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US Solar Market Adds 2 Gigawatts of PV in Q1 2017
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Escape Goat
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Look on the bright side. And put some solar panels on it.
Electric Eye
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No matter how hard the ignorant right tries to turn back the clock progress will always win.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I know...wind is the true path.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Fantastic. Get fucked republicans.
AstroNut325
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I'm not really seeing costs coming down for residential installs. :/
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Says it in the report. The largest market, California, is expecting a year-over-year decline in the coming decade. The costs aren't coming down. A decent install still costs $15-25K.
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Says it in the report. The largest market, California, is expecting a year-over-year decline in the coming decade. The costs aren't coming down. A decent install still costs $15-25K.
Combination of different greener energy production methods + creating more energy efficient tech (& improving solar, wind, water etc. energy tech) + putting some effort into trying to get people to spend less energy is the ultimate answer.
PdotMichael
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It's always cute to see people claiming that reneweable energy can't never replace conventional energy sources while in reality reneweable energy get added at a pace which the nuclear lobby can only dream about.
milanbaros
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It looks like the 21st century could be solar powered.
What sort of infrastructure change is needed to cope with the varying generation of solar power?
In the U.K. There is a very successful damn pump storage which pumps water up when power is cheap. Would this work?
What sort of infrastructure change is needed to cope with the varying generation of solar power?
In the U.K. There is a very successful damn pump storage which pumps water up when power is cheap. Would this work?
ShadowSwordmaster
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I was joking about that.
Thelonelykoopa
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Thats great but when 1000 years of darkness come you wont have any power while I can burn coal for light.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Probably massive batteries
PdotMichael
Banned
Either accumulators or gas storage.
Pumped storage is popular because it's highly efficient and high capacity but geography limits how much of it can be built easily...
In hotter countries like the US you can build salt boiling solar plants, those store so much heat they keep producing power through the night.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not fast enough.
Luck has nothing to do with it. It will be reality, whether the fossil giants are willing to admit it or not.
PdotMichael
Banned
Faster than anyone else.
That's the advantage of being able to put solar panals on everything in form of small scale installations like on own homes or large scale installations pretty fast and simple, while building a single nuclear power plant easily takes over a decade and needs an incredible amount of subsidies.
A few of us do
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
PdotMichael
Banned
I did.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
that's great but we are killing our sun this way robbing its energy
TemplaerDude
Member
Better tax it.
PdotMichael
Banned
Rather pointless because renewable energy itself renders traditional base load power plants obsolete. Renewable energy leads to decentralizing the production of energy, there is no point for such inflexible power plants anymore.
Escape Goat
Member
They do so because they're paid to by lobbyists. It's only a matter of time before the industry can't afford these cronies or to buy politicians.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
VA has the world's largest water storage battery.
I priced it out and for my already green home it would take 10 years to pay off. That's still too long for me. 2200sqft house new AC radiant barrier and extra insulation.
I don't really understand people doing it unless it's to just be environmentally friendly. Where I live we use 100% green energy anyways so that's not an issue (it's in my cities energy contract).
I continue to get pricing updates and it's still 8-10 years best case.
goldenpp72
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I don't really see how people assume solar will take off for the normal population unless subsidized greatly, no one likes up front cost even if the monthly long term is higher, it's kind of how the majority of US populations operates as is. People living check to check aren't interested in it, but maybe someday.
Well, the U.S. uses 4000 TW per year. So, not that much. Not to mention this is capacity, not actual generation. It's almost like people just want to take any number they see as a good thing without looking at the bigger picture.
LizardKing
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Wind/solar/water are all just stopgaps to the true answer of nuclear fusion. And as a nature lover it's a good thing too because they are all extremely inefficient as far as a land use per amount of energy produced.
Disgusting.
Shameful.
Sad.
(But still better than coal)
Escape Goat
Member
Wind/solar/water are all just stopgaps to the true answer of nuclear fusion. And as a nature lover it's a good thing too because they are all extremely inefficient as far as a land use per amount of energy produced.
Disgusting.
We have so much land in America we can afford some wind turbines.
So, let's just be clear. Solar is expected to grow 12 GW this year, but let's give it the benefit of the doubt and say that over the next ten years we expect it to grow an average of 20 GWs. This is capacity not actual production, but let's say it's production just to give a bone. A single nuclear power plant will take about ten years to make. A single nuclear power plant produces 11 TWHs of energy, not capacity per year. So... in ten years of growth better than this years we'll have replaced... 200 GWs. Not to mention that several nuclear power plants can be built in tandem.
This is not good news. This is using a bucket the size of a thimble to bail a boat filling with water.
This is not good news. This is using a bucket the size of a thimble to bail a boat filling with water.
LizardKing
Member
Well that would be the opposite of a conservationist's mindset. That's the type of toxic thinking that has squandered our planet's resources for centuries. Hey we have so much atmosphere we can afford some coal plants. Do you realize the havoc the dams in the PNW has played with the Salmon populations compared to natural levels? How much that has disrupted the food chain? And just how much land we are talking about here with wind turbines? So long as at least you don't have to see it right? And it's not in your backyard (but it would be if it were truly widespread).
Wind/solar/water are all just stopgaps to the true answer of nuclear fusion. And as a nature lover it's a good thing too because they are all extremely inefficient as far as a land use per amount of energy produced.
Shameful.
Some Quebec reservoirs are full of fish!
They cut the trees because they create pollution if you leave them there when you flood the area.
R10Neymarfan
Member
But clean coal will win eventually. The guys at coal country even said the day after the election everything is right again
Of course
Of course
LizardKing
Member
And? Do you not recognize this as habitat destruction for some reason? To take away natural riparian habitat and replace it with a reservoir isn't close to "making up" for it even if some fish live there also. They aren't the same thing. You are changing the ecosystem. Not to mention the disruption of creatures that depend on the free flow of the river.
But we're not talking about dams. We're talking about turbines. And yes, nuclear power is cool, but if more people get onto solar/turbine, more power to them. It's an order of magnitude better than coal/gas.
kaname-san
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Wind turbines are cool. They make those long stretches of desert look interesting.
Escape Goat
Member
I'm just responding to your point about it being an inefficient use of land. Not sure what coal has to do with it. This is why we have environmental impact studies.
jchap
Member
I want to see some microwave beamed space based solar power gathering. Set them up to shade my house in the summer.
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