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VP of Digital Media at Microsoft Confirms NO 1080p HD-DVD or DVD over Component
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plagiarize
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yeah when it comes to TVs i don't think it's insane to suggest sony make good quality sets. I have a rear projection 1080p 50" SXRD (that doesn't take a 1080p feed, but does a great job making 1080i look like 1080p and has internal scalers and 3:2 pulldown and such) and I love it.
you don't have to be in the SDF to appreciate that Sony make great TVs. they had a wobble for a few years and let other people outpace them, but they've definately caught up and in my opinion surpassed others in the LCD and rear projection area currently.
you don't have to be in the SDF to appreciate that Sony make great TVs. they had a wobble for a few years and let other people outpace them, but they've definately caught up and in my opinion surpassed others in the LCD and rear projection area currently.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
JB1981 said:
Cool. HD-DVD via the X360 player component connection at 1080i on a 1080p tv should look staggering.
I wonder how big a difference there will be between a 1080p TV receiving a 1080i signal versus one receiving a 1080p signal?
krypt0nian
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Nutter said:
Because he gets away with it.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
JB1981 said:
Thanks JB. I now feel pretty confident that when I do buy a 1080p TV in a few years, all of my X360 games output at 1080i (and maybe HD-DVD movies if HD-DVD wins the format war) via component should look staggering.
sugarhigh4242
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question about the HD-DVD drive:
Will you be able to load Xbox360 games on DVD from the HD-DVD drive?
Will you be able to load Xbox360 games on DVD from the HD-DVD drive?
Moderation Unlimited
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krypt0nian said:
The question is why. Why should he get away with it? Does he have some kind of insider connection or something. Cuz these threads are pretty annoying.
radioheadrule83
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Well if they bother you -
SDF avatars can serve a useful function. You'll know exactly who to block / put on ignore.
SDF avatars can serve a useful function. You'll know exactly who to block / put on ignore.
The Faceless Master
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what percentage of tvs in homes are even 720p/1080i ready?DenogginizerOS said:
:lol :lol :lol
i don't get this whole 'middle ground' balancing act...
on one hand, there are all these people saying how people who don't have a hdtv suck for playing dead rising, yet when the 1080p angle pops up, it's a fliparoo...
sugarhigh4242 said:
Not sure, but HD-DVD drives handle DVD playback with ease. In fact, they're releasing a lot of dual-layered HD-DVDs: one side being the hd-dvd version, the other being the dvd version of the movie. That way, you don't have to buy two versions of the same movie (a cool idea, if you ask me).
The Faceless Master
Member
*raises hand*K_S said:
i waited for 1080p!
plagiarize
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he is very very careful. he keeps his inflammatory remarks to such things as open ended questions. he didn't say Microsoft lied, he just wondered if they were lying or not. he's damn good at keeping the right side of the line, which is the most impressive thing about his posts.Moderation Unlimited said:
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This thread is informative and dumb at the sametime.
Moderation Unlimited
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mckmas8808 said:
Exactly. But it's leaning more towards the dumb side...being, of course, that it is inflamatory.
plagiarize
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no. i was pondering the same so i looked it up. DVI allows for analogue signals to be sent down the cable, which is what the VGA to DVI adapter does (presuming you aren't talking about something that costs hundreds of dollars). HDMI doesn't allow for analogue signals at all. so that won't work.RoH said:
plagiarize said:
The thing is I have a DVI to HDMI adapter sitting right in front of me, with a DVI to VGA adapter attached to it. I'm just missing the female connector to attach the male xbox VGA adapter.
But i guess it has been tried and does not work... Alas I have saddened my self again...
plagiarize
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the vga cable comes with such an adapter doesn't it?RoH said:
plagiarize said:
Yeah but my buddy borrowed it for use with his monster cables on his his PC monitor (I use my big ass TV with a Female input), but he moved away and forgot to give it back. Oh yeah I for got to give him his HDMI VGA adapter thing.
I want to do this because my TV is 720 native and does not Upscale over VGA. And I can not go back to Component cables every thing looks blurry..
plagiarize said:
mostly true.
DVI does allow analog signals to be sent down the cable.
however HDMI doesnt' allow for analog signals so you'd need a D -> A converter which I don't think exists.
