Exclusives matter!" "It's just business!" "Sony owns Spider-Man!". All that suddenly doesn't matter anymore when Xbox gets exclusives they want (and actually owns the devs and IP).

Yeah, it sucks for PS only gamers, I get it, but at least with MS you can play on PC and xCloud if you really don't want an Xbox. With Sony all other platforms are left in the dust.

Chances are established IP are still going to be multiplatform anyway. Remember, MS isn't fighting Sony, but Google and Amazon. This is all for GamePass.
 
I hope we won't end up with yet another illustration of "company dominant in one market, should not be able to leverage that to punch competitors in another".

E.g. Kindle vs Sony Reader.
 
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Leyasu said:
Come on man. How long do you think that they have been negotiating this?

You are looking at this through the eyes of a forum dweller.
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I'm sure it's been a while but the halo disaster got Microsoft to up the offer to close the deal. It's like anly other deal something can push a side to make a push to close the deal asap. If halo was killer this deal would of not closed now or so high. Microsoft was between a rock and a hard place. Zenimax had the leverage after halo being moved and they used it to squeeze Microsoft for more money and a quick close.
 
I'm just thankful they did something, anything!

After Halo, I they were forced to make a move as they were looking a little foolish to be honest. I was and still am expecting great things from SeriesX with it's beefy specs but this acquisition doesn't show me they are able to put out great games on their system, just shows they are willing to spend some cash to hide that fact they have a lacklustre showing so far.
 
How are people still not tired of bethesdas fallout and tes is beyond me.

Either way, it is still not sure they'll make those games 100% exclusive.
 
Taking over? LoL. At least Microsoft is willing to put games on other platforms, unlike certain blue creature...Oh, know I cannot play games! I can buy a game for 70$ but cannot pay 15$ for 100+ games...

It would be hilarious if Sony buys some other studio and lock its games only in PS platform. We will have a lot of people clapping loudly to that move.
 
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*sratches head* Why am I seeing people claim wrongly that the xbox 360 finished last place? I remember 2006-2007 it sold like hot cakes and then Gears of War released out of no where, then Skyrim, fallout, ect and the 360 actually dominated that generation in sales.

Xbox 360 won that generation so why do I see other's insinuating otherwise?

Gears of War was the clincher, the competition had nothing compared to it and it dominated publications across the industry.
 
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moom! Moooom!? make me a grilled cheese And bring to My room! ..huh?? The basement rec room is my room mom! ... what?? I'm only 35 and a half! Mom bring it now!!


okay where was I? oh yeah /typing " How Dare Microsoft ....."
 
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*sratches head* Why am I seeing people claim wrongly that the xbox 360 finished last place? I remember 2006-2007 it sold like hot cakes and then Gears of War released out of no where, then Skyrim, fallout, ect and the 360 actually dominated that generation in sales.

Xbox 360 won that generation so why do I see other's insinuating otherwise?

Gears of War was the clincher, the competition had nothing compared to it and it dominated publications across the industry.
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Because in the end it got outsold by both it's competitors?
 
Why do people take Youtubers seriously? We're all on the internet, and the only difference between the average poster on here and them is they package their witterings to some degree or other. Its sure as shit not because they are better informed in most cases.
 
LordCBH said:
Because in the end it got outsold by both it's competitors?
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Winning an entire generation as it did during the 360 era is nothing to scoff at, particularly considering no one saw it coming - like, no one predicted Microsoft would actually steal a generation away from Sony and Nintendo and they actually didddddd. Biggest upset in console gaming history.

And a big deal even now - they've won a generation before; and they did it with a nearly stealth unveiling of Gears of War which rattled the industry as no one had ever seen anything like it before - can't put it past them that they wont do something like that again.
 
kevm3 said:
Microsoft as a company has way more cash than Sony, but who is to say how much of that is allowed to be allocated to the gaming division
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Microsoft is about 15 times the size of Sony. That doesn't mean they just have cash lying around for studio acquisitions though.
 
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Actually, here's what I remember about 360 vs PS3 - neither had many games but suddenly Oblivion by Bethesda was released - Oblivion did not work correctly on PS3 for 3 years (and arguably didn't work after Bethesda "fixed" it) and this cut into sells of the PS3 for Xbox - 360 Oblivion worked flawlessly.

Xbox 360 launched COD:MW and it's MP component was amazing on the 360 - Sony took years to catch up in this Arena too.

