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Valve announces a new portable, Steam Deck
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GuinGuin
Banned
Can they use direct X? If so how given that it is proprietary to Microsoft? If not then how can it work?
ColdAfternoon
Member
You can dual boot. Acccessing files between the two should also work, but I don't think you'll get much out of it unless games provide binaries for both.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
The $399 model is really appealling in many ways, but I know it won't fulfill all my needs. I hate that we have to choose one to reserve now and commit to that model.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
"Spectacular black eye" for Nintendo is hilarious.
I'm not saying they're not taking the piss with the price of the switch oled, and this isn't a neat device, but, you know how much this will impact switch sales numbers?
I'll spoil it for you: It will have zero impact on switch sales numbers. People buy a switch to play Nintendo games.
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Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
But this can play Nintendo games. It might even play Switch games full speed.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So God of War and Breath of the Wild shouldn't be exclusive to their own consoles?
tommib
Banned
Irrelevant. Casual consumers won't go anywhere near the hoops and loops needed to run emulators they have to set up and download roms to.
Wake me up when the portable steam machine is running Metroid: Dread at 60fps without fucked up textures.
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Fess
Member
It's kinda annoying, I just don't want to miss out on portable Gamepass and Play Anywhere but it feels like things will get janky to get there. Microsoft should just put Linux versions and Gamepass on Steam, I'm still giving them subscription money and get my activities tracked, should be enough.
do i want to click into the comments ? probably not but lets see what the valve fanboys are saying..
it's not too bad surprisingly
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ReBurn
Gold Member
If someone gets this to play Switch games then they're paying at least $50 more than they need to.
Nowhere in my comment did I talk about sales numbers, but thank you for the spoiler. No one is expecting this to sell anything even close to the SWITCH. That isn't the point. This makes NINTENDO look bad in the same way something like Monster Hunter Stories or Temtem makes NINTENDO look bad: it shows an incredible lack of tech innovation and interest in giving consumers actual value.
. . .honestly didn't think that needed to be spelled out.
Soccer mom buys this for her kid because you tell her that. Also buys Mario and Pokemon. Then comes back a few days later and yells at you because she can't even put the carts into the machine, much less run the games.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Then I dump the Switch games with my OG Switch and get it running for her?
Think that strategy will work for a store? That's what I implied by "comes back a few days later" and "buys carts" though I should've made that more clear.
Here at BEST BUY we no longer sell the Switch because it's trash! We'll have GEEK SQUAD install emulators on your Steamdeck so it can run Nintendo games.
"Then why not just buy a Switch?"
Because we hate that underpowered piece of crap and we hope Nintendo goes out of business!
.... it's a bold strategy, but I don't know if it'll work.
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Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I think people can be happy with the Steam library as a replacement for the Nintendo eShop, but that's just me. The Deck is way cooler than a Switch.
ClanOfNone
Member
Pre-sales go live at 10? The premise of boi Repentance runs while vegging out to old Simpsons is too much to resist.
Sentenza
Member
In a n ideal world? no, they shouldn't.
Nothing "should be exclusive" for the sake of it and everything should release on any platform that's both commercially viable and powerful enough to handle the given title.
Incidentally, God Of War is going to be on PC soon, if rumors are to be believed, and BotW had its best version in the CEMU emulator for a while, so everything's peachy. More or less.
If there's any chance you'll want to install Windows on it, go with the 256 model.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
This still doesn't make them look bad in the least, and it's in no way competing with Nintendo. Nintendo pioneered this very form factor and docking as their premier product. They innovate in some ways, but never in raw horsepower. And they're never great value, which is annoying.
This is a cool system and I'll likely get one, but it's a tinkerer system.
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onnextflix5
Banned
What a ugly monster lol, make everything ugly and uncomfortable so they can add touch pads lol. Looks as bad as those cheap and nasty handhelds from china lol
Fess
Member
Yeah without exclusives we wouldn't have to install Windows just to play Gamepass games, install Epic Games Store to play EGS exclusives, wouldn't have to buy three consoles for the living room, subscribe to three streaming and online services.
The hobby is broken, more or less.
mcjmetroid
Member
I love the idea of this device and I think Valve are serious with this and also pricing wise.. it's very good.
There is one advantage though that the Switch OLED will have over this and it's space.
Yes both have 68 gigs but games are optimised and compressed like crazy for the Switch so it can fit on that game card or so people can play it without needing external storage... For the most part. You're rarely gonna get Switch games over 68g.
However PC games just aren't compressed at all, annoyingly so.
You're really gonna an SD card faster on Steam Deck faster than Switch.
You never know though, if something like this really and I mean really catches fire. Then pc developers could focus more attention on compression their games. Long shot though lol.
There is one advantage though that the Switch OLED will have over this and it's space.
Yes both have 68 gigs but games are optimised and compressed like crazy for the Switch so it can fit on that game card or so people can play it without needing external storage... For the most part. You're rarely gonna get Switch games over 68g.
