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Using only Goku and Vegeta, it is possible to effectively revive the Saiyan species

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Toad.T

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One of the coolest and most depressing aspects of Dragonball Z for me as a kid was evident the second it started, and that is that this awesome Saiyan species that's introduced with their monkey tails, giant ape transformations, and bad tempers was nearly completely wiped out off-screen in a backstory. Over. Finished. There's no Saiyan females left. Once Raditz and Nappa go kaputz it's just Goku and Vegeta left; destined to fuck sub-standard human pussy and dilute their Saiyan ancestry further as the generations pass, relegating the once-proud Saiyan race into the dustbin of statistical noise.

Or is it? If Goku and Vegeta had just been of the opposite sex they could've acted as an Adam & Eve and repopulated the species once more. But they're not, so that option is out, right? Actually no, because Saiyans can mate with human females it is possible to effectively revive the species with hopefully minimal inbreeding.

Goku + Chi Chi = 50% Saiyan daughter

Vegeta + 50% Saiyan female = 75% Saiyan daughter

Goku + 75% Saiyan female = 87.5% Saiyan daughter

Vegeta + 87.5% Saiyan female = 93.75% Saiyan daughter

Goku + 93.75% Saiyan female = 96.875% Saiyan offspring

At nearly 97% Saiyan this is a good stopping point. Bruce Lee was only 75% Chinese but put him next to Jackie Chan and I doubt you could tell the difference. Besides Saiyans might stay in their prime a lot longer but I don't think Goku or Vegeta would have it in them to last one more generation. Goku and this last 93.75% Saiyan female could then spend a decade having a dozen or more 96.875% Saiyan children (and hey, there's always the hope for twins or better), enough to put onto planet New Vegeta and propagate the Saiyan species back into existence.

Of course this assumes you don't want to just go the easy route and wish the Saiyans back using the Dragonballs (the Nameks were wished back, so it's doable). But hey, there's no fun in making that post.

But you also have to factor in Oolong and Puar. They can achieve human form for varying amounts of time (Oolong is 5 minutes, Puar is seemingly endless). Who's to say that they don't copy the entirety of human body structure as well? Meaning that technically, Goku/Vegeta could in fact fuck either of those two and produce biological Saiyan descendants. Considering their transformation skills as well, you could also get Saiyans with the ability to morph for various periods of time. There are of course other factors as well. For example, why not wish that Goku/Vegeta were hermaphrodites and therefore able to increase possible partners. Or if you don't want to go into the lewd direction, you could wish for them to become cloned, therefore increasing the population as well. Of course, we aren't entirely sure if Shenron has the ability to create life from nothing, if he did however, (Or Porunga or any other Dragon) you could in theory wish for their to exist, let's say 1,000,000,000 female Sayians, therefore creating a eventual utopia and as such, repopulating their race. Of course, pregnancy would be an issue, considering that only two people are allowed in the hyperbolic time chamber at once. You could in theory just send them in their for only a portion of their trimester, but it would just result in a disorderly mess. As well, did you factor in the alternate dimensions Birus alluded to in Battle of Gods? For all we know, there may be multiple versions of the same Saiyan species around the multiverse, just waiting for the Dragonballs to be used for interdimensional travel. This opens up a massive amount of theories, but this post is getting ramble-y as it is, so that'll be for another thread.

In short, Dr. Slump is the better series.

(In case you seriously couldn't tell, that whole post is a big old pile of /s.)
 

Grakl

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Sorian

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There are several types of dragon balls- didn't they do this with the Nakemians? Maybe my memory's rusty :p and if you count GT's balls..

I believe they all had the same rule that the person you were reviving had to have been dead less than a year or something.
 

happypup

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As a rule of thumb a population of at least fifty is preferable to avoid serious birth defects arising. Some animals like ball pythons don't seem to have this problem, but generally a population below fifty is considered functionally extinct. For long term sustainability the population needs to be around 500 strong. Biology is a messy business so this is just a rough guideline of course.
 
You have to take their speed into account as well.

The average human male will ejaculate within 2.6 minutes, while premature ejaculators will ejaculate as soon as 10 seconds into penetration. Let's assume that both Vegeta and Goku are premature ejaculators, and increase the speed at which they ejaculate even more so as to take into account their general speed advantage on regular humans, they could probably ejaculate into 22,889 women every second; 1,373,340 women every minute; 82,400,400 women every hour; and 1,977,609,600 in a day.

Within a week, every single female on Earth could be pregnant with the spawn of Vegeta and Goku. That's a lot of diverse genetic starting material that you can then infuse pure Goku & Vegeta Saiyajin DNA into, so as to avoid inbreeding issues that would otherwise arise.
 

Sorian

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You have to take their speed into account as well.

The average human male will ejaculate within 2.6 minutes, while premature ejaculators will ejaculate as soon as 10 seconds into penetration. Let's assume that both Vegeta and Goku are premature ejaculators, and increase the speed at which they ejaculate even more so as to take into account their general speed advantage on regular humans, they could probably ejaculate into 22,889 women every second; 1,373,340 women every minute; 82,400,400 women every hour; and 1,977,609,600 in a day.

Within a week, every single female on Earth could be pregnant with the spawn of Vegeta and Goku.

You didn't take into account refraction period. Get out of here with your quack science.
 

genjiZERO

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As a rule of thumb a population of at least fifty is preferable to avoid serious birth defects arising. Some animals like ball pythons don't seem to have this problem, but generally a population below fifty is considered functionally extinct. For long term sustainability the population needs to be around 500 strong. Biology is a messy business so this is just a rough guideline of course.

Don't bring you magic into this.

Also, crossing over and the law of independent assortment. So any gametes produced are always likely to have a lot of human DNA in them.
 

Emarv

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You're telling me the Prince of all Saiyans is a premature ejaculator? There's a whole lot of fanfic that is furious with you right now.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Even taking that logic in the OP in account, how goddamn old would Goku be once he starts getting it on with Vegeta's daughter who would be born from his daughter? Not to mention the incest.
 
As a rule of thumb a population of at least fifty is preferable to avoid serious birth defects arising. Some animals like ball pythons don't seem to have this problem, but generally a population below fifty is considered functionally extinct. For long term sustainability the population needs to be around 500 strong. Biology is a messy business so this is just a rough guideline of course.

But they could always use the Dragon Balls to wish away any birth defects and keep those problems from arising.
 

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Better yet: Goku wishes himself female.

And maybe becomes a dragon.

A pregnant dragon.
 

Popnbake

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Can the Dragon Balls create life? Could Goku just wish for a female version of himself?

*reads last few thread sentences in the op*

*edit: Nah, I don't think he would go that route.

Just go for several new saiyan girls if he can create life.
 

ModBot

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We really don't need a thread discussing how Goku and Vegata should fuck their grand-daughters. Thanks.
 
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