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what's the difference between vancouver and toronto?

I think I am uniquely qualified to give some observations as I moved from Toronto 2 weeks ago to Vancouver.

In Toronto I wear a collared dress shirt and semi dressy pants (polos) every day to work and I have 10 or so ties I rotate. That made me a normal business casual guy at work ... Maybe even a little underdressed where I lived in the core.

In Vancouver this makes me extremely overdressed compared to what I see on the Skytrain every morning commuting to work. At my workplace everyone dresses really casually ... It's really foreign to me and a little strange given that we are employment case managers ... In Toronto up until 2010 I had to suit up daily to be an example for our clients, it was only a couple years ago they allowed business casual. In Vancouver on the other hand I was actually told on my second day by my manager I didn't have to wear a tie if I didn't want to although she made a big point of saying she thought I looked great and I was welcome to continue with my ties if I liked. It's a good thing too as I had limited luggage space and packed mainly what I thought were going to be appropriate work cloths. I literally have nothing casual. Another day I decided to wear a vest over my dress shirt and tie I had people asking me what the occasion was. Wtf the occasion was work lol.

Anyways I don't consider myself an amazing looking guy or anything but I've definitely noticed check outs happening on my commutes, albeit side glances, it's not as obvious as women are in Toronto. I'm attributing it entirely to my work attire. In terms of work clothes people just don't seem to care as much here as they do back out east (both men and women), BUT wearing a collar/tie or really just what I consider normal business casual out east, is netting me check outs. It's bizarre, back home my outfits would just be considered normal work cloths but here it's like I've gone to a huge effort or something. I'm happily married but I honestly believe it would be easy to link here, I've already had multiple signals from strangers that I'm sure I could easily chat up if I was single.

Maybe here people aren't forward enough? I'd heard that west coast folks are more reserved socially but in my experience so far I actually find people out here to be far more friendly at least at the surface level than back home ... Super easy to approach ... I'm also finding it way more easy to engage folks in conversation here ... Especially the women. And that includes random strangers as well as acquaintances. Honestly it feels like people are at first a little surprised, but WANT to talk whenever I engage in random strangers in conversations. Like maybe that sort of thing doesn't commonly happen or something.
 
I'd heard that west coast folks are more reserved socially but in my experience so far I actually find people out here to be far more friendly at least at the surface level than back home ..

Maybe that's referring to the 'Vancouver Freeze,' if that's an actual thing- easy to establish friendships, difficult to maintain them. Hell if I know, the people I know from Vancouver are consistently nice, and for that matter I've never known any of the women in that category to be particularly stuck-up.

All I can definitively say is that I find this topic completely amusing, from fashion tips to a look into the larger picture of vancouvers social habits. I mean, I'm from Surrey, so all I worry about is being shot or being set on fire.
 
What's wrong with a person being picky? Seems like a more intelligent way to date someone.

Reducing relationships down to a checklist of things you want at the time. Assuming happiness and compatibility can be achieved by someone meeting the criteria of the list you made. That's what's wrong.
 
I think I am uniquely qualified to give some observations as I moved from Toronto 2 weeks ago to Vancouver.

In Toronto I wear a collared dress shirt and semi dressy pants (polos) every day to work and I have 10 or so ties I rotate. That made me a normal business casual guy at work ... Maybe even a little underdressed where I lived in the core.

In Vancouver this makes me extremely overdressed compared to what I see on the Skytrain every morning commuting to work. At my workplace everyone dresses really casually ... It's really foreign to me and a little strange given that we are employment case managers ... In Toronto up until 2010 I had to suit up daily to be an example for our clients, it was only a couple years ago they allowed business casual. In Vancouver on the other hand I was actually told on my second day by my manager I didn't have to wear a tie if I didn't want to although she made a big point of saying she thought I looked great and I was welcome to continue with my ties if I liked. It's a good thing too as I had limited luggage space and packed mainly what I thought were going to be appropriate work cloths. I literally have nothing casual. Another day I decided to wear a vest over my dress shirt and tie I had people asking me what the occasion was. Wtf the occasion was work lol.

Anyways I don't consider myself an amazing looking guy or anything but I've definitely noticed check outs happening on my commutes, albeit side glances, it's not as obvious as women are in Toronto. I'm attributing it entirely to my work attire. In terms of work clothes people just don't seem to care as much here as they do back out east (both men and women), BUT wearing a collar/tie or really just what I consider normal business casual out east, is netting me check outs. It's bizarre, back home my outfits would just be considered normal work cloths but here it's like I've gone to a huge effort or something. I'm happily married but I honestly believe it would be easy to link here, I've already had multiple signals from strangers that I'm sure I could easily chat up if I was single.

