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Coin Return said:
I just read the synopsis for this on Wiki.

Boooring. Street Fighter will get my $10 instead.
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MickeyKnox said:
Someone's first experience with Watchmen is one of those great moments in media that engages you so much that you want to share it with others, especially the ending, the impact of which cements the novel's place in the reader's mind as something truly special even if they haven't finished digesting it's moral implications.
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Look man, I read the comic and I liked it. But was in no way a religious experience.
Not everyone is going to have that same reaction.
 
MickeyKnox said:
There is no IF, it's categorically impossible for this to be good. Watchmen's greatness is inherently tied to it's execution as a graphic novel. Someone's first experience with Watchmen is one of those great moments in media that engages you so much that you want to share it with others, especially the ending, the impact of which cements the novel's place in the reader's mind as something truly special even if they haven't finished digesting it's moral implications.

The fact that a whole generation will have the book spoiled for them before ever getting the chance to go through that process of discovery is a just a damn shame.
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It also ruins the second time reading it.

I've caught so much stuff on my second read thru.
 
MickeyKnox said:
There is no IF, it's categorically impossible for this to be good. Watchmen's greatness is inherently tied to it's execution as a graphic novel. Someone's first experience with Watchmen is one of those great moments in media that engages you so much that you want to share it with others, especially the ending, the impact of which cements the novel's place in the reader's mind as something truly special even if they haven't finished digesting it's moral implications.

The fact that a whole generation will have the book spoiled for them before ever getting the chance to go through that process of discovery is a just a damn shame.
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I get what you mean but it'll also allow a lot of people that wouldn't be caught dead reading a comic to experience it. You'd be shocked by the number of people that are willing to watch a comic book movie but are put off by the idea of actually reading a comic.
 
MickeyKnox said:
There is no IF, it's categorically impossible for this to be good. Watchmen's greatness is inherently tied to it's execution as a graphic novel. Someone's first experience with Watchmen is one of those great moments in media that engages you so much that you want to share it with others, especially the ending, the impact of which cements the novel's place in the reader's mind as something truly special even if they haven't finished digesting it's moral implications.

The fact that a whole generation will have the book spoiled for them before ever getting the chance to go through that process of discovery is a just a damn shame.
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It's a great graphic novel and I'd even go as far as to say that it's a great piece of literature, but let's not go crazy here.
 
MickeyKnox said:
There is no IF, it's categorically impossible for this to be good. Watchmen's greatness is inherently tied to it's execution as a graphic novel. Someone's first experience with Watchmen is one of those great moments in media that engages you so much that you want to share it with others, especially the ending, the impact of which cements the novel's place in the reader's mind as something truly special even if they haven't finished digesting it's moral implications.

The fact that a whole generation will have the book spoiled for them before ever getting the chance to go through that process of discovery is a just a damn shame.
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Nah, not really. It might very well be good.

And no, I don't think it's a shame, especially if it gets more people to read and appreciate the comic and other good ones as well. I'm sure V for Vendetta did that too. I know comic fans often resent that movie for being so different from the novel, but personally I think it's a great movie on its own -- just like many movies based on books. And assuming it's spoiling the book for a whole generation is a bit much, since I'm sure very few are gonna pick it up and read it without prior knowledge about it.
 
ChrisGoldstein said:
It also ruins the second time reading it
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My second time through was a mixed bag. I did notice a lot of small details that I didn't catch in my first time through. But it didn't nearly have the effect it did the first time I read it. Anyway, not joining the big debate in here. Can't wait for the movie.
 
My favorite novel is Lolita. What makes it great is stuff that can only really be done in a prose novel format. And yet a very good movie was made from it, which changes a lot of details and completely changes to tone. Decades later, an "OK" version was made that was true to more of the details. Neither one would ruin the novel for anyone. The novel has not been diminished by the existence of either movie. Same will be true of Watchmen.
 
RoboPlato said:
I get what you mean but it'll also allow a lot of people that wouldn't be caught dead reading a comic to experience it. You'd be shocked by the number of people that are willing to watch a comic book movie but are put off by the idea of actually reading a comic.
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You'd be shocked at the number of people who don't read comics that have read Watchmen, it's not some unknown title that needs a movie to make it relevant in terms of sales.
 
Should I read the graphic novel first, or see the movie first? I just bought it, but i'm debating whether or not to start reading.

I know it's been asked before but I couldn't find it.
 
totoro'd said:
Should I read the graphic novel first, or see the movie first? I just bought it, but i'm debating whether or not to start reading.

