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[EmCeeGramr]

The thing that I'm concerned about, regarding the ending change:

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Dr. Manhattan's already left Earth. What will the people of Earth "unite" to do, follow him into another galaxy? Besides, everyone already knows that Dr. Manhattan is invincible and immortal; what good would uniting against him do? A big dumb alien squid is one thing; a god is another.

 

[Particle Physicist]

OK now that I'm hearing Ozy's voice the guy's not so bad.

yeah. i really like his voice. i think it fits perfectly.

 

[my name is ed]

The thing that I'm concerned about, regarding the ending change:

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Dr. Manhattan's already left Earth. What will the people of Earth "unite" to do, follow him into another galaxy? Besides, everyone already knows that Dr. Manhattan is invincible and immortal; what good would uniting against him do? A big dumb alien squid is one thing; a god is another.

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Ozy almost had it worked out. He at least surprised him

 

[AlexMogil]

Hmm, looks like they are going with calling the group the "Watchmen."

Not so sure. I found the recording kinda splic-ey. Like they pulled some words out of different phrases.

 

[Zabka]

The thing that I'm concerned about, regarding the ending change:

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Dr. Manhattan's already left Earth. What will the people of Earth "unite" to do, follow him into another galaxy? Besides, everyone already knows that Dr. Manhattan is invincible and immortal; what good would uniting against him do? A big dumb alien squid is one thing; a god is another.

I think it's more of a

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"Keep fucking around with nukes and I'll wipe out the rest of you" thing. Either way people are forced into action by fear of an outside force coming down on them.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Not so sure. I found the recording kinda splic-ey. Like they pulled some words out of different phrases.

Well...they say that Laurie is the "youngest of the Watchmen".

 

[polyh3dron]

Hmm, looks like they are going with calling the group the "Watchmen."

You just figured this out now... oh and BTW:

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There's no alien squid

 

[polyh3dron]

The thing that I'm concerned about, regarding the ending change:

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Dr. Manhattan's already left Earth. What will the people of Earth "unite" to do, follow him into another galaxy? Besides, everyone already knows that Dr. Manhattan is invincible and immortal; what good would uniting against him do? A big dumb alien squid is one thing; a god is another.

You missed the last page or two.

 

[StoOgE]

I can't tell if they are calling this group the watchmen in the movie or just doing it to avoid confusion in the trailers.

 

[Anton Sugar]

You just figured this out now... oh and BTW:

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There's no alien squid

It's not like it was confirmed anywhere else. Trailers are usually a splicing of things to make it more understandable.

And I can't tell if you're trying to be an asshole with your second comment or if you just figured this out now.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

You missed the last page or two.

Actually, uh, the last page or two was why I made that comment. Most people were talking about

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how the plan doesn't make sense because Doc is on the American side, while I thought that the bigger problem was that trying to unite against an indestructible superman is a bit pointless.

 

[polyh3dron]

It's not like it was confirmed anywhere else. Trailers are usually a splicing of things to make it more understandable.

And I can't tell if you're trying to be an asshole with your second comment or if you just figured this out now.

The voiceovers in the second trailer that came out approximately a month ago made it pretty clear that they were referring to themselves as the watchmen. Why do it in the trailer if they're not going to do it in the movie? That would be even more confusing.

 

[Anton Sugar]

The voiceovers in the second trailer that came out approximately a month ago made it pretty clear that they were referring to themselves as the watchmen. Why do it in the trailer if they're not going to do it in the movie? That would be even more confusing.

It's fairly common for footage and lines shown in trailers to not necessarily make it into the feature length movie. Lines and the delivery of lines can be cut or changed completely for a trailer.

