AHA-Lambda
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This may not be a UK thing and more a AAA thing though.
UK aligns well in trends with the US, it'd be very surprising and rare for a UK bomb/disappointment to neva rip roaring success in the US on the other hand
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Watch Dogs 2 launch massively down from WD1 in UK.
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This may not be a UK thing and more a AAA thing though.
UK aligns well in trends with the US, it'd be very surprising and rare for a UK bomb/disappointment to neva rip roaring success in the US on the other hand
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
How they show them off in the trailers does not represent how they are in the game. Everyone thought they would hate Wrench and everyone is now loving him.
RedAssedApe
Banned
A lot of the original games sales were right place right time.
People were starving for games post launch. No competition. Some strong marketing push for new ip.
Sequels did not have much of that in their favor. Too bad since both of these sound like better games.
Still blows my mind how some quality games have such terrible release dates and are sent out to die.
People were starving for games post launch. No competition. Some strong marketing push for new ip.
Sequels did not have much of that in their favor. Too bad since both of these sound like better games.
Still blows my mind how some quality games have such terrible release dates and are sent out to die.
Marmaladefire
Member
It looked like a bland "cyber hacker edge" version of DMC or some nonsense from the marketing. I barely even remember what the real genre is besides "Ubisoft AAA"
Not even vaginas could redeem it
Milly Osworth
Member
The next gen honeymoon phase is over. Maybe that's the reason.
There are so many games now.
There are so many games now.
Turin Turambar
Member
Yearly franchise? What definition of yearly are we using here?
Yep, this is starting to be a trend. and it isn't like those games were bad games.
Heh, with their games failing I don't know why Vivendi would want to buy them!
Triggerhappytel
Member
Good grief no. Aiden Pearce is probably the worst protagonist from any modern AAA game. I abhor him; he's a criminal, a murdering arsehole and lacks any self-awareness at all.
No, Brexit is not to blame. Otherwise how do you explain games like Gears 4 and Titanfall 2 having disappointing openings in the USA as well? Also, we had big sequels like Black Ops 3 and Halo 5 with poor launches a year ago.
I think that was sarcasm
GametimeUK
Member
Swap the sales over from WD1 and WD2 and the franchise in general has sold what it deserved to sell. The numbers for the games are mixed up, that's all.
Auto-Reply
Member
Too much story and singleplayer content!
I still have fresh and vivid memories of salty Destiny haters propping up The Division as their saviour. Hilarious looking back now, is anyone still playing the Division...shame, I enjoyed the beta
Could it be that digital sales are just increasing? Although 380k to 80k means roughly 300k digital. That's one helluva rate.
Or people are waiting for it to drop in price. Titanfall and battlefield bought getting pretty decent drops less than a month after release. Same with GoW4.
Or at least that's my tactic nowadays
Or people are waiting for it to drop in price. Titanfall and battlefield bought getting pretty decent drops less than a month after release. Same with GoW4.
Or at least that's my tactic nowadays
Brexit hasn't actually happened yet.
Roufianos
Member
I've only bought Skyrim, Mafia 3, Gears and B1 this fall. Gonna get Pokemon too.
Usually would have bought WD2, Titanfall 2, Dishounoured 2 and COD.
I can only speak for myself but I just feel burned out on gaming. Too many of my favourite franchises have dissapointed this gen. Arkham Knight, Uncharted 4, MGSV and Fallout 4.
Add to that, I'm really sick of open world games or just the lack of non linear story games in general.
Usually would have bought WD2, Titanfall 2, Dishounoured 2 and COD.
I can only speak for myself but I just feel burned out on gaming. Too many of my favourite franchises have dissapointed this gen. Arkham Knight, Uncharted 4, MGSV and Fallout 4.
Add to that, I'm really sick of open world games or just the lack of non linear story games in general.
GinoFelino
Member
Oh shit. Someone should tell the pound sterling.
Marmaladefire
Member
Apparently, Pokemon really is the only game anyone wants this holiday.
I'm worried for Horizon more than any other game. FFXV to a much lesser extent because even if it doesn't do gangbusters the base is there, and the merch sales and cross promo will be there.
Also: The game industry needs a "crash" right now, in 2016 like the US and UK needed to get rid of the "establishment government" right now, in 2016.
travisbickle
Member
The British public were rightly disgusted by the gratuitous nudity in the game and refused to buy it.
Horizon's back to being a holiday game? It won't do well this holiday.
Horizon's back to being a holiday game? It won't do well this holiday.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Hmm Horizon doesn't have much competition tho. For honor,nioh and what else? Out of those three I see horizon coming out on top
What? God knows what you've been reading because the game is absolutely nothing like that, a quick look in the official thread will confirm this but it sounds like you've already made your decision based on false information.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
That's what I thought. Whether it's a cheap ploy or not, I wonder if AAA game devs will ever attempt anything like Hollywood's China pandering to try to increase a global audience.