I know it's been asked before but I couldn't find it.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!
 
MickeyKnox said:
You'd be shocked at the number of people who don't read comics that have read Watchmen, it's not some unknown title that needs a movie to make it relevant in terms of sales.
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Yes, it is, at least here. I hadn't heard of it two-three years ago, neither had most of my friends. It kinda takes you being somewhat into comics to know about it I'd say.
 
totoro'd said:
Should I read the graphic novel first, or see the movie first? I just bought it, but i'm debating whether or not to start reading.

I know it's been asked before but I couldn't find it.
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Read it.

And hey, on the bright side, it's a pretty quick read because once you start you won't want to put it down.
 
totoro'd said:
Should I read the graphic novel first, or see the movie first? I just bought it, but i'm debating whether or not to start reading.

I know it's been asked before but I couldn't find it.
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Read it, no question. You will appreciate the movie so much more I assume.
 
does anyone else not like the black freighter? I mean I like the symbolism of it and the parallels but it reads very annoyingly.

i kinda dread when i get to those panels.
 
Kastro said:
does anyone else not like the black freighter? I mean I like the symbolism of it and the parallels but it reads very annoyingly.

i kinda dread when i get to those panels.
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hear,hear.

I'm glad they've cut that out from the movie, and still kept it as a DVD/blu-ray feature so that the nerds can still have their complete experience while causal movie goers (and BF haters) can get the core experience.
 
ItsInMyVeins said:
"The movie is designed for the less militant factions of the Watchmen devotees, you know, it's designed for the guys with jobs" :lol
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That's fucked up. Lots of people just lost their jobs. He's clearly not a man of the people. And here I was starting to warm up to the guy...
 
Rorschach said:
That's fucked up. Lots of people just lost their jobs. He's clearly not a man of the people. And here I was starting to warm up to the guy...
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Oh shit, are we gonna go all PoliGAF in here now? :O

Get us a chart of how many Watchman devotees still have jobs and what the prognosis is, stat!
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
That Rorschach clip is awesome; that's basically a perfect translation of what's in the comic.
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2 things really bugged me. Rorschach never looks fully up at the broken window from ground level - he just instantly pulls out the grappling gun before he even sees a broken window. That shot looked hastily cut and hopefully it's longer and complete in the film.

Also, when he pulls himself up with his grappling hook, if it's just attached to the bottom of the broken window, why does it pull him up far above that point with such force? Re-writing physics laws is okay when it's subtle (like a guy getting pushed back from gunfire, which never happens in real life), but this shit is just ridiculous.
 
The Lamonster said:
2 things really bugged me. Rorschach never looks fully up at the broken window from ground level - he just instantly pulls out the grappling gun before he even sees a broken window. That shot looked hastily cut and hopefully it's longer and complete in the film.

Also, when he pulls himself up with his grappling hook, if it's just attached to the bottom of the broken window, why does it pull him up far above that point with such force? Re-writing physics laws is okay when it's subtle (like a guy getting pushed back from gunfire, which never happens in real life), but this shit is just ridiculous.
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I will say that I've always had a slight problem with Rorschach jetting up from the ground; in the comic, he climbs up the side of the building using the rope, and there's a practical reason that it happens in that manner. It does look kind of cool, though, so I don't fault Snyder too much for it.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
I will say that I've always had a slight problem with Rorschach jetting up from the ground; in the comic, he climbs up the side of the building using the rope, and there's a practical reason that it happens in that manner. It does look kind of cool, though, so I don't fault Snyder too much for it.
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Yeah I too wish he climbed up like in the comic, but I've known about that change for a while and I'm already over it. Maybe I'll get over the quick cuts and quirky physics someday.
 
WyndhamPrice said:
The more I see of him the more I like him.
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I think his heart is in the right place. He uses words like "cool" to describe things way too often, but I just see it as how he speaks. He understands what's he's doing, he totally defers to the book. He just wants to see watchmen work as a film. He understands that, if people don't like the film, there's always gonna be the book, which he holds higher than anything he could create anyways, in his opinion.
 
DrForester said:
I do not believe.

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I got to see that in theaters when I was a kid (practically had to beg my parents to take me - my aunt took me to see it instead). It was awesome, but for some reason I never got it on dvd. I should fix that. The comics for it in Disney Adventures Magazine (I think it was called) totally hyped me for it.