 

[StrikerObi]

Now I could understand if

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the giant squid were changed to a UFO or something similar. That makes sense. The idea of inventing an alien force is the point, so it doesn't really matter if that alien force is a giant squid or a UFO or a flock of little green men. The Doc Manhattan thing just flat out doesn't make sense seeing as he is on the side of the Americans, even if he does leave them to go to Mars. And as other people pointed out, you can't unite against an unstoppable force. All the firepower in the world can't stop the Doc. He can blink the whole universe out of existence if he wants.

 

[polyh3dron]

It's fairly common for footage and lines shown in trailers to not necessarily make it into the feature length movie. Lines and the delivery of lines can be cut or changed completely for a trailer.

There have been several instances of this though, in the characters' voices as well as in WB publicity materials.

I'm well aware of things in trailers not showing up in the actual movie, like Bond with his MP5.

 

[Truant]

Really impressed by the new stuff on the site. Music is great, acting seems spot on.

 

[JdFoX187]

I'm still not buying all of this talk about the ending being changed. I think if they're going as close as they can to the book with everything else, they're going to keep the ending entact. There's no reason not to.

 

[polyh3dron]

I'm still not buying all of this talk about the ending being changed. I think if they're going as close as they can to the book with everything else, they're going to keep the ending entact. There's no reason not to.

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I'm willing to bet that the rationale behind it was that if they are not going to include the Black Freighter story and the subplot about the writer and artist being missing, then that completly eliminates the foreshadowing for the squid ending and it would come out of nowhere. It's still wrong because they could still make Ozy manufacture any kind of a fake alien invasion causing a catastrophe and it would work fine IMO. But there have been multiple reports of this ending that all match up.

 

[polyh3dron]

Now I could understand if

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the giant squid were changed to a UFO or something similar. That makes sense. The idea of inventing an alien force is the point, so it doesn't really matter if that alien force is a giant squid or a UFO or a flock of little green men. The Doc Manhattan thing just flat out doesn't make sense seeing as he is on the side of the Americans, even if he does leave them to go to Mars. And as other people pointed out, you can't unite against an unstoppable force. All the firepower in the world can't stop the Doc. He can blink the whole universe out of existence if he wants.

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also, if this were to happen then the US would simply be losing the very thing that has been deterring the USSR from attacking all this time. It makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

 

[Catalix]

Just caught the second official TV spot for Watchmen. They go with the "Someone's picking-off costumed heroes" angle this time. Much better than the first advert, I think.

 

[Freshmaker]

I think it's more of a

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"Keep fucking around with nukes and I'll wipe out the rest of you" thing. Either way people are forced into action by fear of an outside force coming down on them.

That makes no sense at all if you think about it.

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Manhattan could make every single nuke on earth vanish with a thought. He'd never need a hamfisted message like that if he decided war was going to end.

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

That makes no sense at all if you think about it.

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Manhattan could make every single nuke on earth vanish with a thought. He'd never need a hamfisted message like that if he decided war was going to end.

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I believe it's actually something like 60% of the USSR's nukes he can destroy

 

[polyh3dron]

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I believe it's actually something like 60% of the USSR's nukes he can destroy

this man is correct

 

[JayDubya]

this man is correct

Wasn't that his projection on how many Russian nukes he could stop once they were fired?

 

[Freshmaker]

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I believe it's actually something like 60% of the USSR's nukes he can destroy

That presumes they're already in flight.

 

[AndresON777]

I'm stoked for the movie. Would it ruin it if I read the graphical novel first?

 

[Costanza]

I'm stoked for the movie. Would it ruin it if I read the graphical novel first?

nah, go ahead and read it.

 

[KingGondo]

I'm stoked for the movie. Would it ruin it if I read the graphical novel first?

There's never a bad time to read Watchmen. Considering that the movie will inevitably fall short of the novel (no matter how good it is), I would guess that watching the movie first will tarnish your reading of the book.

 

[polyh3dron]

I'm stoked for the movie. Would it ruin it if I read the graphical novel first?

I don't think so... you'll rack your brains wondering how the hell this would even work as a movie and then you start thinking of the possibilities. I'm more hyped for the movie now than I was before I read it.

