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Virtual On SD!
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UnholySpectacle
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I did not even know they were making a sega ages version. Now if we could get twinsticks for the PS2 we would be all set. I'd rather have them port VOOT though.
rollingstart
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Jirotrom said:
not really, but it is the closest there is to it on DS.
also, just because, the secret best DS mech game is Chousouju Mecha MG.
and I want Virtual On for PSP, they could easily port the Dreamcast or PS2 games to it.
Well, in my defense this one looks like it could be running on a DS chipset already. :loldark10x said:
Yeah, VOOT's better in basically every way (minus the console pad conversion controls) but I still have a soft spot for the original.dark10x said:
Ugh, no. I mean they're sort of loosely similar... in the same way Ico and Ninja Gaiden could be considered loosely similar.Jirotrom said:
Instigator
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Why are the tranparencies messed up?
Awesome awesome awesome.
I'm such a nerd for this series, so the Sega Ages release is a pretty huge deal. VOOT is the better game, but it's not a case of SF2 over SF or something; the original definitely has its charms.
go go no resistance and hyper-analog control for digital input!
The Criterion Collection of videogames.
I'm such a nerd for this series, so the Sega Ages release is a pretty huge deal. VOOT is the better game, but it's not a case of SF2 over SF or something; the original definitely has its charms.
go go no resistance and hyper-analog control for digital input!
The Criterion Collection of videogames.
Shogmaster
Ask me about my package
Model 2 used meshes instead of proper transparencies. Model 3 brought Alpha blending to the fold (5 bit: 32 levels of transparency).Instigator said:
Jonnyram said:
That is true..
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 06: Bonanza Brothers
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 24: Fighting Vipers
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 25: Gunstar Heroes
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 26: Dynamite Deka
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 27: Panzer Dragoon
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 29: Monster World
Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 30: Galaxy Force II
These are all the ones I have, and they're all excellent collections more then worthy of their money.. perhaps the only one that is a bit missing on the features side is Fighting Vipers.
I remember before where they were really nasty 3d remakes, what happened that made Sega realize they needed to fix their act?
DefectiveReject
Banned
is the sign in the first picture saying
"No smoking danger" (So smoke as you please)
or
"No smoking, Danger" (Smoke and yo ass go bye bye??)
"No smoking danger" (So smoke as you please)
or
"No smoking, Danger" (Smoke and yo ass go bye bye??)
It just occurred to me that some kind of crazy mecha game could be done with the Wiimote... first person perspective, transformations, you name it... all using say two wiimotes, one for each arm of the mech and cross pad for movement or something like that, etc.
Someone get on that.
Someone get on that.
rollingstart
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jimbo said:
its a 3D Saturn game, dont expect much.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
This is based on the arcade version right?
Maybe they're just bad screenshots. =/
If it's the Saturn version though you might as well throw it in the trash. Half the frame-rate, spotty graphics all around, ugh.
And Jiji with the save. Thank you.
Maybe they're just bad screenshots. =/
If it's the Saturn version though you might as well throw it in the trash. Half the frame-rate, spotty graphics all around, ugh.
And Jiji with the save. Thank you.
radios shipping overview
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Yeah, it's based on the Model 2 version. I haven't played the arcade original enough to judge how close this is, but it's definitely far above the Saturn version.
Saturn (ow, my eyes bleed):
PS2:
Saturn (ow, my eyes bleed):
PS2:
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
jiji said:
So jiji this is rather OT but I'm guessing selectbutton is the new insertcredit forums? I just saw that same comparison while googling, images and all, in the sb forum. Not that I'm interested in coming back or anything.
Shogmaster
Ask me about my package
It was a model 2 game. If the Saturn version looked that good, Sega would be still making hardware.Linkzg said:
radios shipping overview
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Pretty much, warts and all. And with more drama! And yeah, that was me over there.PepsimanVsJoe said:
Apharmd Battler
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WHOA!! What platform is this sega Ages release on?! Is it going to be released in the US?! I MUST have this!! <drool>.
Yeah, too bad many missed out on one of the greatest series ever created. I'd kill for a XBLA or PSN release with Twinsticks and online play...but that'll never happen!! We're just now gettign a new Sega Rally.