Hopefully, when I go see Watchmen, it'll invoke that same feeling.
 
So I'm reading the book now for the first time. Just finished chapter 3. Good so far but there are a ton of flashbacks, and things happening at various points in time so it's hard to keep track of when certain events happen - and as such, when some things happen in the present I still get confused and question if it's a flashback just because locations have switched, or we're suddenly in a new situation unrelated to before. Lots of character development and little else, but that's fine - does anyone know who is supposed to be narrating in the square bubbles because it seems like it's always changing...or not?

There's a lot going on, and for the moment some main characters have barely even appeared, like there is almost no mention of Veidt. The characters are still definitely endearing and very much flawed and humanistic. Why does Nite Owl's outfit look so goddam ridiculous? I seriously lol'd the first time I saw it from the back. Oddly enough, my favorite parts are the fully written bits at the end of each chapter - but this thing really does read like a novel even in the paneled parts. Oh, and I love how Rorschach just shows up at your crib and eats your fucking food while he waits to kill you.
 
Extollere said:
So I'm reading the book now for the first time. Just finished chapter 3. Good so far but there are a ton of flashbacks, and things happening at various points in time so it's hard to keep track of when certain events happen - and as such, when some things happen in the present I still get confused and question if it's a flashback just because locations have switched, or we're suddenly in a new situation unrelated to before. Lots of character development and little else, but that's fine - does anyone know who is supposed to be narrating in the square bubbles because it seems like it's always changing...or not?

There's a lot going on, and for the moment some main characters have barely even appeared, like there is almost no mention of Veidt. The characters are still definitely endearing and very much flawed and humanistic. Why does Nite Owl's outfit look so goddam ridiculous? I seriously lol'd the first time I saw it from the back. Oddly enough, my favorite parts are the fully written bits at the end of each chapter - but this thing really does read like a novel even in the paneled parts. Oh, and I love how Rorschach just shows up at your crib and eats your fucking food while he waits to kill you.
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Each major character generally gets a full chapter for their backstory, so Veidt will get his eventually.

And I understand your confusion as far as the timeline goes. I recommend giving it a second read-through after you've finished, re-reading it really enriches the experience.
 
Extollere said:
So I'm reading the book now for the first time. Just finished chapter 3. Good so far but there are a ton of flashbacks, and things happening at various points in time so it's hard to keep track of when certain events happen - and as such, when some things happen in the present I still get confused and question if it's a flashback just because locations have switched, or we're suddenly in a new situation unrelated to before. Lots of character development and little else, but that's fine - does anyone know who is supposed to be narrating in the square bubbles because it seems like it's always changing...or not?

There's a lot going on, and for the moment some main characters have barely even appeared, like there is almost no mention of Veidt. The characters are still definitely endearing and very much flawed and humanistic. Why does Nite Owl's outfit look so goddam ridiculous? I seriously lol'd the first time I saw it from the back. Oddly enough, my favorite parts are the fully written bits at the end of each chapter - but this thing really does read like a novel even in the paneled parts. Oh, and I love how Rorschach just shows up at your crib and eats your fucking food while he waits to kill you.
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I was the same, confused way.

And then it all made beautiful sense in the end.:D
 
It's still under embargo but Devin Farci from Chud.com has posted some 'pre review musings' and it's a great read.

While you may not always agree with Farci you can't argue with the fact he at least puts his point across in a well written manner.

But that aside.....

Devin Farci said:
Had he only done that, Snyder would have earned kudos from me. But he does more; Snyder had crafted a movie that flirts with honest to God greatness, that doesn't just capture the events of the comic but also the humanity and the emotion. It's a remarkable film, and an uncompromising one. It's the sort of movie that major studios are simply not supposed to be making now that the 1970s are over.
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:O .......:D

http://chud.com/articles/articles/1...ATE-NON-REVIEW-MUSINGS-ON-WATCHMEN/Page1.html
 
jett said:
Neither of them have superpowers.

Nevermind TDK's realistic approach to the whole thing. :P
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You're stretching.

Besides...there's one character in Watchmen with powers.



Batman's a superhero... his movies fit into that genre. Deal with it.

If we were to go with your criteria, Rocketeer wouldn't fit, neither would Iron Man. Afterall, they don't have any powers. They use equipment.
 
So basically, every negative reaction I've read so far is from someone who just doesn't like things about the story that were present in the GN, like the fact that Ozymandias has some weird looking pet, or "what's the deal with the funny blue guy lololol"
 
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