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(Verge) Next Xbox will take over TV, interact with cable box
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goldenpp72
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Seems a bit pointless, but it's an extra feature so who cares?
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
Right cause HBO Go, YouTube, Amazon Prime, Xbox Video, ESPN3, etc aren't already a major part of this design. Most consumers still get their TV via cable/satellite/IPTV though.
The way I see it in essence is that they are repacking Media Center under the Xbox name, combining in Kinect, combining the Skype integration and manufacturing the hardware themselves. Media Center wasn't just a guide and DVR, it had web based apps too just like Xbox 360 does now.
The eye tracking feature could be very useful in conjunction with SmartGlass. Look down at your tablet to view extra content and the movie pauses, look back up and it resumes.
But.... Does. It. Play. Fucking. Video. Games. Without. An. Online. Connection.
We won't know till May 21st.
If it doesnt, I dont care if the damn thing shits out gold bricks. I don't fucking want it.
But'll be fair... Ill wait for confirmation first.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Based on their recent pattern of reviving old product names (Surface, Outlook.com, etc.) for new products I'd predict they will call it Xbox Media Center, but someone already took that name and URL.
Heck yeah they did. XBMC rocks.
OutToLunch
Neo Member
They might be "far less" of an ad company than Google but that doesn't make the complaint any less valid. If you're going to charge me for a service you shouldn't get to double-dip. Remove the ads for Gold users and the complaints go away.
You can't lump Sony into the same category as MS at this point simply because they patented technology. They're irrelevant until they're actually used. There is no doubt that if / when Sony chooses to force you to watch ads, they'll be roundly criticized just like MS.
Opus Angelorum
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To those saying digital TV isn't a big deal, in the UK 1/6th of the population (10m+) are paid subscribers to Sky. It's a big deal.
JimboJones
Member
What happens if you plug a PS3/Wii U hdmi cable into it, does it mean I can play them and be signed into Xbox Live aswell? lol
Yup, if we understand how it works, that's how it will function
More i think about it , its a pretty interesting feature.
THe idea of having a 2nd mini xbox is stupid as hell thought , people should be able to use their current 360's , since it seems like its just a small xbox...
Also , does anyone know if paying to play online is still gonna be the norm?
If so , no buy from me.
The only reason i own a 360 is because of exclusive great shmups i can import , otherwise i woulda stuck with ps3 only , paying to play online is fucking ridiculous.
Also , i dont have nor plan on getting TV service, ever.
Its great because a lot of people do have tv , but more and more people are going away from tv subscriptions...
I dunno well just have to wait and see.
Some of the stuff dopey mentioned are interesting , but would get tiresome quickly imo.
Ill wait for impressions or more details on the durango itself...i also hate kinect , having to have that plugged in all the time + paying for xbl = me probably not bothering with it.
But Alan Wake 2...god damnit. It better come out on pc , and in a timely manner this time.
THe idea of having a 2nd mini xbox is stupid as hell thought , people should be able to use their current 360's , since it seems like its just a small xbox...
Also , does anyone know if paying to play online is still gonna be the norm?
If so , no buy from me.
The only reason i own a 360 is because of exclusive great shmups i can import , otherwise i woulda stuck with ps3 only , paying to play online is fucking ridiculous.
Also , i dont have nor plan on getting TV service, ever.
Its great because a lot of people do have tv , but more and more people are going away from tv subscriptions...
I dunno well just have to wait and see.
Some of the stuff dopey mentioned are interesting , but would get tiresome quickly imo.
Ill wait for impressions or more details on the durango itself...i also hate kinect , having to have that plugged in all the time + paying for xbl = me probably not bothering with it.
But Alan Wake 2...god damnit. It better come out on pc , and in a timely manner this time.
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
Of course, they aren't going to give up free money. You only have everyone with a Gold subscription to blame.
I thought MS did a special relationship with Canal+ similar to Sky for us here in the UK?
Actually talking of the UK I would not be surprised if they don't make the Xbox 720 a Freeview enabled device via the internet which as I don't have an aerial cable for upstairs would be a wonderful thing to do.
The latest rumors as of today seem to suggest it will not require an online function for the Durango, but that the online requirement was for the optional miniXbox for BC?
I thought we were past this...
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Quick question, In terms of screen overlays, what does this offer in practical function that current smart TV's don't already?
Not to mention the millions of "android on a USB stick" solutions already out there.
My current TV already has its own web browser, netflix, youtube, lovefilm and blinkbox built in, can stream video files from my PC, can play many popular games like plants vs zombies, bejeweled 2, has its own app store, can record live tv to a hard drive and has a bunch of other features I haven't been arsed to look at.
It costs less than $700 brand new.
the only thing I can think of is skype, but im sure there are skype enabled TV's out there....
Not to mention the millions of "android on a USB stick" solutions already out there.
My current TV already has its own web browser, netflix, youtube, lovefilm and blinkbox built in, can stream video files from my PC, can play many popular games like plants vs zombies, bejeweled 2, has its own app store, can record live tv to a hard drive and has a bunch of other features I haven't been arsed to look at.
It costs less than $700 brand new.
the only thing I can think of is skype, but im sure there are skype enabled TV's out there....
Honestly, my large plasma is ONLY connected to PS3 and 360 so for me, it will not see any use. Plus, I live in Canada and I wonder if MS would be able to partner with bell or rogers for that stuff. In either case, it's useless for me and I doubt it will be useful for EU overall. Still, if they can get it to work then kudos to them.
Presumably.
And then you'll have to delete all your shows when you get a new game to install!
R3TRO
Member
No way! I didn't think they could actually coexist with each other; you sir have made me a belieber.