 

[Catalix]

Watchmen - TV Spot #2

 

[JdFoX187]

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I'm willing to bet that the rationale behind it was that if they are not going to include the Black Freighter story and the subplot about the writer and artist being missing, then that completly eliminates the foreshadowing for the squid ending and it would come out of nowhere. It's still wrong because they could still make Ozy manufacture any kind of a fake alien invasion causing a catastrophe and it would work fine IMO. But there have been multiple reports of this ending that all match up.

There were reports that the new ending was only a misdirection. If Snyder went forward with his plan for the other stuff on an extended DVD, I could see the original ending being in that for the "ultimate" Watchmen experience if the new ending is correct.

 

[Zabka]

That makes no sense at all if you think about it.

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Manhattan could make every single nuke on earth vanish with a thought. He'd never need a hamfisted message like that if he decided war was going to end.

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But it's not Manhattan doing it. Ozy fakes the message from Manhattan. Manhattan then goes along with it because revealing the truth would do far more damage.

On top of that, as soon as 1 nuke disappears Russia would launch the rest. He's powerful, but he's not God (yet).

 

[Anton Sugar]

Watchmen - TV Spot #2

I still can't get over how awesome Rorschach looks and sounds.

 

[Markster]

Watchmen - TV Spot #2

I'm just amazed that they're actually releasing an R-rated superhero movie.

 

[Freshmaker]

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But it's not Manhattan doing it. Ozy fakes the message from Manhattan.

Doesn't matter. Even then, folks would still know what he's capable of. It's a very sloppy non solution.

 

[ILOVEASIANS]

I still can't get over how awesome Rorschach looks and sounds.

Seriously. Got chills during that.

 

[Zabka]

Doesn't matter. Even then, folks would still know what he's capable of. It's a very sloppy non solution.

But he's not capable of that. If he was, he would have done it already for the government.

 

[YYZ]

isn't the decision about this movie supposed to be made today? What happened?

 

[JdFoX187]

isn't the decision about this movie supposed to be made today? What happened?

The hearing was canceled. Fox and Warner Bros. came to an agreement with lots of love and Watchmen fans get our movie this March.

 

[MickeyKnox]

I'm stoked for the movie. Would it ruin it if I read the graphical novel first?

You better read it before this abomination ruins it for you.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

 

[Xenomiggs]

Ugh, too far away!

 

[JdFoX187]

Hot. Easily the most anticipated movie of the year.

 

[Catalix]

Besides his physique, I think it's his long boyish hair that annoys me the most. I can accept everything else about him, though.

 

[StoOgE]

Besides his physique, I think it's his long boyish hair that annoys me the most. I can accept everything else about him, though.

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I think part of the problem with Ozy is they are trying to sell him as being brainy, and in the movie world big and burly and brainiac are nearly mutually exclusive. He has very little time to develop in the comic compared to the other characthers, so the "look" is critical. If you think about it, outside of the murder attempt and the last stanza there is very little room for Ozzy to be developed as the worlds smartest man. In the comics there is the magazine interview that sets him up nicely.

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

Does anyone else see the love child of Christopher Walken and Jude Law here? Everytime I see him that's all I can think of.... worrying.

My only problem with Ozy is that he looks too young, I know in the comic he maintained his fitness scheme and placed importance on his image, but for someone who should be in their 40s that's pretty optimistic. Maybe Manhttan also helped advancements in facelifts.

 

[hyonoid]

WTF ? Adrian is the son of Karl Lagerfeld.

 

[polyh3dron]

He doesn't look the part exactly, but he definitely acts and sounds the part

also, holy shit @ those stills. hype-meter rising...

 

[Davidion]

The stills look incredible. Here's to hoping that the movie doesn't piss all over the original story too much...

 

[The Lamonster]

I'm just amazed that they're actually releasing an R-rated superhero movie.

A little over a month! Can't wait.