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Waiters clearing your plate when others at the table are not done eating

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I am sure that is a rule at Applebee's.

Uh no, try eating out more at upscale restaurants or working for one and not the places with pictures of food on the menu. Anybody who says otherwise is simply wrong.

But go ahead and continue to not tip because you are the only one here who has real etiquette.
 
How the fuck is the busser/waiter/waitress suppose to know that you have ADD regarding the table not being cleaned right away?

Same way the busser/waiter/waitress is supposed to know that the OP not only doesn't want their table cleaned right away, but that they feel they shouldn't even have to say that.

You would think mind readers could find better things to do than work in a restaurant.
 
Uh no, try eating out more at upscale restaurants or working for one and not the places with pictures of food on the menu. Anybody who says otherwise is simply wrong.

But go ahead and continue to not tip because you are the only one here who has real etiquette.

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... what?
 
At fine dining, the rule I followed was you have to wait until the women at the table are done to start clearing. But this was at a place where the owner was the only one with access to a curated wine cellar. It's very context based.
 
Yet another thing to complain about on the internet. Sigh...

The restaurant staff are just trying to be efficient.
 
He originally quoted a bunch of people saying pre-bussing was okay and normal and then went full-on snooty mode as you saw there.

He then changed it to quote you for some reason...even though you were being sarcastic.

I only quoted him but for some reason all of his quotes were also in there which usually doesn't happen. I was agreeing with one of the people he quoted so my comment would have just confused everybody if I didn't edit them out. Stop confusing people.

And I didn't change it to quote him, he was the original person I quoted. I think I hit the add quote buttons before but it still doesn't change what I said.
 
My biggest problem with this practice is when I'm at a buffet, and I run out of something like mashed potatoes and go to get some, and return to find all my plates have been cleared. Now food has been wasted and I have to get up to duplicate what I was eating. I cross my utensils on the plate, but I don't think the waiters and waitresses have ever seen that before and don't know what it means, so it never works.

Also it's annoying when I get up for more food and the waitress assumes I've left for good, and for another 20 minutes I have no service. Places like Ryan's buffet now don't even give you the dollar or two you request for a tip in physical cash anymore, it takes the form of the receipt which lists your drinks so you have to give it to the waiter or waitress upon sitting down and so you can't withhold a tip for bad service. It's quite maddening since if I try not to give them the receipt at the beginning they ask for it to prove I'm a paying customer.
 
Where I live I think people would actually be more annoyed if the waiter didn't take away our dirty plates as soon as they were finished. I have never heard anybody complain about this, ever. I'm not just talking some family restaurant either. I went to Marco pierre whites restaurant here and the waiters did exactly this. Its normal.
 
I'm glad that this is something that I don't get worked up about/never even give a second thought about. Life would be a lot more of a chore if I was always looking for mundane things to annoy me.
 
That's why I don't like it, no one wants to feel like you're being rushed through dinner.

Removing your dirty empty plates should have nothing to do with rushing you out the door nor should it create that feeling.

I prefer to have my dishes removed when I am finished eating. I can then sit there with my beverage without the mess/clutter or when the time comes have an area clear and ready for dessert.
 
My biggest problem with this practice is when I'm at a buffet, and I run out of something like mashed potatoes and go to get some, and return to find all my plates have been cleared. Now food has been wasted and I have to get up to duplicate what I was eating. I cross my utensils on the plate, but I don't think the waiters and waitresses have ever seen that before and don't know what it means, so it never works.

Also it's annoying when I get up for more food and the waitress assumes I've left for good, and for another 20 minutes I have no service. Places like Ryan's buffet now don't even give you the dollar or two you request for a tip in physical cash anymore, it takes the form of the receipt which lists your drinks so you have to give it to the waiter or waitress upon sitting down and so you can't withhold a tip for bad service. It's quite maddening since if I try not to give them the receipt at the beginning they ask for it to prove I'm a paying customer.
Here's an idea: don't leave until you've finished your plate or tell the person at the table with you not to let the employees take the plate (unless you're alone then go to option 1). It's that damn simple.
 
