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This reminded me of a game that I completely forgot about, where Peach did indeed rescue Mario.

That actually doesn't look terrible - but 90% of that is probably my relief that it is not another "NEW but exactly the same music and graphics Mario Bros".

Is it too much to have new graphics and music in full price releases?

Back on topic, I think that is one area they can improve on to stay relevant - they need to up the quality when revisiting ip.

 

[Captain Toad]

PS5 is selling spectacularly well, but it will not be the fastest selling console in history next month because PS5's first August will be up against Switch's first December. PS5 can take the lead back in Nov/Dec. The different launch windows, spring vs. holiday, make apples to apples comparisons tricky.

Either way, they are all three (PS4, Switch, PS5) insanely great selling consoles. Which is currently most successful is determine by which metric you look at.

But, what is certain, none of them are being "dominated" like Marty-McFly is trying to say.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Keep creating compelling EXCLUSIVES and new IPs like they have been doing for years. That gives people a reason to buy and anticipate their hardware.

 

[supernova8]

I guess they just need to keep being Nintendo.

The only times Nintendo tried to keep up with the Joneses were with Gamecube and with Wii U (maybe N64 to some extent). I suppose you could say the SNES was also technically them still being in the power war, but back then they had practically no competition other than SEGA.

With Gamecube they got decimated by the PS2 so I'm not sure what to make of it, just bad luck and a case of the better man winning? I thought it was a good console with some great games, but they were definitely competing directly with PS2 and Xbox.

With Wii U, I'd say it was partly timing. It launched in November 2012, with essentially PS3/360 graphics (ie consoles that came out back in 2006), and the PS4/Xbox One were launching the year after. Also because of the terrible name ("Wii U"). I remember lots of people thinking it was an upgrade or add-on to the Wii. Also because the not-quite-there aspect of the GamePad.

The Switch definitely has a lot more in common with the Wii than the others. It's basically not even trying to do what the PS4/XB1 do, and it's priced lower (generally) so that even people with a PS4/XB1 as their main console might consider picking one up, and then anyone else who wants one can get one. It's just a fun device that deliberately focuses on gaming and almost completely ignores other media consumption (like Netlfix etc etc etc, as it should).

I think it's why we won't see a 4K device from Nintendo for quite some time. Maybe the next-next-gen device will be 4K. Think, Switch can't even really do 1080p, let alone 1440p or 4K. They probably know that trying to compete head-on with the others is a recipe for disaster.

 

[peronmls]

Nintendo makes game. Not games.

 

[Marty-McFly]

Either way, they are all three (PS4, Switch, PS5) insanely great selling consoles. Which is currently most successful is determine by which metric you look at.

But, what is certain, none of them are being "dominated" like Marty-McFly is trying to say.

Nintendo winning 30 months straight of NPD tracking is the definition of dominance.

In fact, no other company has won that many months consecutively of console sales. It's a record.

 

[Captain Toad]

Nintendo winning 30 months straight of NPD tracking is the definition of dominance.

In fact, no other company has won that many months consecutively of console sales. It's a record.

Please conveniently ignore that there is a chip shortage going on and PS5 and Xbox Series X are sold out everywhere.

The fact that you can go into any store and see plenty of Switch consoles sitting on store shelves, but never a PS5 or Series X should tell you why they're selling more. They have more stock.

Yes, their sales are impressive. But, until PS5 and Series X supply can even come close to meeting demand, saying they are "dominating" them is just laughable.

 

[Captain Toad]

Nintendo makes game.

And watch. Don't forget watch.

 

[Marty-McFly]

Please conveniently ignore that there is a chip shortage going on and PS5 and Xbox Series X are sold out everywhere.

The fact that you can go into any store and see plenty of Switch consoles sitting on store shelves, but never a PS5 or Series X should tell you why they're selling more. They have more stock.

Yes, their sales are impressive. But, until PS5 and Series X supply can even come close to meeting demand, saying they are "dominating" them is just laughable.

