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Washington Bikini Baristas in Hot Water

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SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
Bikini baristas accused of charging up to $80 for fondling

EVERETT, Wash. - Coffee shops in the Seattle area introduced the world to "bikini baristas" three years ago, hiring attractive young women to serve up steamy espressos and lattes while wearing as little as a G-string and pasties.

But cities are now taking a closer look at the "sexpresso" stand craze after police investigations revealed that some baristas were serving coffee with a side of something not even legal at many strip clubs.

Five bikini baristas in Everett are accused of charging up to $80 to let customers fondle or photograph them as they put on erotic shows - sometimes in view of passing traffic. They face court dates on prostitution charges this month.


In images so graphic that officials were reluctant to release them under public disclosure requests, undercover officers photographed them spreading their legs while wearing crotchless panties or licking whipped cream off each other's exposed pubic regions. While such acts may not constitute traditional prostitution, authorities say they met the legal definition of engaging in sexual conduct for a fee.

"This is not Malibu Barbie standing at a coffee stand selling coffee," said City of Everett spokeswoman Kate Reardon. "We had citations for prostitution. That's totally different."

The bikini barista trend emerged in recent years as some espresso stands sought to stand out amid the heavy competition for coffee business in a region that is home to Starbucks. There are now dozens of such shops in the region, with names like Brewlesque, Twin Perks and Java Juggs. They're typically stand-alone shacks along roadsides or in parking lots, often noticeable for their come-hither signs - "some like it hot," for example - and a long line of pick-up trucks at the window.

The bikini shops have always stirred up controversy, with some cities threatening to shut them down unless their employees covered up. But communities have changed their laws in recent months in response to growing complaints that the bikini baristas aren't actually wearing bikinis anymore.

Snohomish County north of Seattle last month began requiring coffee stand employees to wear at least the equivalent of a bikini or face regulation under adult entertainment ordinances. That would mean tougher zoning restrictions and rules requiring customers to all be adults.

The city of Lynnwood has updated its laws to require employees to wear more than pasties and a G-string, and Yakima in central Washington directed its city attorney to draft similar laws. Everett still allows pasties, but has clarified that drive-through businesses are public places, where the caressing or fondling of the genitals or breasts is considered lewd conduct and can be prosecuted.

Bill Wheeler, who runs four Grab-N-Go espresso stands in the Everett area, said the new ordinances and negative publicity generated by the charges against his employees has cut his business by about 80 percent, and he has let go one-third of his staff.

"You have a bunch of church groups that got together and decided they just don't like women in bikinis," he said. "And in response a lot of these cities have decided to trample on First Amendment rights. It's sad, because people are allowing it to happen."

But at Java Juggs just outside Everett city limits, barista Jade Layng insisted business hasn't gone soft since Snohomish County started requiring the equivalent of a bikini. Employees there still make $100-$150 in tips during a six-hour shift, she said.

"We just wear lingerie, or bras and panties instead of pasties and thongs," she said. "We have a lot of regulars. They don't really care too much."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/05/20100205bikini-baristas-05-ON.html

I go to Seattle every year for PAX. Why didn't anyone tell me about this?
 

navii

My fantasy is that my girlfriend was actually a young high school girl.
they got themselves into some hot coffee
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
The fact that these businesses thrive speaks volumes about the pathetic nature of a lot of men.
 

equap

Banned
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Considering that the job requires baristas to sling around milk at temperatures of 160 degrees or more, I have to give the girls credit for being pretty fearless. I wonder how it feels to have your nipples scalded.
 

Dead Man

Member
While such acts may not constitute traditional prostitution, authorities say they met the legal definition of engaging in sexual conduct for a fee.
So... all porn actors are now able to be charged as prostitutes. Nice one guys, way to logic.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
ElectricBlue187 said:
no pictures? fail.
*sigh*

Fine.

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I'll have to link them out on Monday so no one gets fired. I forgot to include a NSFW tag in the topic title.

I'm wondering how these coffee shops got away with this for so long. Can you imagine if your local men's clothing store had bikini clad customer service reps? Guys would never leave the store. Also, isn't exchanging money just a form of free speech?
 

Mike M

Nick N
I work in Everett. Everyday I drive past a coffee stand called T n A Latte, with a signboard below it that says "Tasteful and Appropriate."

Thought that was a clever way to differentiate themselves in a city awash with bikini baristas.
 

Chris R

Member
Anyone know what a "hug" would be in relation to a drive through coffee stand? One time a barista offered a "hug" in the latte, but I turned it down... No clue what it was, and I haven't been able to think of anything that would make sense other than she was wanting me to pay to squeeze her tits or something :lol
 
This thread reminds me that the one by my house in Ballard was selling drinks for a buck yesterday and I completely forgot about it. Dammit.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Jenga said:
Get off the high-horse.

Men love sexy women, news at 11.
I love sexy women too, but I'm not going to pay extra for one to serve me coffee.
 

gblues

Banned
rhfb said:
Anyone know what a "hug" would be in relation to a drive through coffee stand? One time a barista offered a "hug" in the latte, but I turned it down... No clue what it was, and I haven't been able to think of anything that would make sense other than she was wanting me to pay to squeeze her tits or something :lol

I have no idea. Maybe she was offering to dissolve a Hershey Hug into your drink?

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Chris R

Member
gblues said:
I have no idea. Maybe she was offering to dissolve a Hershey Hug into your drink?

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They don't melt that well though :| I've thought of that before, but due to the poor melting qualities, didn't know.