Maybe here people aren't forward enough? I'd heard that west coast folks are more reserved socially but in my experience so far I actually find people out here to be far more friendly at least at the surface level than back home ... Super easy to approach ... I'm also finding it way more easy to engage folks in conversation here ... Especially the women. And that includes random strangers as well as acquaintances. Honestly it feels like people are at first a little surprised, but WANT to talk whenever I engage in random strangers in conversations. Like maybe that sort of thing doesn't commonly happen or something.

Totally agree with your observations:

1. Vancouver is totally a "chill out man, wear your yoga pants and unkempt beard or whatever" culture. No high fashion requirement in this city at all. But that can be a good thing. It's comfortable. It's accepting.

2. People in Van are more reserved. This is a place founded on British politeness and compounded by Asian keep-to-one's-self timidity. But no one here is snobby and loves that isolation, it's just habit. As you say, if you are direct, the response is to be intrigued and accepting of it.


All I can definitively say is that I find this topic completely amusing, from fashion tips to a look into the larger picture of vancouvers social habits. I mean, I'm from Surrey, so all I worry about is being shot or being set on fire.

Even this is totally Vancouver.... acting like Surrey is some kind of extreme ghetto. It could only be so to the extremely sheltered and privileged mindset of the rest of Vancouver.

I go to school in Surrey everyday. Doesn't even set off my "I'm in a dangerous place" spider sense, and many many other places in Canada do, let alone other countries. Put Surrey in the midst of many North American cities and it would be the cheery suburbs.
 
I lived for 5 straight years in Van and only had like a single date in that entire time? After 2 months in Winnipeg I was seeing someone already back in 2013. Math checks out lol.
 
Fuck that shit. All I wear are polos from j crew, preferably cotton slub. I'm tall, lean, muscular, and I look damn good in them with my shaved arms, and yes, I shave my arms, legs, and chest. Hair is gross and simian
(10 minutes later...)

tinder has netted me some decent looking women.

the downside? I never follow through with them.

hell, I wish I could live in Vancouver......i hate my life.
"MEN WHO DON'T SHAVE THEIR LEGS ARE GROSS also i can't get a woman and i'm angry about my life"
 
I go to school in Surrey everyday. Doesn't even set off my "I'm in a dangerous place" spider sense, and many many other places in Canada do, let alone other countries. Put Surrey in the midst of many North American cities and it would be the cheery suburbs.

It was mostly in jest, but Surrey *does* has it's fair share of problems. I can agree that it gets overblown, though.
 
For every girl with hair extensions in yoga pants there's a guy with a muscle car and a protein shake. Superficiality exists among both genders.

I wouldn't say Vancouver is any harder to date than any other big city.

As "bad" as it is for some men, I'd rather have that than the constant harassment and unsolicited comments that women have to put up with probably daily. Sure, a girl can get multiple Tinder matches a day while I'm lucky to get one non-bot match a month, but that just exacerbates the problem: men have to "try harder" to get noticed, women get discouraged from all the creeps and overwhelmed by the multitude of men vying for their attention, the good men are overlooked, and no one ends up happy.

The thing is, I have asked a lot of my female friends why they don't make the first move and the reason they don't is not cos men are creepy but honesty because they fear rejection exponentially way more than dudes. I can hit on a girl get rejected by her and forget about her next month, from talking to girls I know if a guy says they have a bf they'll remember dude on their deathbed. A friend of mine lived in Sweden and said he found it hilarious that women from countries where men generally made the first move, US, Italy, Spain etc thought the men were cowards because they were not as proactive in their courting as men from their home countries. I have no idea how true it is, but during the whole street harrassment debate I heard girls who never got hit on complain about that too. But this is going off topic.
 
Since when is there anything wrong with hairly legs!?

Also, if you don't like carpets you have the wrong carpets.
Good carpets are amazing.
 
When I see a pretty girl walking down the street, I think two things. One part wants me to take her out, talk to her, be real nice and sweet and treat her right.
 
Sure.

Manscaping is a thing. I don't personally. But I do trim my chest hair.I also have my shoulders and back.

If you're a cyclist. Shaving your legs can prevent chaffing.

lol, these semi contradict. Trimming is more of a necessity than than shaving though.
 
lol, these semi contradict. Trimming is more of a necessity than than shaving though.

To each his own, though. I don't think it's weird though. The shaved look has been gaining traction.