I disagree. Not only did the Switch outsell Sony and MS for years before the PS5 and XSX were even a thing, but the burden of proof is on PS5 and Series X to prove they can even do peak PS4 numbers when the shortages end, much less Switch numbers. Laughable would be blindly assuming they could.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Turn Mario voice into AI cause no one live forever.

 

[Dr. Suchong]

Nin-ten-what-now?..

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Have the guts to make a console with current tech that relies on games rather than gimmicks.

 

[PCS 7009]

They should just blatantly copy Nintendo and see how that goes.

 

[Marvel14]

Do you really want to bring that disaster of a thread you created back up?

What's with the Uninsightful Threads? The "Ya Don't Say" Awards.

There have been many "you don't say" threads this year. Here are just a few: 1. Console Makers failing in a competitive market makes for better products. Aka Economics 101. 2. Switch OLED is a worse upgrade than PS4 Pro. Aka the Strawman Olympics - Facepalm Edition. 3. Let's compare the...

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Do you really want to bring that disaster of a thread you created back up?

What's with the Uninsightful Threads? The "Ya Don't Say" Awards.

There have been many "you don't say" threads this year. Here are just a few: 1. Console Makers failing in a competitive market makes for better products. Aka Economics 101. 2. Switch OLED is a worse upgrade than PS4 Pro. Aka the Strawman Olympics - Facepalm Edition. 3. Let's compare the...

www.neogaf.com

You're one of those millenials that cringes for a living aren't you? Like this:

Hopefully someday you'll learn to respect that different people have different tastes and senses of humour - AND THAT'S OK, ITS A FACT OF LIFE

You cringe with my sense of humour and threads that take some effort to write yet you don't cringe with threads that ask in a single op sentence how the company currently outselling all before it in both software and hardware can stay relevant or that compare a screen upgrade with a SOC upgrade as if the difference wasn't as obvious as night or day.

That is truly baffling to me and makes me feel a little like this

But then I think "on top of it all this Captain Toad person stalks my threads and my posts to flaunt their misdirected cringe" and then I feel like this:

So why not just ignore me instead? That way we can both avoid a whole lot of cringe?

On second thought please don't. With this post I am starting to see the attraction of flaunting my misdirected cringe. Please don't stop.

 

[Kabelly]

Keep releasing Splatoon. I'm buying the 3rd entry day one most likely !

 

[Marvel14]

Please conveniently ignore that there is a chip shortage going on and PS5 and Xbox Series X are sold out everywhere.

Albeit there are severe PS5 stock shortages,

He didn't though, did he?

 

[Amin_Parker]

just keep doing what they're doing i suppose? they've been around for longer than both Sony + MS combined. Nintendo is 131 years old. Sony is 75 and MS is 46. And of course Nintendo have been in the video game console business longer too. Nintendo's first console was 1977. Microsoft hadn't even released Windows yet. In the late 70's + early 80's Sony were mostly focused on media (radios, cds/cassettes, video cameras) and selling insurance.

if Nintendo wanted to abandon Switch and make something completely new then they probably could get away with it but i think the smartest thing for them is simply to make a Switch 2. the Switch is a success so just build on that. put out a beefed up Switch 2 that can play Switch (1) games and has it's own exclusive Switch 2 games.

Thanks for speaking truth and facts about the first generation Home console released in the 70s by Nintendo. None other than the color TV console. You see ladies and gentlemen Nintendo has been in the Home console industry at the very very start of the industry. They started the same year that Atari started when it came to home consoles. This is the true system that was released by Nintendo before the Famicom and the Nintendo Entertainment System.

 

[KeepYourHeart1989]

Give Mario guns and put prostitutes in their games

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Thanks for speaking truth and facts about the first generation Home console released in the 70s by Nintendo. None other than the color TV console. You see ladies and gentlemen Nintendo has been in the Home console industry at the very very start of the industry. They started the same year that Atari started when it came to home consoles. This is the true system that was released by Nintendo before the Famicom and the Nintendo Entertainment System.

How many fps could that push? What was its resolution?

I wonder how many teraflops it had!

 

[Marty-McFly]

Please conveniently ignore that there is a chip shortage going on and PS5 and Xbox Series X are sold out everywhere.

Do you even read where I literally mentioned that in the opening of my post?