Sadly, high chance to be true.
fatgamecat
Member
I doubt Sony or MS will stop a publisher from implementing their own DRM into their games.
If EA wants to build online activation checks into their console games, do you think MS or Sony would try to stop them?
If EA wants to build online activation checks into their console games, do you think MS or Sony would try to stop them?
Dead Prince
Banned
who cares. you got BC!
Yeah I don't see how that would work. Unless the HDD is over 1Tb, it would be impossible to manage recorded shows, and BluRay game installs.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Once they announce the console we will see if these new studios are going to be able to keep up with sonys first party. It's not like we knew about the games for ps4 before they announced. Patience.
JimboJones
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I don't think their is much worry of MS securing games for their system, they did it pretty well with the 360, probably get to hear all about them when it's properly reavealed.
I don't think MS is so stupid not to have a range of games that hardcore gamers will want.
I have access to over 30 apps here in the UK, including SkyPlayer which gives me live satellite TV channels through the console. It's available in Germany too. France has a similar thing via Canal+. Australians have Foxtel. MS have been adding apps to the 360 at a pretty rapid rate and not just in the US.
Besides, it's not like the competition are doing any better. Sony couldn't even launch a YouTube app in the UK and US at the same time. The UK got it months later. We get some downloadable games weeks/months later than the US too, even though they're launched worldwide on the same day on the 360.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
This sounds awesome. I want it.
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
Sounds great to me. These machines should be able to do more than play games.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Sad that the OP forgot to include the part where MS said they were no longer supporting games on Durango.
It will likely be "always on" like your cable box is. You don't think your cable box is actually booting each time you power it on do you?
dead souls
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I couldn't be less interested in this. I don't get who Microsoft is even making this for. I'm easily in the top 10% of heaviest TV watchers on GAF and I can't imagine using a game console like this. My Tivo works fine and does everything I want it to with regards to cable/television watching. Why would I mess with something that works perfectly?
Vire
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No I know it's always in a hibernation state because of the fact that when you unplug the cable box it has a very long boot time.
But nowhere in this article does it say that the Xbox 720 will have this feature.
I'm just saying, without that - it seems rather pointless to be switching over to your Xbox if it has a significant delay until you can start watching something.
Syphon Filter
Member
As long as i get pd and killer instinct 3.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Still think it's pointless, but mad Jeff Riggby speculation redeemed anyway
Exactly. Brb watching cable tv through my cable box.
Mr.Wreckless
Banned
How do you know it wont bring new features you didnt know you would like?
Ive heard the phrase in bold mentioned about phones so many times in the past only for people to rush to the latest device with great new features.
Given Microsoft's MO when they entered into the game industry, I can understand this move. However, given the state of TV in 2013. I was expecting them to completely replace cable boxes and have a pay-per-content model kinda like what Intel is supposedly going to do in the fall. Either way, it'll be fun to watch an see how this pans out. I'd be much more interested in the Intel model where I can cancel cable and pay for The Daily Show or all Comedy Central content, Game of Thrones & Homeland. Or some other service where I can package a number shows for a set price rather than the over $270 I currently pay for cable. I also think that Sony will have something like this in store that they are not yet talking about but not in the same vein as MS.
Vire
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I think it would be cool for older people. I know my Dad personally struggles using the remote because he can't see the numbers.
So being able to say "NBA-TV" or "NFL Channel"
To the Kinect, could be something worthwhile, and hassle free.
If you could share your recorded shows across multiple devices, that also could prove to be useful.
yup. the tv space is ripe for disruption. it's a shame the internet providers are the same people who have so much invested in the ancient TV/Cable paradigm or it probably would have happened already. I'm still hoping someone someday can kill off that bullshit cable system wherein I have to pay for so much crap I don't want.
TheBryanJZX90
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I hope they give the option of taking it one step further and letting the Xbox replace the cable box. An overlay doesn't really do much for me, but letting me consolidate the boxes under the TV would be great!
I'm not convinced the public at large gives a shit about adding "interactivity" or web apps to their TV experience. Google Tv promised that kind of integration, with new video services and search built in. it's practically dead.
If this nextbox could replace a cable box, then it might be a worthwhile investment. But I refuse to believe that a large number of people would buy this in addition to a cable box in order to get skype on their TV or get an overlay with imdb info for show that's on (or any of the stuff they demoed with smart glass, as an example) they'd rather just use their own tablets and phones and read their private facebook/twitter/web/messaging stuff in private instead of having it on the TV.
I don't think it's a compelling reason to buy a new (expensive) box and I think most consumers will agree.
if this thing doesn't have amazing games for the hardcore willing to plunk down $500 at launch - or if the always online, no used game stuff is true - it will fail.
If this nextbox could replace a cable box, then it might be a worthwhile investment. But I refuse to believe that a large number of people would buy this in addition to a cable box in order to get skype on their TV or get an overlay with imdb info for show that's on (or any of the stuff they demoed with smart glass, as an example) they'd rather just use their own tablets and phones and read their private facebook/twitter/web/messaging stuff in private instead of having it on the TV.
I don't think it's a compelling reason to buy a new (expensive) box and I think most consumers will agree.
if this thing doesn't have amazing games for the hardcore willing to plunk down $500 at launch - or if the always online, no used game stuff is true - it will fail.
Vire
Member
I agree, replacing the box is much more attractive than simply slapping on some extra bells and whistles and calling it a day.
The less boxes I have by my home theater setup, the better.
Durango is rumored to have the same low power state for instant boot.
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synchronicity
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I am one. (for about 3 years) Other than possibly continuing with my ISP service, I want cable companies to remain permanently out of my life. I'm probably going to switch ISPs in the near future as well.
I already had ZERO interest in nextbox, so it doesn't matter to me anyway.