However PC games just aren't compressed at all, annoyingly so.
You're really gonna an SD card faster on Steam Deck faster than Switch.
You never know though, if something like this really and I mean really catches fire. Then pc developers could focus more attention on compression their games. Long shot though lol.
A.Romero
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Dr Kaneda
Member
Do Valves hardware products usually drop in price 6-12 months down the line? Also talking about the 2nd hand market here.
This looks incredible but I'm not sure if I should pick it up straight away or wait 6-12 months to a year to get a better impression of how it runs and also get it cheaper.
Also another thing I hate about modern gaming hardware is how you now have to keep worrying about a company releasing an "updated" model and made your purchased hardware inferior in ~2 years. At least in days gone by if you bought a piece of gaming hardware you knew that was it until the next generation in 5 6 or 7 years time.
This looks incredible but I'm not sure if I should pick it up straight away or wait 6-12 months to a year to get a better impression of how it runs and also get it cheaper.
Also another thing I hate about modern gaming hardware is how you now have to keep worrying about a company releasing an "updated" model and made your purchased hardware inferior in ~2 years. At least in days gone by if you bought a piece of gaming hardware you knew that was it until the next generation in 5 6 or 7 years time.
mcjmetroid
Member
It's not just about " playing on a bus" or whatever. I would be interested in this simply as a portable travel device..like a console I can bring with me when I go foreign or when I travel to a hotel etc which I do quite often.
Because it can easily have a dock connected as well it makes for a perfect multiplayer travelling console...
The emulation scene should be amazing for this as well!
I say don't underestimate the power of a handheld.
HF2014
Member
Na. If i can leave Windows out of it, i will. Im more wondering about the power consumtion of both ssd, is eMMC better for that?
PhoenixTank
Member
DirectX calls get translated to equivalent Vulkan calls. Win32 calls get handled by Wine. This is all bundled together in Proton. Simplified, but that is how it works.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I want the glass screen on the 512GB model more than I want the better storage. Too bad 256GB model doesn't have it. I'd feel selfish getting the top model since you can almost buy 2 base models for that price.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Looks sweet. I'm not into handheld gaming so Id pass. The top model is $819 CDN! Add tax and youre breaking $900+. Yikes.
But the power/performance for an 800p screen is suppose to be solid given it's supposed to be about a 2 TF system.
Should be 60 fps gaming right? Since the systems is promoted as a PC, sounds like the frame rate should be unlocked too like PC gaming is, unless the game studios want to mess with Steam Deck versions capping frames at 30 or 60???
But the power/performance for an 800p screen is suppose to be solid given it's supposed to be about a 2 TF system.
Should be 60 fps gaming right? Since the systems is promoted as a PC, sounds like the frame rate should be unlocked too like PC gaming is, unless the game studios want to mess with Steam Deck versions capping frames at 30 or 60???
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Fess
Member
I want that too but can't that be fixed with a anti-glare screen protector?
As much as I don't like Tencent/Epic, that's not really a tough question. He could easily respond "sure, it's fair for them to charge 30% for all Steamdeck exclusive games"
FranXico
Member
Yes it's a handheld form factor PC
CloudNull
Banned
I just realized this thing would have been a godsend pack in the old days. I would not have had to strap in my massive rig in the back of my car to go to a lan party. I could literally just take this, a dock, my peripherals while using a buddies monitor. Damn zoomers have it to easy these days lol.
Twinguistics
Member
Wake me up when Metroid Dread looks like a decent game that is any different to hundreds of indie metroidvanias already available at a fraction of the price.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
You made a moronic shitpost. I responded. Cope.
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Fess
Member
BDE - Big Deck Energy
jufonuk
not tag worthy
If the battery can last that long, then yes.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Almost reservation time in my neck of the woods.
CloudNull
Banned
I am patiently waiting with my other computer set on the reserve link.
Also it has been confirmed that you can access the epic store on it.....I know its been stated this is a laptop but it still hurts my brain to think that way. I look at it and see a console.
Valve’s Steam Deck Will Let You Shop On Epic Games Store - Kotaku
Unlike Nintendo's Switch, you won't need to jailbreak Valve’s portable
kotaku.com
Twinguistics
Member
6pm for me, so an hour. Gonna bag the middle spec. It's cheaper than I expected as I was used to seeing the number in dollars lol.
No reason not to reserve. You get your money back if you don't end up buying anyway.
No reason not to reserve. You get your money back if you don't end up buying anyway.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
One other way this shits all over the Switch - you'll be able to pair wireless bluetooth headphones with this bad boy when it's not docked.
What a stupid fuckin' decision that was on Nintendo's part.
What a stupid fuckin' decision that was on Nintendo's part.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Thoughts and prayers for steams servers and all of us trying to reserve one today. Good luck.