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Weinsteins pass on CLERKS 3
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speculawyer
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They don't want to bother with such small amounts.
JoeyJungle
Banned
I thought Weinsteins just had right of first refusal?
ComputerBlue
Member
As much as I'd love to see a third, I pretty much have to agree with this.
PassiveObserver
Member
Thank god.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
He should try and make this one for $30 grand again
Gamer @ Heart
Member
The way kevin presented it in his podcast a few years ago, that is how it sounded. Kevin was hoping to take it elsewhere. Is he actually licked to Weinstein?
That and the red state outburst by Smith.
wait Tusk actually happened? how bad was it?
What was the Red State incident? And how was Smith right?
Smith basically worshipped the ground the Weinstein's walked on for pretty much giving him his career. They turned down red state so he made his own company even named Harvey boys after the Weinstein's.
He invites them to the first screening of the movie and Harvey is in the back shouting loudly watching football etc. during the first 7 minutes of the movie. So he goes into the back and bluntly says shut the fuck up and that offended the Weinstein's sensibilities and he left.
Last I heard (which was some time ago), Smith WANTED the Weinstein's to pass on Clerks III because then he could personally fund it (or get investors). They would have the right do it legally because the Weinstein's would actually get another chance to buy the film as per the licensing agreement.
The actors, particularly Jeff Anderson (and producer Scott Mosier), did not want to make a movie for the brothers because they weren't paid their promised back-end profits even though the film CLEARLY made money. It was shot for 5M, grossed 27M and had a big life in home sales. Smith's camp actually audited the Weinstein brothers last year.
So, movies probably not dead. Gotta wait till the next Smodcast to hear the full story I'm sure.
The actors, particularly Jeff Anderson (and producer Scott Mosier), did not want to make a movie for the brothers because they weren't paid their promised back-end profits even though the film CLEARLY made money. It was shot for 5M, grossed 27M and had a big life in home sales. Smith's camp actually audited the Weinstein brothers last year.
So, movies probably not dead. Gotta wait till the next Smodcast to hear the full story I'm sure.
It's not out yet.
He's actually making three low-budget campy horror movies in a trilogy he's calling "the true north trilogy". Tusk is done filming, Yoga Hosers is going into production later this year and Moose Jaws is being written.
That would be awesome.
I'm one of the few who likes Clerks 2 possibly more than the original. So this is sad news.
I'm one of those people, too.
Don't get the hate Clerks 2 gets, its just as biting as the first one.
Kevin Smith's stuff quality wise is pretty mixed. Clerks 1, Clerks 2, and Chasing Amy, fantastic movies. Chasing Amy being the best movie he made. Dogma was okay. Everything else? Not really feeling it. I also don't like he handled the criticism over Cop Out. A bad movie is a bad movie, issues on set aren't valid for diverting criticism.
Kevin Smith's stuff quality wise is pretty mixed. Clerks 1, Clerks 2, and Chasing Amy, fantastic movies. Chasing Amy being the best movie he made. Dogma was okay. Everything else? Not really feeling it. I also don't like he handled the criticism over Cop Out. A bad movie is a bad movie, issues on set aren't valid for diverting criticism.
Anton Sugar
Member
My dawgs.
His movies were pretty revolutionary for their time and opened the gates to a lot of great work, but that's the only way I can view them. Can't stand Kevin Smith.
speculawyer
Member
terribletwo said:
My dawgs.
His movies were pretty revolutionary for their time and opened the gates to a lot of great work, but that's the only way I can view them. Can't stand Kevin Smith.
Well you could just not go see the movie instead of being dicks about it.
Human_Shield
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Beat me to it. I've never understood this mentality. It's not like he's taking money out of your pockets to make it. Nothing you like will be kept from getting made, and beyond actively seeking out Kevin Smith news, you'll probably never hear much about it unless it turns out to be a surprise smash.
Yeah guys, small fan favorite movies being in the same theaters where remakes and superhero movies get shit out every month would suck so fucking much. Its so much better Clerks 3 never gets made, its influence and Kevin Smith's influence would ruin everything I like. If Clerks 3 was made, every project green lit afterwards would obviously be like Clerks 3, and I hate Kevin Smith.
A twitter post from 2009, that's pretty damn clever.
This is why they passed
I just want to add. Thank you Weinsteins.
A twitter post from 2009, that's pretty damn clever.
Mister Wilhelm
Member
Agreed.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Oh, they passed because the dude that's publicly and candidly talked about fucking since '94 talked about fucking his wife in 2009?
Davey Cakes
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He seemed really enthusiastic when he first started drafting the script.
I like Kevin Smith enough to want to see him succeed with his passions. I liked both Clerks movies thus far and would've been down for a third since the guy was really into it.
Clerks 3 doesn't come off as a cynical project or cash-grab. I bet Smith legit wants to do it and deliver a great movie to his fans.
BigJonsson
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KevinSmith ‏@ThatKevinSmith 24s
Via @Kitties4every1 "Will Clerks 3 still be made?" Heavens yes, just not with the Weinsteins' money. And all involved are okay with this.
There you go
Via @Kitties4every1 "Will Clerks 3 still be made?" Heavens yes, just not with the Weinsteins' money. And all involved are okay with this.
There you go
I really enjoyed 2 though I epic trolled some really uptight religious friends into seeing it with me. Moment that Donkey showed up sealed the movie for my enjoyment in trolling
DizzyCaffeine
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Just for the record, Red State was pretty fucking good. Smith still has some creative juice.
In a row?!
This is why they passed
I just want to add. Thank you Weinsteins.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
Team Filler
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I like the idea that Smith keeps revisiting these guys every so often, maybe like a lowbrow and jokey version of Truffaut.
PHOENIXZERO
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That transition makes me want to watch Clerks 2 again just to make a better GIF...
fucking bullshit
IIRC Kevin has a beef going with Weinstein ever since they were screening Red State and Harvey was talking very loudly and checking his phone during the movie and he told him to shut the fuck up
at least according to Smith they havent been talking much after that, which honestly seems like it influenced this decision since 6 mil is a wet fart to the Weinsteins and Clerks 3 would make much more than that
IIRC Kevin has a beef going with Weinstein ever since they were screening Red State and Harvey was talking very loudly and checking his phone during the movie and he told him to shut the fuck up
at least according to Smith they havent been talking much after that, which honestly seems like it influenced this decision since 6 mil is a wet fart to the Weinsteins and Clerks 3 would make much more than that
ChosenPredator
Banned
That transition makes me want to watch Clerks 2 again just to make a better GIF...
yes..all day..she's my biggest crush lol
You'd like trance
That transition makes me want to watch Clerks 2 again just to make a better GIF...
PHOENIXZERO
Member
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It's been in my "to watch" list for months.
It's been in my "to watch" list for months.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
We're taking it back
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I get the feeling that they are into some kinky shit. I mean, the dude put his own wife in Playboy.This is why they passed
I just want to add. Thank you Weinsteins.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
This guys movies are so bad. Every one of them feels like a school project.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Wasn't the first clerks short film made for class?
Also, mall rats is probably his best movie.
Grinchy
Banned
Even if I'm not a part of a cult following, I typically can at least understand it.
I'll never understand why Kevin Smith's movies have a cult following.
nintendork666
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A fellow film-school graduate recently asked me to list my top ten favorite films of all time. Chasing Amy made number 7. It's a decently prestigious list too; that movie is brilliant.
Clerks is also easily one of the most impressive directorial debuts I've ever seen.
bodyboarder
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When you've got money you tend to do whatever you want.
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