I'm way to hairy too fully shave. It would also look weird. Patches of hair there, shaved here.
 
To each his own, though. I don't think it's weird though. The shaved look has been gaining traction.

I'm way to hairy too fully shave. It would also look weird. Patches of hair there, shaved here.

You just use those attachments on the philips body groom that doesn't take everything. That's what I use for my legs.
 
Issue with waxing is it doesn't seem to last long enough for the pain you seem to go through.

Easier to just shave using a philips body groom.

I do want to try it though next time I go somewhere tropical where I have my shirt off the entire time. I think me and the girlfriend will be going to somewhere like Hawaii or Puerto Rico for the holidays, so will have it done then.
 
Manscaping is fine to a certain extent, but when you start shaving your chests and legs, that's going too far.
 
I have a nicer condo than Tabris and only pay $500 a month. I wake up with the Andes mountains outside my window every day. With a fine Latin girlfriend to boot.

Everyone look at me.

LOOK AT ME!!!!!

I win at life!?!

Move to South America.
 
Never been to Vancouver but living in Toronto and trying to date is an absolute nightmare.
Girls here are very tough to date. I've already dated 7 girls this year with no luck.

My background:
Own place
Good paying job
Nice car
Athletic
Good looking
Not socially awkward

I think my problem is that I'm too nice of a person and a bit too forward.
Don't really want to play games but I probably don't have a choice at this point. :(
 
Look at you go!
I know thanks! And you don't even have to be loaded or very good looking down here! Just be a foreigner and the girls will flock to you! I don't have much money so they can't be golddigging. And my girlfriend is a doctor so she has more money than me lols.
Never been to Vancouver but living in Toronto and trying to date is an absolute nightmare.
Girls here are very tough to date. I've already dated 7 girls this year with no luck.

My background:
Own place
Good paying job
Nice car
Athletic
Good looking
Not socially awkward

I think my problem is that I'm too nice of a person and a bit too forward.
Don't really want to play games but I probably don't have a choice at this point. :(
Dude you seem to be doing everything right. That sucks. Sad to hear. You would clean up in good ole south america.

But for real maybe it is you being too nice and forward? I don't know. I sucked with women growing up and living in Toronto.
 
Never been to Vancouver but living in Toronto and trying to date is an absolute nightmare.
Girls here are very tough to date. I've already dated 7 girls this year with no luck.

My background:
Own place
Good paying job
Nice car
Athletic
Good looking
Not socially awkward

I think my problem is that I'm too nice of a person and a bit too forward.
Don't really want to play games but I probably don't have a choice at this point. :(

The more you have going for you the harder it is to find someone who is around your same level and compatible even in big cities, makes dating really hard
 
You can find some cheap treatments in Montreal according to my gf and 30 minutes every few weeks doesn't seem a huge commitment. Maybe its different in Vancouver. She quoted me at like 700$ for a years worth (3 areas i think) at one point when I considered it.
 
Never been to Vancouver but living in Toronto and trying to date is an absolute nightmare.
Girls here are very tough to date. I've already dated 7 girls this year with no luck.

My background:
Own place
Good paying job
Nice car
Athletic
Good looking
Not socially awkward

I think my problem is that I'm too nice of a person and a bit too forward.
Don't really want to play games but I probably don't have a choice at this point. :(

I don't think a single relationship has ever ended because one of the persons was "too nice". Ask some people that know you for some honest evaluations. Maybe you're a jerk? You wouldn't know on your own.
 
Vancover men confirmed to be bad at openers? It's dead simple to just read the profile and ask a specific question related to something there. "I see that you mentioned so and so, do you...?". That suggestion "do you like to travel?" is almost rhetorical because most women will mention wishes of travelling in their profiles so it's an easy effective icebreaker. They're sure to respond more than some Tinder level of "hi", "what's up", or "how's it going". If they don't respond even after that, move along!

Now that heightism thing, kind of annoying but then you don't want to be with someone who's so strict about that where a nice personality can't break through.
 
I know thanks! And you don't even have to be loaded or very good looking down here! Just be a foreigner and the girls will flock to you! I don't have much money so they can't be golddigging. And my girlfriend is a doctor so she has more money than me lols.

Dude you seem to be doing everything right. That sucks. Sad to hear. You would clean up in good ole south america.

But for real maybe it is you being too nice and forward? I don't know. I sucked with women growing up and living in Toronto.
Do you have to be a white foreigner though?
 
It might be due to the higher Asian population here, and how Asian men are usually lower on the "dating desirability" scale. But that's a story for another day.
 
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