I mean I guess she could have been talking about something similar, like a mocha with dark and white chocolate, but I was ordering a latte so... :lol
 

Rukes

The front page still gets no respect
Dan said:
I love sexy women too, but I'm not going to pay extra for one to serve me coffee.

It's for a good cause, a single mom to stay out of stripping! :)
 

SnakeXs

about the same metal capacity as a cucumber
The prosecutors are likely grasping at something they shouldn't with this. I mean, it could be worse, the baristas could be paid for grinding. Hopefully a big brew of justice is served in this case, otherwise these ladies will need some escorting off the premises. This community has some beans for starting a fuss over it, and they seem really bitter at that.
 
Everett? Holy shit, that's where I live! ... ... ... ... Anyways, I get my 75 cent coffee from a vending machine.
and the fondling is free
 

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SnakeXs said:
The prosecutors are likely grasping at something they shouldn't with this. I mean, it could be worse, the baristas could be paid for grinding. Hopefully a big brew of justice is served in this case, otherwise these ladies will need some escorting off the premises. This community has some beans for starting a fuss over it, and they seem really bitter at that.

Be careful.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19455483&postcount=19
 
Can I use this thread as a soapbox to state that coffee shops are fucking lame? I can't think of a worse place to take someone on a first date, the coffee is overpriced, at starbucks in particular the food is terrible, and trying to do work while dozens of people are chatting in the background is counter productive.

The fact that the demand is so high in seattle that these shops had to use half-naked women just to pull away each other's customers speaks volumes about how boring a city it must be. In a city with a good helping of good looking women (say, Miami), this wouldn't even work.
 

jooey

The Motorcycle That Wouldn't Slow Down
Sho_Nuff82 said:
The fact that the demand is so high in seattle that these shops had to use half-naked women just to pull away each other's customers speaks volumes about how boring a city it must be.
To be fair, it's not Seattle, it's Everett.
 

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Sho_Nuff82 said:
Can I use this thread as a soapbox to state that coffee shops are fucking lame? I can't think of a worse place to take someone on a first date, the coffee is overpriced, at starbucks in particular the food is terrible, and trying to do work while dozens of people are chatting in the background is counter productive.

I think it's fine as a date location -- you sit, you talk, you enjoy a drink. Probably not as good as a quiet bar, but most people don't want to drink in the middle of the day.

The fact that the demand is so high in seattle that these shops had to use half-naked women just to pull away each other's customers speaks volumes about how boring a city it must be. In a city with a good helping of good looking women (say, Miami), this wouldn't even work.

I think it speaks to the competitiveness of coffee shops in Seattle more than it does the boring nature of the city.

I've got to imagine that the Miami-Dade/Ft. Lauderdale area has at least a few successful Hooters restaurants. Using sex appeal to sell food works pretty much anywhere.
 
idahoblue said:
So... all porn actors are now able to be charged as prostitutes. Nice one guys, way to logic.
Porn is filmed and distributed and thus falls under art. If a lady blows an actor for a movie its ok if that same lady blows some dude in his car later that night its illegal.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
border said:
Hehe. Punishable. If they wanted to get rid of puns they would have to nuke GAF from orbit. Even the thread title was a pun.

Aren't there loopholes for prostitution? Like escorts, for example, where people pay for a "date". The sex is free, of course. So if you gave them a huge tip and they just happened to take their top off to cool down would it still be illegal?
 
goldenticket said:
Porn is filmed and distributed and thus falls under art. If a lady blows an actor for a movie its ok if that same lady blows some dude in his car later that night its illegal.

What if that dude in the car colors the lady's nipples with a sharpie, does it become art again?
 
SapientWolf said:
Hehe. Punishable. If they wanted to get rid of puns they would have to nuke GAF from orbit. Even the thread title was a pun.

Aren't there loopholes for prostitution? Like escorts, for example, where people pay for a "date". The sex is free, of course. So if you gave them a huge tip and they just happened to take their top off to cool down would it still be illegal?

Seriously... I've always been curious about loopholes in prostitution. The whole thing seems murky.

Scenario A - What if a girl (an escort) gives me a BJ. Then to thank her for the BJ, I give her a box of chocolate. But then I decide to buy back the box of chocolate for $60. Is that still illegal?

Scenario B- I buy a regular girl dinner. Then the girl gives me a BJ on the car ride home. Aside from being a perfect date would that also be illegal?

I'm guessing the second scenario isn't illegal because it's hard to definitely establish a quid pro quo. But the same could be said in the first scenario. Also is prostitution defined as "money in exchange for sex" or "goods and services in exchange for sex". If it's the latter then a lot of things could be defined as prostitution.
 
The Chosen One said:
Seriously... I've always been curious about loopholes in prostitution. The whole thing seems murky.

Scenario A - What if a girl (an escort) gives me a BJ. Then to thank her for the BJ, I give her a box of chocolate. But then I decide to buy back the box of chocolate for $60. Is that still illegal?

Scenario B- I buy a regular girl dinner. Then the girl gives me a BJ on the car ride home. Aside from being a perfect date would that also be illegal?

I'm guessing the second scenario isn't illegal because it's hard to definitely establish a quid pro quo. But the same could be said in the first scenario. Also is prostitution defined as "money in exchange for sex" or "goods and services in exchange for sex". If it's the latter then a lot of things could be defined as prostitution.

it's pretty clear, a business arrangement in which you exchange money for a sexual act is prostitution.
 
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