I never did. I was just hoping for something close to or about on par with the Xbox One and that is what this sounds like. The games will look great. The price should be nice as well.
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Ventura Beat: Nintendo Switch graphics are based on Nvidia's Maxwell Architecture
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I never did. I was just hoping for something close to or about on par with the Xbox One and that is what this sounds like. The games will look great. The price should be nice as well.
What sounds strange to me is the part where the writer describes Nintendo being "in a rush". Doesn't really seems to me. They skipped E3, they're skipping fall season. It's just a guess right now, but switch seems to me a better though out product than 3ds and wii u. It's not like they didn't know that the wii u has been dead for a couple years now, and it supposedly looks like Nintendo really looked at what went wrong with their last console and tried to turn things around.
Only that part? There are so many errors in the article, for example his assertion that Pascal would MELT the Switch, completely absurd since Pascal is in fact generally more efficient than Maxwell. The author did a really bad Job writing that.
The Switch was always going to operate in its own space and not try to compete with Xbox or Playstation. The appeal of the console will be the ability to take games on the go, and the unified pipeline of Nintendo first-party titles. Third-party support was always going to be questionable, but the continued rumors of Nintendo making it "very easy" for third parties to take advantage of the system will hopefully drive more games to the system opposed to devs wanting to use it to showcase a technical prowess. Regardless of Maxwell or Pascal architecture, the console is set up for success as long as the hardware does what it promises, and we aren't forced to a 480p resolution. Given that this very article in question cites performance of 1 TFLOP or higher, I think it will perform admirably.
Sometimes the GAF hype train is too much for its own good and it clouds all reason or judgment. We are under a month to the formal reveal, why not choose to remain cautiously optimistic than doom and gloom, for what in reality, may be a minor factor in an overall successful product?
Sometimes the GAF hype train is too much for its own good and it clouds all reason or judgment. We are under a month to the formal reveal, why not choose to remain cautiously optimistic than doom and gloom, for what in reality, may be a minor factor in an overall successful product?
This really is some sort of false narrative driven by several members here.
If you even remotely followed the Switch threads, literally no sane person was expecting the Switch to match or come close to PS4-level graphics.
The only people I've seen even bringing up the idea are people like yourself.
Your disbelief is well placed. Because nobody was expecting that.
So many strawmen being put up in here.
Astral Dog
Member
GUYS, remember Nvidia spent 500 Man Years on this chip, it wont be a simple Maxwell
TwilightPrincess
Member
Not even all PS4 games are 1080p.
Oppo
Member
they probably are expecting ipad level graphics though, rightly or wrongly.
so if the Switch is noticeably weaker than an ipad on the go, and noticeably weaker than a PS4 at home, the concern would be that it sort of ends up in futon territory; i.e. a sorta crappy couch that converts into an underwhelming bed.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Switch handheld/homeconsole hybrid for 199 $/ with gfx inbetween Wii U and Xbone sounds amazing to me.
Make this thing as cheap as possible, Nintendo.
Make this thing as cheap as possible, Nintendo.
TwilightPrincess
Member
We don't even know if it's 20nm or 16nm, how many cudacores are used. all the crying is baseless.
The Hermit
Member
Its basically the same info we had before , just worded differently. That's seems enough to make people go crazy
MarkMclovin
Member
As soon as I read this
I called bullshit.
What does that even mean? That it can't output any graphics at all even at a slower rate? And the 4K comment is bullshit too as nobody was even expecting that with the type of console it is.
This smells clickbait all over.
I called bullshit.
What does that even mean? That it can't output any graphics at all even at a slower rate? And the 4K comment is bullshit too as nobody was even expecting that with the type of console it is.
This smells clickbait all over.
-Mutsukki-
Member
Yeah it's pretty clear where I should place my bets: not with you
TwilightPrincess
Member
It won't compare bad to an ipad. what great aaa ipad games does even exist? i mean demanding ones. The games for Switch will be built for that hardware. are there games like Breath of the Wild, Dark Souls 3 or Skyrim Special Edition on ipad?
Slurpy2k20
Member
The fact that people here had delusional fantasies (or expectations) of this being competitive visually to the PS4 is hilarious. I could have told you 6-12 months ago that would not happen. It's just not logical in any way whatsoever, especially since this is a MOBILE system, needs to be competitively priced, and made by Nintendo. Why do you people disappoint yourself with these completely off base expectations?
Of course not only that, but the other parts have been discussed a lot in this thread.
The only thing the Switch needs to run well graphically is Nintendo games to be honest. I think the majority of Nintendo fans realize this is not the third party games HD box that you buy.
If it runs Zelda and a new Monster Hunter, Mario, etc. in HD at good frame rates, and is priced fairly, I am in at some point. I don't care what chip or architecture it is running on.
If it runs Zelda and a new Monster Hunter, Mario, etc. in HD at good frame rates, and is priced fairly, I am in at some point. I don't care what chip or architecture it is running on.
RIP battery life.;_;
Skittzo0413
Member
That would mean the 5-8 hours of battery life targeted rumor can't possibly be true. Which I guess is certainly possible.