I'm not sure how much of interest increase you'd see just because a game isn't set in a NYC, LA, SF or CH, but it would be interesting to see.
EdwardTivrusky
Member
It won't be a major contributor but i think people are a bit more wary of spending money until the uncertainty settles.
That's the definition of all AAA characters in the last decade...
Give War A Chance
Member
It's starting to feel like *every* game is down from the previous iteration in the UK.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
We've gotten better protagonist in AAA games recently. Shit, Doomguy was a better protagonist than Aiden.
yes the perfect videogames open world shooty prota then
Caipirinha
Member
I genuinely think that everyone from hardcore gamers to casual consumers are bored and uninspired by these cookie cutter genre titles that have been released annually since the early PS3 era.
Take Assassin's Creed, back when the first game launched it was a genuinely new experience. Even if it wasn't perfect, it was an experience we hadn't had on previous consoles.
How many such games are there this generation?
The quality this gen keeps on improving but the innovation is still lacking and without giving us something new you can't create phenomenons and that means you can't attract casuals and you can't create successful new franchises.
Take Assassin's Creed, back when the first game launched it was a genuinely new experience. Even if it wasn't perfect, it was an experience we hadn't had on previous consoles.
How many such games are there this generation?
The quality this gen keeps on improving but the innovation is still lacking and without giving us something new you can't create phenomenons and that means you can't attract casuals and you can't create successful new franchises.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
That's what it is on my end at least. In October I bought Gears & Skyrim, and I'm still playing them contently. Right now my head is down financially, finishing up christmas shopping, with Pokemon this week my only gaming purchase planned for the rest of Nov (although to be fair, I bought three copies which is a bit of an outlier). If WD2 or really any of the larger releases this holiday had released more spaced out/different times of the year I would have checked them out, but I just don't have the time/have other responsibilities that prohibit buying all these games at once, it's too much. In December I'll probably start to catch up with Dishonored 2, & Dead Rising 4, but some of these games will go by the wayside for some time. Of course, I don't really think there's anything wrong if trends shift and week one purchases become less important to a longer tail, but obviously publishers want the biggest sales right now.
The only big issue for Horizon I can foresee for myself is I'll be putting money away for Switch but certainly if I have extra cash for ps4 games, Horizon will be top of the list.
NeoRaider
Member
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
That's the thing even alot of new ips have been having trouble especially from first parties
Hot Coldman
Banned
The first one was absolute wank, that's why. People ain't got time to give Ubi a second chance.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
There is too much stuff being released. Hollywood went through this same problem during the summer.
Marmaladefire
Member
Its got some space but the holiday is so crowded I can't imagine it not spilling over as far as people prioritizing when to buy what
I think a lot of people feel burned on new "inventive" AAA IPs. It's open world, there's no known colorful cast or memetic gimmick to run with, it has a female protagonist. Minus some cool looking tech stuff it's the anti WD2 basically, which I fear might also work against it.
Bruno MB
Member
What the hell is going on? It feels like the UK video game market has collapsed in the last few weeks. Every new release with the exception of Fifa 17 and Battlefield 1 is underperforming badly.
[Week 22, 2014] WATCH DOGS (UBISOFT) - 388,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2016] WATCH DOGS 2 (UBISOFT) - 77,600 / NEW (-80%)
[Week 22, 2014] WATCH DOGS (UBISOFT) - 388,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2016] WATCH DOGS 2 (UBISOFT) - 77,600 / NEW (-80%)
Poimandres
Member
I stopped playing the game after about 2 months, so I know what you're saying. But it's pretty apparent that lot's of people really enjoy it, and that they managed to turn it around.
I'm actually pretty excited for Destiny 2 despite being underwhelmed by the first game.
Give War A Chance
Member
This made me sad to read in this list of "negatives" about the game. Aloy seems cool.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Horizon has the privilege of being the next big Sony exclusive and Sony is gonna market the hell out of the game. It can also become another The Order: 1886.
There is a major difference between being down and selling less than ~79% (73% if you exclude last gen) from the previous entry in the series from 2+ years ago. This is nearly Titanfall 2 bad.
I doubt it, the prices for digital are still far higher on consoles. I don't know anybody irl who buys digital, unless it's a sale.
LukasTaves
Member
Pretty much this.
There's no way this game wouldn't bomb in my mind, there was zero hype for it compared to the insanely high levels the first had.
Dandy Lyin
Member
It's a shame, because WD2 sounds like it is a pretty big improvement over the original, at least in terms of story and fun.
I plan to pick it up on PC at some point.
I plan to pick it up on PC at some point.
mavericktopgun
Member
WD1 was soooooo hyped and was so bad compared to GTA 4 and GTA 5.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Actually, of all the games to buck trends and sell well, how the hell was it this one??