HOWEVER, if your tv still has a DVI input and it supports HDCP (most newer DVI I believe) AND DVI-A -- you won't have to go to HDMI.
Here's what I heard from an MS rep. From the article:
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=13877
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=13877
segasonic said:
:lol
compelling argument. You forget that historically consumers have been shown to be much, much, much more concerned with 1 thing: price. Unless 1080p panels retail for the same as a 720 panel and both retail as "High Definition" (whether the 1080p one is "enhanced", "true", or "beyond", doesn't matter) I can guarantee you which ones will sell more.
plagiarize
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if i had DVI i wouldn't need to go HDMI. i have a VGA in, but it's only set 4:3 resolutions that it accepts. you can buy VGA to component converters, but they're multiple hundreds for a decent one, and i could just get an upscaling DVD player for less. (since that's the only issue for me, my tv will make 1080i HD-DVD look awesome if i get the add on).arne said:
Moderation Unlimited
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choc_cake said:
I hate that justifying (fill in blank with so many dollars purchase) bullshit...
Why not spend the $600.00? It is certainly worth it from a value perspective. Same goes for the $400.00 for the X360 and the $200.00 for the HD-DVD add-on. They are both worth the $600.00 IMO. And the Wii is worth $250.00 for what it brings to the table.
That argument is not valid.
krypt0nian
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snatches said:
Next gen.
So they never heard of compression? Worst case is that you would
have to put in two DVD 9 disks that would be cheaper than that of
one blu-ray disk.
Sorry, but I don't think it is needed yet. Next gen beyond the PS3
and Xbox 360 sure, but not right now.
It isn't a big enough feature for me to go out and spend $600.
Not on a video game console.
Doesn't everyone get tired of the trolling and just useless crap?
By the way, I have been reading on these forums for years and just
now signed up, but honestly I think without people being fanboys and
making up crap about other consoles is just dumb.
Life is too short to worry about some dumb console and making that into your life.
The Faceless Master
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i think it was that time when people found out the 2nd ps3 sku didnt have hdmi, then all the ps3/360 fanboys all started arguing for and against the technicalities of the issue...Onix said:
Next HDTV or monitor I buy I'm making sure that it has a VGA connection cause it seems like it's the only connection that is not riddled with tons of copy protection bullshit.
Component is too ****ed up. DVD's can only play at 480p, but HD DVD can play up to 1080i? What the **** is the point of that? Why restrict a lower quality version of the source material more than a higher quality source? And who the **** copies movies over analog video connections anyway? This whole copy restriction mechanism makes no sense whatsoever.
When people copy and pirate a movie they copy the encoded data off the disc, not the decoded output. This whole component output restriction is nothing more than a nuissance and source of confusion for honest consumers. This does absolutely nothing to prevent pristine 1:1 quality piracy.
HDMI/DVI is garbage too. I connect my cable box via HDMI or DVI to my tv and all of a sudden my VCR can't record certain television shows that are flagged. If a tv show is flagged the digital connection will shutdown all other video outputs to prevent you from recording the program. I had to toss that HDMI shit out and go back to component just to be able to record tv shows over S-video. All this unnecessary aggravation just makes me want to pirate tv shows/movies and not have to deal with this hassle anymore.
Component is too ****ed up. DVD's can only play at 480p, but HD DVD can play up to 1080i? What the **** is the point of that? Why restrict a lower quality version of the source material more than a higher quality source? And who the **** copies movies over analog video connections anyway? This whole copy restriction mechanism makes no sense whatsoever.
When people copy and pirate a movie they copy the encoded data off the disc, not the decoded output. This whole component output restriction is nothing more than a nuissance and source of confusion for honest consumers. This does absolutely nothing to prevent pristine 1:1 quality piracy.
HDMI/DVI is garbage too. I connect my cable box via HDMI or DVI to my tv and all of a sudden my VCR can't record certain television shows that are flagged. If a tv show is flagged the digital connection will shutdown all other video outputs to prevent you from recording the program. I had to toss that HDMI shit out and go back to component just to be able to record tv shows over S-video. All this unnecessary aggravation just makes me want to pirate tv shows/movies and not have to deal with this hassle anymore.