thekiddfran
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Wow GAF feels so different now.
So strange what a week can do eh?
So strange what a week can do eh?
I never realized how hated neogaf was until the server are down and I look around for possible substitute.I know it sounds selfish, but I don't want to be derided because I am on GAF. As much as I like some of the mods, I didn't come here for them or for Evilore or whatever. Quite frankly, I came here in spite of some of those people.
I came here because I loved the community, I loved the discussion, I loved being able to dissect leaks or directly interact with those working in gaming. Heck, I loved that GAF held it self to a higher standard. Where other sites can get bogged by trolling, nefarious shit posters, etc, the comparatively strict requirements to get into (and stay) in this community fostered cleaner, better discussions.
When people would talk about the 'cesspools' like gamefaqs, 4chan, or even reddit, whether right or wrong, it was generally assumed that GAF was above those places. When subsets of those places would make fun of GAF as a pedo/sjw paradise, it was generally considered nonsense from alt-righters or trolls. So now after all this drama, has GAFs 'position' in the community changed? I've always been proud to be a GAFer, but for the first time now I just don't know. I don't want to be part of a community with a 'bad' reputation, you know? Like I said at the beginning, I don't want to be derided because I like chatting with people about a hobby we share.
"I had no reason not to trust him still," she said. "It was a creepy thing, but I tend to give people second chances. He had already invited me to go to E3."
People have many complex reactions and feelings about those who hurt or abuse them. We've seen Evilore's history, we've seen how he's reacted since this became public. It all speaks volumes.Are you kidding me, interview to the world and she doesn't even call it sexual assault? "Creepy thing" is not what victims of rape and sexual abuse call their incident. This girl playing yall. "He had already invited me to E3, I couldn't just say no" Nah, y'all not gonna trick me with this "outrage".
Wow GAF feels so different now.
So strange what a week can do eh?
His reaction doesn't make him guilt of sexual assault or misconduct. It does however crash against the previous image he wanted to give to this forum.People have many complex reactions and feelings about those who hurt or abuse them. We've seen Evilore's history, we've seen how he's reacted since this became public. It all speaks volumes.
God this is depressing to watch.
Because it literally does not matter. She did not consent to him exposing himself, while he knew she had a boyfriend she was exclusive with, especially in a moment of vulnerability.
That she was able to forgive him (or rather look past it) later on and eventually get together DOES NOT MATTER IN THAT MOMENT.
If it didn't bother her, she wouldn't have made that post on her Facebook site (in which she didn't mention EL at all, so why would she lie at that point?)
People have many complex reactions and feelings about those who hurt or abuse them. We've seen Evilore's history, we've seen how he's reacted since this became public. It all speaks volumes.
It matters because the following behavior is not consistent with her claims. I can't think of any logical reason as to why you would have that kind of behaviour with someone who sexually assaulted/harassed you, but I can't think of several reasons that would lead someone to twisting the truth or only telling the convenient part in the internet. Look, I'm not saying she's lying, ok? I'm saying we don't know, and even if we take her words 100%, it still doesn't look like sexual harassment, though definitely misconduct that should be reprimanded, which she did.
I got into a fistfight with a guy in highschool. Year later and he's one of my best friends. Things don't always work how you expect them to.
Not even remotely the same. Are you saying getting into a fistfight is comparable to being sexually harassed? Don't go there.I got into a fistfight with a guy in highschool. Year later and he's one of my best friends. Things don't always work how you expect them to.
Did you fight him again? And go back to being friends after?
Not even remotely the same. Are you saying getting into a fistfight is comparable to being sexually harassed? Don't go there.
Not even remotely the same. Are you saying getting into a fistfight is comparable to being sexually harassed? Don't go there.
It's cool if you don't believe me - PM and I'll give his FB and mine.
Just saying things don't always happen as you expect them to. Don't go there suggesting I'm trying to equal out the two.
Nah I believe you, guys do this all the time. I'm asking did he try to bully you again afterwards, and did you guys fistfight and make up again.
Did you read other #metoo stories?Are you kidding me, interview to the world and she doesn't even call it sexual assault? "Creepy thing" is not what victims of rape and sexual abuse call their incident. This girl playing yall. "He had already invited me to E3, I couldn't just say no" Nah, y'all not gonna trick me with this "outrage".
Nah I believe you, guys do this all the time. I'm asking did he try to bully you again afterwards, and did you guys fistfight and make up again.
