Copernicus said:Why? Unless you have ISPs that aren't assholes it doesn't matter.
My next phonethezerofire said:Motorola Triumph is pretty legit. no MotoBlur either.
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CrankyJay said:Because some people would be happy getting a voice only plan and using the wireless component of the phone at home or the office.
The only reason you have to get a data plan with those phones from the big carriers is for the subsidy. Some people would rather pay $600 for the phone if it meant they didn't have to pay 50/mo. in data charges. After a year you would be saving money.
Copernicus said:ATT forces data plans on any smart phone connected to it's network, whether it's bought from them or not.
Verizon must activate ever yphone on it's network, so you can't just use any phone you want with whatever plan.
T-mo is the only carrier you can get away with it now...but goodbye T-mo.
Azzurri said:We're turning into Canada.
so we're worse off than canada? well shit3N16MA said:I get 6GB for $30 which includes tethering.
This is closer to what I think is fair.3N16MA said:I get 6GB for $30 which includes tethering.
Yes, i hear the government monopoly in Canada is a real treat.DEO3 said:B-b-b-but if only government would get out of the way! Consumers decide the price in a free market!
To my libertarian/tea-party friends: This is what comes of your ideology, monopolies buying out all their competitors and charging you more for less. Enjoy!
Copernicus said:ATT forces data plans on any smart phone connected to it's network, whether it's bought from them or not.
Verizon must activate every phone on it's network, so you can't just use any phone you want with whatever plan. Same with Sprint.
T-mo is the only carrier you can get away with it now...but goodbye T-mo. Local GSM carries like Simply Mobile too, but they piggy back off T-Mo so who knows what's gonna happen with them.
Copernicus said:ATT forces data plans on any smart phone connected to it's network, whether it's bought from them or not.
Wait, what? I can get an unlimited data plan and use tethering and replace house internet? Sounds great to me. Would kinda suck if person with the phone is out of the house, thoughclaviertekky said:Some GAFers here have went 20GB and even replaced their home internet with it.
Don't abuse the privilege I suppose.
Depends on what it is. ATT needs the IMEI on their database. I don't know which phones are exempted, but I know the Samsung Vibrant won't get charged, and neither will any Nokia phone, which is why I'll probably get another Nokia phone, or the T959. Screw $30/month for internet.Copernicus said:ATT forces data plans on any smart phone connected to it's network, whether it's bought from them or not.
HylianTom said:If this kind of thing results in people acting less like smartphone-addicted asses in public spaces, then I'm all for it. Everywhere you go, people are hunched-over as they walk, typing on their tiny little smartphone keyboards, not paying attention to the world they inhabit, where they walk, how they drive, etc.
Let's jack-up these prices higher! Giddy-up!
venne said:I don't believe that's totally accurate. From what I understand it requires data plans only for AT&T branded devices and not unlocked ones.
all my friends with Sprint near me have great signal all the time. I guess it just depends.Menelaus said:It cracks me up seeing all the "HUR I CUM, SPRINT" posts. Clearly none of you have every USED sprint. I live in one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country, and my wife's Sprint coverage/reliability is no joke 50% of my Verizon service.
You won't know what you have till you give it to Sprint. Godspeed, you naive fools.
Nope.xcrunner529 said:Nope, they require it for all smartphones.
Cruceh said:Depends on what it is. ATT needs the IMEI on their database. I don't know which phones are exempted, but I know the Samsung Vibrant won't get charged, and neither will any Nokia phone, which is why I'll probably get another Nokia phone, or the T959. Screw $30/month for internet.
I had Sprint for 10 years before going to Verizon. I notice no difference in my city in signal, other than Sprint 3G usually tested slightly faster.Menelaus said:It cracks me up seeing all the "HUR I CUM, SPRINT" posts. Clearly none of you have every USED sprint. I live in one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country, and my wife's Sprint coverage/reliability is no joke 50% of my Verizon service.
You won't know what you have till you give it to Sprint. Godspeed, you naive fools.
Cruceh said:Nope.
AT&T Member Agreement said:An eligible tiered pricing data plan is required for certain Devices, including iPhones and other designated Smartphones.
Having a hard time wrapping your head around the upcoming changes to Verizon's smartphone data plans? We just got all the dirty details dropped in our laps. Charts, e-mails, the whole kit and kaboodle, folks.
Let's start with what you see above. That's the official chart from the official training document (which you can see in full after the break.) As previously rumored, smartphone plans will start at 2GB for $30 a month, with $10 per gigabyte if you go over. There also are 5GB/$50 and 10GB for $80 plans. Unlimited plans are dead. These rates apply to 3G smartphones and 4G LTE smartphones.
Mobile hotspot access will cost $20 a month for 2GB of data.
Other points to note (many of which are detailed in an internal e-mail we've posted after the break):
If you have Verizon's $29.99 unlimited data plan, you'll be able to keep it after July 7.
You'll also be able to keep the $29.99 unlimited plan when you upgrade to a new phone. (No word on if there's a pricing difference or when that policy could change.)
If you add a line to an existing account, you'll not be able to chose the $29.99 unlimited data plan.
If you're a new customer between now and July 7, you'll still be able to choose the $29.99 plan.
So if you're in the market for a Verizon phone and want to get in on the current unlimited plans before the major changes take effect, you've got two weeks, folks.
Now continue past the break to see the full documents and e-mail.
nataku said:Then why not just keep the $30 unlimited plan around?
I see no reason why Verizon and AT&T couldn't keep their unlimited plans as is and then just offered lower priced tiers with data caps below that.
jeremyxc said:Looks like ill be with verizon forever with my new iphone and unlimited data plan
A Human Becoming said:Is there still a good chance it will be announced today? If the new plans cover multiple phones, my Mom would get an iPhone and we'd share the 2GB.