Same way the busser/waiter/waitress is supposed to know that the OP not only doesn't want their table cleaned right away, but that they feel they shouldn't even have to say that.

You would think mind readers could find better things to do than work in a restaurant.

ITT: People don't know how to communicate and take it out on the server.

Just tell your busser/server you do or don't want the table cleared until everyone is done.

This seems like a huge non-issue to me...
 
If I am done I dont want dirty dishes in front of me.

I also imagine it motivates some people to buy dessert, just so that they have something in front of them.
 
ITT: People don't know how to communicate and take it out on the server.

Just tell your busser/server you do or don't want the table cleared until everyone is done.

This seems like a huge non-issue to me...
No they should forgo all restaurant policy and solely focus on reading your mind for some super special snooty etiquette no one knows or cares about.
 
Removing your dirty empty plates should have nothing to do with rushing you out the door nor should it create that feeling.

I prefer to have my dishes removed when I am finished eating. I can then sit there with my beverage without the mess/clutter or when the time comes have an area clear and ready for dessert.

I think it both gives the impression to other diners at your table that they should hurry up and that the restaurant itself can't wait to get you on your way. It's also why I don't like it when a waiter brings me the check before I ask for it.
 
Where I live I think people would actually be more annoyed if the waiter didn't take away our dirty plates as soon as they were finished. I have never heard anybody complain about this, ever. I'm not just talking some family restaurant either. I went to Marco pierre whites restaurant here and the waiters did exactly this. Its normal.
Before other people at the table have finished eating?
 
I am usually glad when they clear the plates, it is less cluttered and gives more room.
I would think having the other people stare at your empty plate will just as easily do the job of showing people that you finished faster than everyone else.
 
I think it both gives the impression to other diners at your table that they should hurry up and that the restaurant itself can't wait to get you on your way. It's also why I don't like it when a waiter brings me the check before I ask for it.

What you see as an annoyance I see as a convenience.

Do you think the people at your table don't realize that you have already finished your food if you keep a dirty plate in front of you? It shouldn't make a a difference man.
 
ITT: People don't know how to communicate and take it out on the server.

Just tell your busser/server you do or don't want the table cleared until everyone is done.

This seems like a huge non-issue to me...

After all, better to spend an hour on a thread discussing the issue, than take 10 seconds to let a waiter know your preference.
 
I think it both gives the impression to other diners at your table that they should hurry up and that the restaurant itself can't wait to get you on your way. It's also why I don't like it when a waiter brings me the check before I ask for it.
People need to stop worrying about hypothetical scenarios that have no credence to the majority. The majority of restaurants don't care unless you're there for an extended amount of time and they're busy. Most people don't care because they're too busy focused on the experience of conversing or actually enjoying their food. No one cares if you're a slow eater. Take your time and enjoy your food and company.
 
I might agree if we were in the US. I would argue that it's impolite here in the UK, particularly if there are ladies at the table. You can be professional and polite without being robotic. It's part of the skill.


Screw you man. It's my livelihood and my home. It's a very good restaurant in the Sussex downs, not some damn chain diner whatever, and I expect professionalism and basic etiquette to be enforced at all times.

I just want to give you props for having a (what I assume from reading here) nice establishment and understanding what should be a pretty simple point.

When my girl and I out for dinner it bothers me when she feels rushed. I tend to eat quicker than average due to years of conditioning at my job so I am usually finished first. I cannot recall a time a waiter/waitress has taken a plate from me without my permission (when it is just us) but when we first started dating I did make the mistake of letting them take it. After a couple times I caught on to the body language.

I absolutely agree with the article and first post. And the people I have basically reiterated.
 
Here's an idea: don't leave until you've finished your plate or tell the person at the table with you not to let the employees take the plate (unless you're alone then go to option 1). It's that damn simple.

No, it's not that simple. Food compliments each other, if I'm out of baked chicken, mash potatoes, bread, and whatever else it can ruin what I'm eating. I want to be able to get up and return without having everything taken away. I don't want to stay and miserably finish off a plate of carbohydrates if I'm out of meat, or vice versa.
 