Thanks for the info, it looks like this release and Sega's Fist of the North Star fighting game or going to make me break the bank and buy an import PS2. <shakes fist>.
dark10x said:
Yeah, too bad many missed out on one of the greatest series ever created. I'd kill for a XBLA or PSN release with Twinsticks and online play...but that'll never happen!! We're just now gettign a new Sega Rally.
Thanks for the info, it looks like this release and Sega's Fist of the North Star fighting game or going to make me break the bank and buy an import PS2. <shakes fist>.
radios shipping overview
Member
PS2. Sega of America hasn't touched anything Sega Ages-related since Sega Classics Collection, soooo... probably not.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
jiji said:
Good to know. And yeah I won't be coming back. Had enough of the place when James told me not to post anymore. ****ing drama queen.
Entirely OT of course..my apologies.
Anyway it's a shame I'm cutting back on gaming or I'd be totally on this remake. The more recent Sega Ages releases have been nothing but absolute class.
rollingstart
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Shogmaster said:It was a model 2 game. If the Saturn version looked that good, Sega would be still making hardware.
my memories fail me then, I only got to play the arcade game once in my life, but I own the saturn version and played that a whole lot.
PepsimanVsJoe
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v0yce said:
Marz:
Dumbed down control scheme.
Lots of characters but most of them were clones and suffered from balance issues.
You were pretty much screwed if your partner was killed during the round, 1 vs 2 is near-impossible to work out.
Graphically not much of an improvement over VOOT.
Embarassing story mode that goes on forever and just sucks bad.
Really isn't cut out for any sort of competitive play. A total mess.
Also it's impossible to really mimic the Twin sticks with dual analog. One of the mainstays of competitive Virtual On play is the jump cancel(Which as a VOOT player I'm sure you're aware of this move). Doing the jump cancels or any of the more difficult maneuvers on the analog pad is just asking for your thumbs to lose control and thus there goes the round.
Also unlike the analog pad the Twin Sticks actually have the triggers ON the stick. Adds a ton to playability/atmosphere.
On paper it sounds like a great idea but the execution leaves something to be desired(still better than playing the VO games on the Saturn/DC pads at least).
Marz is just worthless. Best left ignored.
Definitely looking forward to this release. I'm a sucker for Virtual ON, and anything I could do to both get more of it in my life, as well as possibly give Sega an incentive to make a new game? Sign me up!
LOL, that would be nice, if they just basically went back and brought back the whole "Kids" thing that Sega used to do back in the day, and use it as the basis to create a new VO for the DS.
Plus, thanks to SRW@3, we already know that SD and VO can work together well enough...
jarrod said:makes me want a DS version!
LOL, that would be nice, if they just basically went back and brought back the whole "Kids" thing that Sega used to do back in the day, and use it as the basis to create a new VO for the DS.
Plus, thanks to SRW@3, we already know that SD and VO can work together well enough...
psh, better home port of Virtual On >>>>> Anything Nintendo will do with VC. Believe.
Shogmaster said:It was a model 2 game. If the Saturn version looked that good, Sega would be still making hardware.
It really is amazing how ahead of their time Model 1, 2, and 3 were. I first saw VO in arcades years after playing the Saturn version, and I was floored that it was released in 1995. Top of the line PCs in 1995 weren't even doing Quake yet. Can't expect anything less given how much the hardware cost, I'm sure.
PepsimanVsJoe said:
I've always wondered about Marz. Yeah, it's a pretty bad game. Still, it's based on Force, and I'd imagine that if you could get a four-player version of Marz, it wouldn't be terribly different.
Basically, I'm wondering if Force really sucks in the first place, or if the blame should be pointed at the half-assed effort to port-tweak the game into something it isn't.
ShockingAlberto
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I thought this thread would be about running Virtual Console games off SD cards.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Tain said:
I never actually played Force but I did find a review of someone who has.
A snippet:
Actually that's part of his review on Marz.
http://tokyopia.com/tk/forum/index.php?topic=461
Guess one could consider this the "Isuka" of the Virtual On series.
Google is a mess for trying to find info on Force. "Virtual On Force review" gets me thousands of links to Shining Force on the Virtual consoles reviews. There is a wikipedia page at least but it doesn't really have any in-depth explanation of it's good and bad points(except for the fact that it is really dumbed down)