Troll much?

 

[Amin_Parker]

How many fps could that push? What was its resolution?

I wonder how many teraflops it had!

The console was released in the first generation of gaming so it did not have any teraflops.

 

[MrHydra933BR]

They don't even need powerful hardware to be relevant lol.

 

[dano1]

Build a home system that's more powerful than anything available!! You build it they will come

 

[Ritsumei2020]

I just found out that there was a Color TV-Game 6

Color TV-Game 6

Color TV-Game 6 is the first Color TV-Game and the first home console released by Nintendo. It was released only in Japan in 1977, and featured only one game; Light Tennis, which looked and played much like Pong. The game featured 6 different modes, such as the original, as well as others with...

nintendo.fandom.com

I wonder if it could do 1440P/144fps,

With Ray Tracing of course, everybody knows games need raytracing to be fun.

 

[Barakov]

There's no reason to change the formula that's been working for the last 38 years.

 

[Naru]

Add a second screen to the Switch.

 

[Amin_Parker]

I just found out that there was a Color TV-Game 6

Color TV-Game 6

Color TV-Game 6 is the first Color TV-Game and the first home console released by Nintendo. It was released only in Japan in 1977, and featured only one game; Light Tennis, which looked and played much like Pong. The game featured 6 different modes, such as the original, as well as others with...

nintendo.fandom.com

I wonder if it could do 1440P/144fps,

With Ray Tracing of course, everybody knows games need raytracing to be fun.

It's just more proof that Nintendo was in the video game industry making consoles first before anyone else. They are the granddaddy of the video game industry and they will continue to be in the video game industry making consoles till the end of the industry. They were here in the beginning and they are here in the present and they will be here in the future. Trust me they know how to remain relevant.

 

[GeekyDad]

...What can Nintendo do to stay relevant?

Turn the lights on in their offices each morning...

 

[YoshiMadness]

Well, Urban Champion was released on NES, GBA, Wii, 3DS, and Switch, all very successful consoles.

Clearly Urban Champion is the key to success.

 

[JumpMan1981]

We all know Nintendo is doing great right now,

But success now doesn't guarantee success forever! What can Nintendo do to stay relevant?

Depends on who they are trying to stay relevant with.

I think it's kind of obvious that on enthusiast gaming forums people are looking for an endless parade of new releases and hype for upcoming releases so that they can add to their ever expanding backlog.

I finished up the Hollow Knight DLC recently and have played around 60 hours in that game. To me that's several weeks work of gaming time. I think I'd probably only be able to complete 5 or 6 games like that over a whole year. Something like Breath of the Wild took me several months. I would consider myself to be someone who enjoys gaming but doesn't have time for more than 20 hours in a week.

So a game like Mario Kart would appeal to me personally as I can pick it up and play for a bit and then put it down again.
Going on vacation myself and the wife might play coop games like Overcooked or Good Job waiting for connecting flights etc.
Basically the people you see in the ads but more ugly.

I think for the general consumer out there a video game console is a luxury that isn't going to be played every day and isn't going to have an accompanying library of every semi-notable game that comes out.

Most PS5 owners will be using it for Fortnite, FIFA, CoD, GTA and maybe the odd exclusive here and there.
Nintendo owners seem to be getting Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and then there is a drop off with smaller exclusives selling smaller numbers.

My feeling is that Nintendo will always be relevant as there are always new people coming in to gaming.
Every xmas there are a load of young kids wanting their first console. Parents unlikely to be getting TLOU2 or RDR2 for their 8 year old are probably looking at Nintendo.

For people like us on here I think they are a company that is more than likely providing a secondary console.

 

[Marvel14]

The console was released in the first generation of gaming so it did not have any teraflops.

I think (hope?) they are being sarcastic...

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Well, Urban Champion was released on NES, GBA, Wii, 3DS, and Switch, all very successful consoles.

Clearly Urban Champion is the key to success.

"Urban" is problematic, please stop using that outdated term. It should be called PoC Champion.

 

[YoshiMadness]

"Urban" is problematic, please stop using that outdated term. It should be called PoC Champion.

This is painfully unfunny