Flying_Phoenix said:
I'm playing it without patches now. Outside of Left and Right speakers being vice versa and the logo intro screen not showing up its been fine.
Not as bad as say Fallout: New Vegas.
No offense, I just don't know how people can read through
this changelog, and make it even past the first non-plus / basic patch change:
All illogical spawning and respawning is removed on several levels.
And decide they want to play the game without the basic UOP patch, having more of the annoying combat everyone hates (people have quit the game because they can't deal with the combat), even where it makes no sense to have it. I generally enjoyed the combat in Bloodlines, but I wouldn't choose to have it happening (especially respawning) in places where it was annoying. *insert entire game joke
And misc. combat doesn't even get you XP in this game, so there's almost no point to it (some people just enable god mode or bypass combat entirely). Not to mention the 100s of other fixes, stuff like:
Repaired clipping, look-through and other issues of various models.
Added missing sounds for weapons, stat events, background and more.
Swapped wrong manhole covers for Griffith Park and Giovanni mansion.
Provided twenty places for Malkavian voice whispers during dialogue.
Corrected Mercurio sending wrong timed emails and fixed email order.
Repaired VV and Jeanette sending you their emails at the wrong time.
Why have clipping errors, missing sounds, wrong artwork, timed events not playing out correctly, etc? I realize people aren't going to be able to catch most of this stuff without it being pointed out to them, but it's so simple to fix it all now. Unless you intend on replaying it again I guess. I understand wanting to play the "intended version" and all, but it's not like the game was ever released in a proper state to begin with, and the non-plus patch doesn't introduce the drastic changes to the gameplay, it focuses on mostly fixes.
At least you're playing and enjoying the game, so I can't fault you too much!

As it has been said, it's a phenomenal game even without the fan patches, same is true many other games like STALKER, Torment, Fallout and so on, but they're improved (in some cases drastically) with them.