Gears of War launched and it tore into the competitors markets due to lack of first party titles of the same caliber and dominated the scene. Gears of War on Xbox 360 Made PC gamers Furious/Ate them alive with Jealousy. Sony fan's weren't much different and some rather vocal.

Finally Fallout launched and worked on both consoles, Oblivion.... finally got fixed kinda (but not really) on PS3 but Skyrim launched shortly after anyways and everyone forgot that Oblivion was a total wreck on PS3. Skyrim Worked Flawlessly on both systems - Skyrim on PS3 was notable as it actually helped Sony sales quiet allot, but Sony still was unable to catch up to Microsofts lead.

Then the 360 Dominated that generation with it's own first party titles, an Oblivion that actually worked, Fallout, Skyrim and more Gears were released.

PS3 struggled to launch with games that captivated anyone until the end of it's launch cycle and lost an entire generation to Microsoft.

No one took Wii or Wii U seriously after initial sales and they were traded-in.

Microsoft walked away winning the 360/PS3 era due to an almost non existent stellar PS3 games lineup where Sony relied entirely on Square, Konami and uncharted/Gran Turismo which were not system sellers and it's 3rd party reliance lost Sony an entire generation. MGS3 still sold well, not well enough to defeat the x360.


PS3 finally launched system selling games at the end of the consoles lifespan but most loyal to Sony had already decided to hold out for PS4.
 
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What is Strategy from Michael Porter in the 1991 release of HBR, take a read so you can see how businesses actually work and not just how you perceive them to be: https://hbr.org/1996/11/what-is-strategy - Businesses do not have infinite resources, they are limited in what their scope is, even M$. Im also not sure if you aware, but last generation Xbox got their butt whooped. Sony beat them, Nintendo beat them, other companies you've never even heard of probably beat them too. Now that M$ finally has their head out of their own rear people are singing their praises? No, they should've made this change long ago, when ignorance starts losing you money, businesses are forced to change.
 
Nhranaghacon said:
Actually, here's what I remember about 360 vs PS3 - neither had many games but suddenly Oblivion by Bethesda was released - Oblivion did not work correctly on PS3 for 3 years (and arguably didn't work after Bethesda "fixed" it) and this cut into sells of the PS3 for Xbox - 360 Oblivion worked flawlessly.
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PS3 Oblivion came out a year later and was surprisingly a really good port with solid improvements over the original (notably in draw distance). Skyrim was the one that was (and still is) hopelessly broken
 
Clear said:
No it didn't. PS3 and Wii both outsold it worldwide. Its historical fact.
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Wrong. Lies, and wrong again. But keep peddling the faith I guess - I was there, I saw the news, I saw the numbers first hand despite your lies and petty attempt to create fallacy.

Xbox 360 dominated in sales throughout it's entire run, PS3 struggled in sales.

It had shoddy Call of Duty online Multiplayer Support which hurt PS3 even more and in fact for 2 years had a non existent MP component that hurt the entire PS3 Userbase. Mass upheaval over it's shoddy first party games and playerbase that was very vocal about it's shortcomings. PS3 notably had a 3 year wait period to play MGS4 which was considered literally the only system seller aside from FFantasy. Kratos/Souls were not the system sellers needed nor did they help Sony take the crown away from Microsoft - and they did not help it gain sales over 360.

Oblivion by Bethesda hurt PS3 sales figures greatly and it was notable in western markets as no one wanted to play a broken game at 15 FPS and most purchasers (Soccer moms - who were smart enough to know that games like Oblivion was what purchasing a console was about during that gen - and the broken unplayable mess called Oblivion on the PS3 meant the 360 was in fact the correct choice and this helped Microsoft tremendously).

So with the support of Sony fanyboys alone PS3 completely struggled right up to the very end of the generation with it's last big Hurrah being that game from naughty dog - and it was still handedly trounced in sales by Xbox 360.

Wii outsold both consoles like crazy based on novelty, a novelty that wore off 4 years in with first buyers - particularly considering the only games being purchased for the Wii were Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mariokart and a handful of novelty/gimmick games and it quickly found itself in the same position as Sony - but instead of being the PS3, a console that struggled - the Wii was a console that outsold both for 4 years then died swiftly arguably years before the 360 ceased console sales and with not nearly as many great games as 360.

Any "gamer" saying otherwise should reconsider their merits.
 
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