Where did she say that?It matters because the following behavior is not consistent with her claims. I can't think of any logical reason as to why you would have that kind of behaviour with someone who sexually assaulted/harassed you, but I can't think of several reasons that would lead someone to twisting the truth or only telling the convenient part in the internet. Look, I'm not saying she's lying, ok? I'm saying we don't know, and even if we take her words 100%, it still doesn't look like sexual harassment, though definitely misconduct that should be reprimanded, which she did.
Well, you DID compare the situations, otherwise you would have no point in the first place.It's cool if you don't believe me - PM and I'll give his FB and mine.
Just saying things don't always happen as you expect them to. Don't go there suggesting I'm trying to equal out the two.
Well, you DID compare the situations, otherwise you would have no point in the first place.
But regardless, the situation isn't comparable at all for multiple reasons. Were you already close when you got into the fistfight? Did you or the person was put in a position of bullying or humiliation because one side was clearly in a privileged position? Were you traumatized by the event? Did you start your friendship soon afterwards?
Not the same.
She didn't. That's the point. It didn't stop many people from claiming that's exactly what he did.Where did she say that?
With gamergate celebrating the demise of GAF on twitter and then coming here to concern troll, I have zero faith in the future of the forum, especially under Evilore. It's going to go from bad to worse, and eventually implode.
With gamergate celebrating the demise of GAF on twitter and then coming here to concern troll, I have zero faith in the future of the forum, especially under Evilore. It's going to go from bad to worse, and eventually implode.
GAF is not going anywhere. There's no other place like it $$$$
Our?Until the new forum opens up and the people who want to rant about their politics move over there. I can't wait for that to happen, so we can finally have our gaming GAF forum back.
Every mod left. All of them. All of the major OT posters quit or were banned.
Is it fair to even call this GAF anymore?
Every mod left. All of them. All of the major OT posters quit or were banned.
Is it fair to even call this GAF anymore?
It's not just about this incident. Evilore has a long history of assault, intimidation, and abuse. Even on here.It shouldn't be condoned what Evilore did (a clear misread of the situation). But the girl continued to go on trips to him and even had a relationship with him later on despite what he did. Is everyone just overlooking this fact? Clearly she didn't really take what happened seriously after the fact and it wasn't until she was a few years removed as an ex where she decides to come out about how offended she was about this. Come on man...
Not all of them left. The ones that left were primarily the ones that turned this website into shit over the past few years (namely, besada). Good riddance, I say.Every mod left. All of them. All of the major OT posters quit or were banned.
Is it fair to even call this GAF anymore?
Not all of them left. The ones that left were primarily the ones that turned this website into shit over the past few years (namely, besada). Good riddance, I say.
We had an official count of 12 who quit in protest.
We had an official count of 12 who quit in protest.
”Our"?
Piss off, Junior. It wasn't your anything.
Yea, with only 1 forum up right now, GAF will be fine, a tad more energetic. We'll call this attitude era gaf.
"Creepy thing" is not what victims of rape and sexual abuse call their incident.
evilore doesn't deny, repeatedly accuses his victim of being mentally ill and making shit up, and proceeds to blame everything on "all the politics".
What kind of pig jumps in the shower fully naked with someone who's puking drunk?
Anyone who stays here is complicit and contributing to a hostile environment where women are afraid to speak up. Have a good look at yourself in the mirror and see if that's who you wanna be.
Is there even a single instance of a woman being silenced on GAF?
Patrick does good work
just joining us, huhIs there even a single instance of a woman being silenced on GAF?
Anyone who stays here is complicit and contributing to a hostile environment where women are afraid to speak up.
Have a good look at yourself in the mirror and see if that's who you wanna be.
Anyone who stays here is complicit and contributing to a hostile environment where women are afraid to speak up. Have a good look at yourself in the mirror and see if that's who you wanna be.
Wow GAF feels so different now.
So strange what a week can do eh?
Okay, read that article.
Before that i thought Evillore was raping somebody, reading all that crazy stuff here from people.
Guys, he was just making a move on some girl he thought wanted to have sex with him.
Apparently he backed off when she made clear that she didn't want to fuck with him, like any dude with some morals should do.
I don't see anything wrong that happened.
Sorry, but a lot of people are completely overreacting here.
add: *slow clap* for the goatse account suicide...