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VG Leaks details PS4's 'dual camera'
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No it's not.
xenorevlis
Member
Haha, funny you say that. Kinect is the 360 camera, while Kinetic is the PS2 EyeToy game.
Sidewinder
Member
I do not want that in the box, as an accessory I don't mind at all. But bundlung it with every console would either mean higher launch price, or cost reductions in some of the console specs -> no way; one Kinect is already more than enough and this "I'm the controller" thing will die with the beginning of the next gen anyway.
Kenshin001
Member
It'll probably only be for shitty Kinect-like dance games anyway.
casablanca
Member
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Kun Aguero
Member
I hope your right. It would drive up the price, and personally I'm not really into gimmicky peripherals.
IIRC Eyetoy was doing very basic stuff based upon motion detection. Are there any examples of it doing full skeletal tracking/depth perception like Kinect does?
1st Course
Member
That's no good. They need to run at 240fps
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Kazifying software, or bust.
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Rite?
Anyway, specs.
Exmor-R sensors at 120fps. Sonys action cam already does 120 fps in 720p (60 fps in 1080p I think) and has an Exmor-R sensor.
Impressive.
How expensive, though?
There's also processing to take into account. Obviously this depends on what you want to do, but getting depth data out of 2 720p frames @ 120fps? I dunno, someone else can perhaps offer insight on that. I guess, though, they don't have to do the processing on full frames...lower res samples might be fine, with the HD feed just for improved visuals.
I can see them having two different refresh modes again. One at 720p, a faster mode at half HD or something.
Sony always had ancillary controllers to Dualshock as an option. This just seems a natural evolution of their own current camera body tracking technology. It never publicized those options as a huge paradigm shift with Steven Spielberg stage cameos, or staged insane tech demos promising AI behavior only science fiction could imagine possible at todays technology levels (of course those were proved to be deliberately smoke and mirrors cheap tricks afterwards).
Thanks, but no thanks... i don't wan't kinect or this.
Orango APU has dedicated video processing block, maybe it will be tasked to work with this new EyeToy.
The PS Eye did some of this at a novice level. Some people just like to convince themselves otherwise..
It's like saying Move is the first of it's kind because it was more accurate and used better tech. Lol. It's bullshit.
Ps eye had 120hz mode, vita back camera has 120hz mode.
Not to Kinect's level, no. EyeToy Antigrav tracked arms and head to steer the hoverboard. That's about as complicated as it got. It also didn't automatically recognize them like Kinect does. You would put your arms and head in a certain position, so the EyeToy knew what to track.
Boss Man
Member
This better not be some standard shit that gets in the way of my games and takes up first parties' time to work on gimmicks.
According to the same source those 4CUs are free to developers to use as they see most fit.
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iceatcs
Junior Member
Holy grail VR gaming. One more thing, omnidirectional treadmill.
Forsete
Member
Sonystyle says $199.99, but it has lots of fancy features like Carl Zeiss optics which you don't need on the PSEye 2.0
That's no good. They need to run at 240fps
They could always upgrade to the sensor from the NEX-FS700.
4K resolution, records up to 960 fps in 1920x216 interpolated to 1920x1080 (only for 19 seconds though
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The Omega Man
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I hope SONY makes a cheaper SKU with no camera and none of that crap, win win situation for people who are interested in this plus cheaper price.
xenorevlis
Member
Only thing is, when you jump from 30fps to 60fps or even 120fps the amount of light coming into the sensor is cut down significantly. Let's hope Sony doesn't skimp on the sensors in this camera.
Personally, even though I own the PS Eye and even Wonderbook (got it for my sister who is a Harry Potter fanatic) I'd rather not have the new camera as a pack-in.
At least they should offer 2 SKUs.
OPTIONAL
Rite?
Anyway, specs.
Exmor-R sensors at 120fps. Sonys action cam already does 120 fps in 720p (60 fps in 1080p I think) and has an Exmor-R sensor.
120fps. ? and two of those..? 240fps.. Pachter vindicated..
Psychotext
Member
Eyetoy could only track your outline, and not particularly well at that (especially if lighting was an issue). Depth was impossible without the addition of glowing spheres (move).
I'm hoping this new one will be able to handle psuedo depth via stereoscopy. Time will tell though.
Kenshin001
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MikeE21286
Member
It all depends on how they market/intend to use it.
I like the idea of voice chat and a microphone built into every box. I think their intention with this is to grab hold of the less sophisticated Kinect 2.0 games.
I like the idea of voice chat and a microphone built into every box. I think their intention with this is to grab hold of the less sophisticated Kinect 2.0 games.
Calavera520
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Beermeister
Banned
No, I don't want any kind of gimmicky control options, I just want a traditional controller.
flipswitch
Member
Why does Sony continue making things like this when no one likes it/ wants it?. You rarely see people excited about motion controls, doing gestures to the camera. It's all gimmicky crap.
just give me roller skates and a zimmer frame to hold onto.
So controller free gaming was never possible before Kinect?
Okay.
I guess we can act like Sony didn't release a camera peripheral for it's last 2 consoles. So when they release it for this one, we can act surprised and complain about how we don't want a Kinect clone.
I still don't think it should be bundled, but oh well. Like one poster mentioned, at least every will have a mic, for those who like that stuff.
R10Neymarfan
Member
Why not. Oculus Rift integration with this and it's year one for me
Pretty much this
- Non-gaming functions
- Move needs a camera to work
- Sony had EyeToy and PS Eye before MS launched Kinnect
Mikey Jr.
Member
having this unified across two major systems will be a good thing. at least now developers can give critical thought into how such a thing might improve the game experience. if it doesn't, leave it out! it's just as tool.
i dunno, for me this is the first really interesting thing i've heard about the ps4 aside from the share button.
Haha, holy fuck.
Theres another one of these that made me shit my pants.
ANYWAYS, fuck this external camera horseshit. Put a front facing camera on the controller. That would be atleast useful, ie video chat, taking pictures, recording video and uploading it somewhere (mind you, this one doesn't seem that useful but fuck it)
Psychotext
Member
Not sure why, you can build these things for sub $10.
flipswitch
Member
It would be better if they bundled every system with a headset like MS does. Using the camera's mic means it would pick up all other sounds around your house.
funkystudent
Member
Sounds like a slightly less shitty version of current kinect.
I bet the 720's Kinect blows this out of the water though.
I bet the 720's Kinect blows this out of the water though.
Head tracking could be awesome. I'd love it for FPS. That's one of the things I was really hoping for when Kinect was announced but it never happened.
Also, there better be something to compensate for background noise if this is the voice communication solution. I fucking hate hearing echos of the game through other people's mics.
Also, there better be something to compensate for background noise if this is the voice communication solution. I fucking hate hearing echos of the game through other people's mics.