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Was the past better than the present? Or not?

Past better? Or present better?

  • Past better

    Votes: 49 61.3%
  • Present better

    Votes: 31 38.8%

  • Total voters
    80

Blade2.0

Member
Depends what you're asking about? Americans have better tech than before, but most people can't afford it. If you mean, are things better than in the past, I'd say medicine, tech, etc is all better. However, being able to support a family on one income is almost out the door accept for the top 10% of Americans, we work longer hours for less pay and everything is more expensive like housing, medical care, food, etc. Having the best doesn't matter if only 10% get to use it. I will say, though. I don't want to go back to before the internet. I mean I wouldn't be able to chat with you fine folks or watch my shows without having to wait a week for the next episode to come on. That is demonstrably better to me. Everything else surrounding the tech, however, has gotten worse.
 

John Bilbo

Member
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Tams

Member
While there is an absolute nonsense these days, partly because life is so relatively easy now that people have time and energy to think it; now is better.

Seriously, how shit life was for most people even 70 years ago is barely comprehensible these days.

That said, the '90s and '00s were the best and had just the right balance.
 
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poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I visited the Biltmore estate not so long ago and for all the lavishness and insane money spent, I couldn't help thinking that I have shit in my average everyday life today that they would have given anything for.
 
No. It's funny how the best time ever for anything always coincides with the person saying that having been 17-25. I find myself falling into this trap all the time.

Life was definitely different though, and differences means some things were certainly better than now. And some of those are a big deal. But overall, no, I don't think so. As a financially comfortable westerner, life is pretty damn sweet.
 

Billbofet

Member
I think it's more about your level of responsibility defining your "best" time, and that's likely why everyone focuses on their high school/college years.
I wish I could go back knowing what I know now so I could enjoy it even more. That said, no regrets!!
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I think the 80's into the early 90's were, overall, a "better" time. Globalization hadn't yet taken hold, you could work a wide range of jobs and still get by, there were "enough" electronics to have fun but not be a social media zombie, and art was at it's peak.

The only bummer was HIV squashing "free love" for a horny teen*. Dammit!

* as if a nerd like me could get laid even in the 60's :p
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Pre advent of social media/internet was vastly superior, i.e. 80's/90's early naughties, life was good, each new gaming generation was a massive step up, people actually communicated face to face, kids played outdoors and where left to their own devices all day without a care in the world, I hate that my kids are missing out on the sort of childhood I had
 

Rockondevil

Member
I say present based on the length of time the earth has been around.
Sure there were a couple of recent decades that could be argued are better, but that's all recent history.
 

Peggies

Gold Member
I was born in 1984 in a city that had all the pros of big citylife but none of the cons. In one of the richest countries in the world with the best social system one could wish. No nearby or noticeable wars. Worldwars, climate change, nuclear anxiety...all that shit was just something I knew from school(books). Climate change was something "not even our grandchildren will notice".

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IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Depends.

In some ways the past was better. In other ways the present is better.

On a personal level, the late 90s and early 00s were better. Just everything seemed more relaxed and the world was a more optimistic place in this period.
 

winjer

Gold Member
Like most, if by the past you mean something a couple of decades ago, I would say that past was better than what we have now.
But if we are talking a century, or millennia, then it's a definite no. The amount of wars, the lack of modern medicine, no democracy, no human rights, no electricity, a ton of superstition, religious persecution, racism everywhere, slavery legal around the world, etc....

Today we have problems, but we are much better than people in past centuries.
 

Laptop1991

Member
The past, quality of life, more freedom, better films and TV shows that were new, cheaper prices, more variiety and i was a lot younger!
 

NeoIkaruGAF

Gold Member
If you were wealthy? It’s debatable. You’d have land, properties, slaves/servants, food, priority service, tuition. You may not even have to work a day. The law would judge you much differently than it’d do most people. And if you were a man, you’d be amongst the very few who could vote. Sure, you could always catch a disease, but good nutrition, a clean manor and the best doctors around would still give you a pretty good chance of healing, especially after 1850. Injuries would still be a problem, though, and wealthy people were prone to those like any other.

If you weren’t wealthy? No comparison with today. Sure, little social mobility would mean you’d get used to the cards dealt to you by chance and you could be pretty happy in spite of having very little. But when things went south, there was very little you could do.
 

22:22:22

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Whatever timeline you want to define, answer the simple question:

Was life better in the past?

Preface: thinking out loud

For me it depends on what I've been into regarding certain perspectives of our past which don't correlate with the general accepted timeline and past civilizations. I'd say better.
 

22:22:22

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
I liked my childhood through the 80s. But the best moment to live is the moment you are currently in, it is the only place you can make a difference.

Haven't all your previous decisions made a difference to the moment you're continuing making a difference through decisions?
 

AJUMP23

Member
Haven't all your previous decisions made a difference to the moment you're continuing making a difference through decisions?

Yes but the moment has past and the decision was made. Now you must move forward. Make a decision. Certainly the past informs, and future plans inform.
 

22:22:22

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Yes but the moment has past and the decision was made. Now you must move forward. Make a decision. Certainly the past informs, and future plans inform.

Indeed. It's great advice. Alas, I'm not particularly good at living in the moment mostly.

Still it's an free for all thread when we don't apply Rentahamster Rentahamster post and have a baseline to work with.
 

Trogdor1123

Member
I said better but only a bit back. The 90s were pretty awesome. Communism was gone but the fear of it remained, except the fear of nuclear war was nearly gone. There was great medicine still and people were fitter. People still had some sense. Our population was able to support itself through growth and people made decent money.

It’s the peak decade in my mind
 

Trunx81

Member
The past is better, because it´s already over.
The present is worse, because you still have to live through it.
The future is even worse, because this is where your worries lie.
 

Heimdall_Xtreme

Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
I feel that before there was more respect and education of women towards men, there were more values and respect.

Social networks such as Facebook, Instagram, Twitter arrive and have greatly harmed girls.

They think that because of a video, if the man acts in such a way, it has a meaning and is wrong.

I feel the current times are worse in terms of values.
 

analog_future

Resident Crybaby
As a 90s kid, the past was better. Post 9/11 has been a bit of a hellscape.


With that said, for many (particularly women, homosexuals, and minorities) the past would've been undoubtedly worse. Particularly prior to the 90s.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
Yes and No. Somethings were better, somethings were not.

As a white male though, I'd love to be back in the 90's. I recognize why others would not though.
 
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poodaddy

Member
In "the past" I wouldn't have made it to age ten. I had some pretty severe health problems as a kid that resulted in four surgeries by the time I was 14, and then in my later years as a young man I had a shoulder repair surgery, three foot repair surgeries, a stomach surgery.

Whatever you quantify as "the past", (pretty wide gap between the middle ages and the 50's so maybe it should be quantified more), I probably wouldn't have made it without modern medicine, so I'll take the present.
 
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