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Apollo said:
only her hardcore supporters say there's nothing wrong with her emails, she's not corrupt, enough with the emails, The Russians, and wikileaks is fake. Any person that is independent can think for themselves and can see the truth in all of it. You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see the truth.
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What's wrong with her emails, can you tell us oh enlightened one? We'll be waiting.

Mind you, I'm not a "hardcore supporter" of her. I don't like her and she's be very far down on the list if I was the one solely choosing a president for the US. But the stuff people come with to try and discredit her is pathetic, and seems to get even more ridiculous every time.
 
Great article. Does an excellent job of explaining the situation.

However, the people that actually need to read this never will.
 
BernardoOne said:
I love how Hillary is becoming more and more powerful witch each statement. I await for the time when people start saying she's hypnotising world leaders with her witch powers to do their bidding, or how Hillary plans to ascend to a divine status by doing a sacrifice ritual where she kills younglings.
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Don't forget that while being the most powerful person on earth with immense influence and reach she is also incompetent and can't do anything!

#republicannarrative
 
Apollo said:
only her hardcore supporters say there's nothing wrong with her emails, she's not corrupt, enough with the emails, The Russians, and wikileaks is fake. Any person that is independent can think for themselves and can see the truth in all of it. You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see the truth.
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Stay woke, fam.
 
Apollo said:
only her hardcore supporters say there's nothing wrong with her emails, she's not corrupt, enough with the emails, The Russians, and wikileaks is fake. Any person that is independent can think for themselves and can see the truth in all of it. You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see the truth.
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"Independent" doesn't mean free from bias. It just means free from a perceived label. Nice try though. Considering all of your "truth" only lean against one candidate.
 
Frustrated_me said:
Deny donation and let it be known publicly that they (as a Western Org) do not stand for all the shit that the KSA has caused in the world. Pressure them into changing their barbaric ways, we sure pressured Russia and Iran when it mattered, why can't we with these savages?

Yes, the money is used for good things (research into medicine for example) I'm not disputing that. I'm not even arguing "corruption" or whatever else the media is saying about this. My only issue is having to depend on these people to do some good when they do so much bad.
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That'd be a stupid move for a charity, c'mon. The money is put to far better use in the charity's hands than in some dictator's hands.

Apollo said:
only her hardcore supporters say there's nothing wrong with her emails, she's not corrupt, enough with the emails, The Russians, and wikileaks is fake. Any person that is independent can think for themselves and can see the truth in all of it. You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see the truth.
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First, nobody is saying wikileaks is fake. On the contrary, it being real means that there is no major amount of corruption behind the scenes with Clinton(hell, they actually made me like her more seeing her private positions). Second, I'm an independent, do I get to dictate the truth?
 
BernardoOne said:
What's wrong with her emails, can you tell us oh enlightened one? We'll be waiting.

Mind you, I'm not a "hardcore supporter" of her. I don't like her and she's be very far down on the list if I was the one solely choosing a president for the US. But the stuff people come with to try and discredit her is pathetic, and seems to get even more ridiculous every time.
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It's almost like her hardcore opponents and clinging, desperately if I may say, to whatever they can to disprove her qualifications, capabilities, and convictions.
 
cwmartin said:
You also think these countries are personally writing checks to Hillary Clinton?

This is absolute bonkers. Why is it always "she gets" "they give her". She is not the foundation, they are not giving money to her as a person. WTF
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Of course they are. Trump and Hillary are exactly as bad as one another. You can bet she bought a giant portrait of herself with those funds./s
 
Yeah it's crazy, if those emails cost her the election....


GRRM observes:
Pappy Bush lost an election by looking at his watch. Michael Dukakis lost an election by riding around in a tank. Howard Dean lost an election by giving a yeeeehah scream. Trivial things. Insignificant things. Trump, on the other hand, has said the vilest things any presidential candidate has said since George Wallace, and he's rising in the polls.

He has boasted that he could shoot someone dead on Fifth Avenue and still not lose any votes. I am beginning to think he was right.
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Welp :(
 
Very good piece. Explains why not only this wasn't a big deal, but why the stupidass conspiracy theories on the Right don't make any goddamned sense.

There needs to be more articles like this. I've seen too many that go into asinine detail about what statute she broke or whatever, but hardly anyone talks about her motivations and what doing any of this shit would actually accomplish.
 
I've seen a bunch of right wing lunatics claim that the firebombing of the church in Mississippi was a false flag operation by Hillary to help her win that state. As if she needs MS to win the presidency.

So in other words the people that latch on to the email corruption story are too far gone to bother themselves with how trivial it actually is. They'll convince themselves of anything if they believe it paints the opposition in a negative light.
 
The Albatross said:
This is one of the first times that I wholeheartedly agree with a Vox piece.
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I can't help asking because I'm too curious—what articles have they done that you had problems with?

I feel like they've been on fire in general lately—pointing out a lot of BS and explaining how it makes perfect sense.
 
Well the article makes it clear that it was out of convenience rather than for something sinister (which I've already known), but it went too far with the "but Colin Powell..." argument. The policy and expectation had specifically changed by the time she got in office. To put them in the same pot and suggest that technology standards (in the 2000s!) didn't dramatically change in between the time they were in office is crazy.

But I do find it a little ironic since the article went out of its way to speak of the "ever-changing" nature of classification standards.
 
neoemonk said:
I've heard a lot of conspiracy nutty things in the past few years, and there definitely seems to be an uptick in them this year for some reason, but claiming that the media has a vested interest in ratings isn't even remotely close.
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I meant the conspiracy is that the media wants to create a horse race, not so much that they are focused on ratings which is a given.
 
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