What you see as an annoyance I see as a convenience.

Do you think the people at your table don't realize that you have already finished your food if you keep a dirty plate in front of you? It shouldn't make a a difference man.

Sure people realize that you're already done but there's a difference between someone who just finished their plate and having the process started of cleaning up the table. It's not the end of the world but I think there's a reason why fancy restaurants clear all the plates at the same time.
 
How the fuck is the busser/waiter/waitress suppose to know that you have ADD regarding the table not being cleaned right away?

It doesn't seem fair to take it out on the server if its the manager initiating a policy like leaving food on the tables as to not rush customers out.

How does ADD relate to this? Were talking about when management wants the server to prebus the table, but the server does a poor job of doing it. Certain servers in the same restaurant will do an excellent job of prebussing, while others not so excellent.

How is removing the dirty plates from the table rushing the customers out? But this brings up something that has annoyed me plenty of times. There are many times, I've gone to a restaurant with the plan to get dessert after the main course, but the server never even ask if anyone at my able would like dessert, they just bring the check.
 
No, it's not that simple. Food compliments each other, if I'm out of baked chicken, mash potatoes, bread, and whatever else it can ruin what I'm eating. I want to be able to get up and return without having everything taken away. I don't want to stay and miserably finish off a plate of carbohydrates if I'm out of meat, or vice versa.
You're at a buffet. It's common policy at all buffets that no one sees as a hindrance but a minority. For everyone else it's convenience. So you need to find a work-around or deal with it. Don't blame the employees.
 
Man, reading this thread makes me really happy I don't get all rustled up about serving etiquette. Outside of being straight up rude, anyway. I can't say that what time a server takes my plate away even registers with me much.

Honestly, I like when servers are super casual with me. Makes the interaction feel way less fake to me.
 
The only time I become more se sensitive about etiquette is at fine dining places. Four, five star type places. And generally then, they know their stuff anyway.

Anything less? I really don't care. I'd never get upset for removing a mess sooner rather than later. And besides if you're the only one in your group still eating, you're still going to feel slow because you're the only one still eating. Having dishes there or not doesn't really actually matter. Just an excuse to cheap out on the tip probably if you're in a tipping area.
 
Yet another thing to complain about on the internet. Sigh...

The restaurant staff are just trying to be efficient.

I pretty much only see the Internet complaining about, and getting seriously worked up over, the status quo or the expectations of others which they don't understand, actually. As someone that has worked in food service and has an intimate knowledge of the industry, I popped into this thread to say, "Yeah, well actually, it is frowned upon at most decent restaurants." Which is not to say I wouldn't tip if someone "pre-bussed" me; again, I've worked in food service and can't remember the last time I tipped below 15%, typically 20%, because even if you're working in a Michelin two-starred restaurant waiting tables is really hard work and often blows, particularly in the US. But it's not the norm at places I frequent, nor was I ever instructed to do it at restaurants I worked at (which were typically casual upscale). It's super basic dining etiquette. Which is all I and a couple others were trying to clarify.
 
Before other people at the table have finished eating?

Yep. The waiter asked would we like our plate removed if one of us was finished. It didn't bother the others who were still eating. Why would it? I've never heard of people complain about this. It seems like one of those thing that people label as good etiquette or rude without any real reason as to why. I don't want dirty plates in front of me when I'm finished nor would I care if a waiter took someone elses.
 
If you lay your utensils across your plate they might remove it without asking.
 
Nope, the waiter needs to keep the table as clean as possible, taking up empty plates as soon as they know they are empty is a part of that. They're not rushing anyone, I'm surprised anyone feels more comfortable with a dirty plate in front of them that a clean area of table.
 
I'm a pub and restaurant manager, and if any of my serving staff called my customers "guys" I'd give them a stern talking to.

Bet they all hate you and talk about it behind your back. That's what we do.

Yet another thing to complain about on the internet. Sigh...

It's become a thing recently than awkward nerds are too afraid to say something in person to person situations, so instead they complain about it on GAF.
 
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