Inspectah_Deck
Member
Can you at least read the last few posts before commenting?
Jesus, this thread makes me want to quit GAF, it's unbelievable.
Where is the moderation?
? Such smart much wisdom?
People didn't actually think this, the only people talking about this are people like you slamming those fictitious people who supposedly think that. Sure, there are always crazies around, but they are in such a minority that even addressing them so seriously seems strange.
But wouldn't that be true if they upclocked the processors to some extremes even using a die shrink? I mean, we don't know clock speeds so it's quite possible that they're using a 16nm Maxwell setup with extreme clock speeds.
Sadly the 5-8 hours battery rumour came from Nate who said it would use Pascal.
Are we considering Natedrake debunked because of this article? I would first like to know his track record before we put unconditional trust into this guy.
Steve McQueen
Member
Disappointing if true but then again I never expected Pascal to begin with,
dampflokfreund
Banned
Very disappointing if true
Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously I'm trying to understand here): the only difference this makes is how hot will the system get, how much cooling does it need, and how battery efficient will it be. Correct?
I don't understand any of the other reactions on the first page of people who say "I'm out." Whether this is based on Pascal or Maxwell, we know that it is a custom chipset that will be more powerful than the Wii U and allow for easy porting from other modern systems.
Even if it used Pascal, it was never rumored to be as powerful as PS4. All rumors stated that this would be somewhat less powerful than an Xbox One, but still capable of running the same games and supporting the same engines.
So, for people who say they are out, did you actually expect the Pascal architecture to make the hardware capable of playing the same games as PS4 with no downgraded graphics? I'm really trying to understand.
I don't understand any of the other reactions on the first page of people who say "I'm out." Whether this is based on Pascal or Maxwell, we know that it is a custom chipset that will be more powerful than the Wii U and allow for easy porting from other modern systems.
Even if it used Pascal, it was never rumored to be as powerful as PS4. All rumors stated that this would be somewhat less powerful than an Xbox One, but still capable of running the same games and supporting the same engines.
So, for people who say they are out, did you actually expect the Pascal architecture to make the hardware capable of playing the same games as PS4 with no downgraded graphics? I'm really trying to understand.
No, I'm not considering anything debunked yet.
For anyone curious about what kind of performance to expect, this channel gives an idea: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVEXw1cns_GP1lOgya5Sqvg
Note, however, that while the CPU in that laptop is much faster, the memory bandwidth is 40-50% lower than what's rumored for Switch (assuming a 64-bit bus and no embedded cache, as otherwise it's 80% lower). Basically, it's a pretty decent 720p low settings machine for modern games. It's right about where a Vita successor would land.
We can rule out NateDrake as a legitimate source completely, sadly. 1-3 hours of battery life is what to expect as well.
Note, however, that while the CPU in that laptop is much faster, the memory bandwidth is 40-50% lower than what's rumored for Switch (assuming a 64-bit bus and no embedded cache, as otherwise it's 80% lower). Basically, it's a pretty decent 720p low settings machine for modern games. It's right about where a Vita successor would land.
We can rule out NateDrake as a legitimate source completely, sadly. 1-3 hours of battery life is what to expect as well.
dampflokfreund
Banned
I think its because people don't want to spend money on old tech. With Maxwell, the Switch seems like Nvidia just wants to get rid of their old chipsets. With Pascal however, the Switch is cutting edge hardware. It's really easy to understand, people are investing their hard earned money on this, so they want the best possible device they can get.
You are right, and one more thing: the difference between Pascal and Maxwell is generally defined by the die size. It is, however, possible to create a Maxwell with equal die size to Pascal. In that case, the difference is almost zero, and Maxwell would be equally efficient. We don't know if they did that, though.
I think you're looking at this wrong.
What would it take to reach decent battery life on this hardware? Think about that. It's still possible.
Skittzo0413
Member
I like how these posts are back to back haha
Let's not jump to any conclusions. Let's at least wait for NateDrake to hear back from his sources.
Schnozberry
Member
Sub-HD resolutions and downclocks, which the patents seem to indicate being the case.
That looks spectacular for a handheld and just okay for a console. It's not much different from Wii U as a console, really.
If you told me that game was running on a Wii U, I'd believe you.
You're going to be disappointed.
Interfectum
Gold Member
New consoles really bring out the crazy in GAF. Lots of Pro and Switch threads are near unreadable.
Well, we've already heard 3 hours as a max. It could only be more if it runs a lot slower undocked, in which case this will not run any modern games at 720p. I'd put 4 hours as an optimistic max and 2 hours as an optimistic minimum.
Then you're not good at telling the differences between consoles on-sight. Wii U couldn't dream of this.
I guess that kinda shows that, due to diminishing returns, people will still claim that it's on-par with Wii U no matter what.
Yeah by waiting for the Switch XL!
sixteen-bit
Member
Ventura Beat makes me think of Jim Carrey
LordOcidax
Member
First... The leak is a pure contradictory garbage and probably fake.. and even if the Switch uses Maxwell is a not GC to Wii in term of upgrade at all...This thing can match the Xbox One in terms of Graphics.