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WaPo: Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin
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Autodidact
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He has $250,000 in Russian index funds.
I was just thinking the other day how I'd give my left nut for Jeb or Romney to be president right now. That's how far we've fallen.
At some point the the republican fence sitters are going to have to decide what their kids and grandkids will read about for the next twenty-thirty years instead of whether they'll get primaried by crazies
NullPointer
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Ehh... maybe this is for the best... I guess it's yet to be seen but this whole scandal seems to have a very very good chance of blowing up the Republican party completely. We couldn't get that with the others.
jellies_two
Member
They may equally have been trying to evolve the one they had to something better. As in, guys, we have to stop meeting as we have been, the attention will be on us more now that we won, can't do it this way any more. I betcha have some great line back to putin can we use it?
I dunno, dude. Look at how dumbass Americans doubled down in the Montana vote.
Idiots will be idiots, and they will continue to vote vultures in. They will take charred birds from this burning house and reelect them again.
This has existed for a while, but anything involving Russia and the administration leads to hysteria and a lot of clicks for these news orgs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow–Washington_hotline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow–Washington_hotline
Dubbedinenglish
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Surely you are not this dense lol
What does this have to do with the Kushner story?
Bam Bam Baklava
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I don't think you understand what's going on here. Jared Kushner was a private citizen at the time.
Whoever is giving you this narrative is misinformed and I think you should defer to former NSA/CIA officials on TV saying this is highly unusual.
JetBlackPanda
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Did you have to much vodka for dinner Comrad?
Right. They didn't want to use that because they didn't want their communications known by the government. So like....
A man willing and able to tackle problems.
Dash_Riprock
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If you were trying to look smart, you failed utterly.
DontBeThatGuy
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Which right-wing source told you this was relevant?
Sometimes hysteria does get posted but you didn't address anything in this thread. In fact you posted something completely random that doesn't matter at all.
I'd suggest re-reading what the story is
Anything involving communications between a transition team and a foreign country normally goes through the current administration, and even then it's normally handled through embassies.
A president-elect needing a direct line, secure and secret to even US entities is highly unusual.
Then you take the rest of the story into context and it moves from unusual to suspicious.
Of course you know all of this already.
JetBlackPanda
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"These news orgs" btw are litteraly saving our democracy.
lol
I don't know either, heh. Hoping for the best. Well, what I'm hoping for is that this takes out Trump, Kushner, Manafort, Flynn, Pence, and even Paul Ryan. Then Trump would have fulfilled his promise of draining the swamp!
We aren't talking about the hotline. Kushner is allegedly asking to use Russian equipment, for God's sake. He asked to walk into an embassy and use Russian channels! That's certainly brazen, no?
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SatelliteOfLove
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The thing that gets me about this shitshow is that all of those crazy, insane conspiracy theories and detached circumstancial info floating around during the transisition was almost too unbelievable...then one by one, they've shown to be the reality. Steele Dossier might as well be a script by this point.
Laevateinn
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Another scoop onto the ignore list.
On topic, I hope WaPo works on the holidays. I can't stand three days without a Trump treason story.
On topic, I hope WaPo works on the holidays. I can't stand three days without a Trump treason story.
This thing is like a rabbit-hole of what the fuck, but like... The goal was to discuss cooperation with Russia re:Syria. Trump's team (although not Trump himself because why would he fucking care) were getting daily briefings from the Obama administration around this time, right? Flynn was in on those?
Because if so, and Flynn wanted to discuss the current situation and possible cooperation with Russia, isn't this tacit admitting that Kushner was trying to set this up so Flynn could have discussions about US Military operations he'd be privy to with Russia without respect for what may or may not be intel he's allowed to discuss? He'd have to--if the Russians tell him they want to do X and he knows the US is going to do Y which interferes, he'd have to say something or it's not cooperation?
The president can declassify shit at will; the president elect can't. His magical son-in-law can't. Flynn can't. Is there any interpetation of this that isn't illegal? Flynn honor system maybe?
HP_Wuvcraft
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Proof doesn't matter.
We're trying to focus on three or four of these stories a day. It's really overwhelming; numbing, to be frank. The "novelty" is wearing off on me, personally. This is fucked up.
No, not really. The former CIA director was just on MSNBC saying that if an operative had done something like this, it would be considered espionage.
That THIS is the best response the WH can come up with tells you how fucked Kushner is.
Yup that's where I'm at. These stories happen hourly now and people are getting fucking numb.
It's like "well that's not surprising", and people go back to waiting for the real evidence and actions to go down.
Crazy times
ratcliffja
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The only things that would get a huge response at this point are if somebody involved with the Trump campaign gets charged with a crime or if we get explicit evidence for Trump committing a crime.
Yup, this
BlastProcessing
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My initial response to Kushner trying to set it up was somewhere along the lines of "that's fucked up, but they'll just insist it wasn't to discuss anything classified, they just had concerns about security and didn't trust the swamp." Something bullshit and not believable but with enough built-in deniability to almost half work.
I'm not mentally prepared for them bluntly saying the plan was to share military intel in secret. Jesus christ.
JetBlackPanda
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Pretty much this. The media is doing a great job pounding how crazy this stuff is into us. At the end of the day though we go to bed and wake up and nothing happens.
I think everyone including the media is starting to realize we really don't have much power. The GOP are THE only ones that can actually start the process to save our democracy.
sturgboski
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What media? The libtard fake media? What about Hillary and her emails and killing Seth Rich? - All Trump supporters and all right leaning media.
And into quote unquote treason territory.
MastaKilla
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It's crazy none of this shit is actually leading to anything so far
JetBlackPanda
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For it to lead to anything the GOP has to give a fuck. They are the ruling party of our country at the moment.
Breaking news.. they don't give a fuck
ratcliffja
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It's an ongoing investigation that has recently kicked into high gear. They need to collect as much evidence as possible to make sure that they find out who did what and how can the FBI prove it.
sturgboski
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Well, on a surface level, 45 is still popular with the right and thus the GOP doesnt want to do anything. Additionally, 45 is a useful idiot as he will sign whatever Congress (which is currently controlled by GOP) puts on his desk which is basically anything that erodes environmental protection and being reverse Robin Hood (fucking over the poor to give to the rich). The philosophy of doing everything that is shitty for the populace as a whole while ensuring the rich get richer is the GOP mantra.
The tinfoil hat (that I hope is true) is that the buck doesnt stop at 45 and his advisors, VP, and cabinet BUT this rolls downhill. The fact that the faces of the GOP are so adamant to stand by Trump and downplay all of this feeds the belief that, well, folks like Ryan, etc are implicated in this as well.
The People vs OJ Treason
innervision961
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He is and don't you call him Shirley.
That's the one.
