Starlight Lotice
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Pokexit, that's what.
Wait so they're straight up admiting they want $20 more for 46% of a game? And lemme make sure I understand you right. This is happening to the latest game, Sword and Shield?
Has anyone come up with a theory why they would do this? Was it a forced decision due to less people working on the game...or lack of funding (not likely) or are they making it open world? MMO? There's gotta be something, why would they just destroy their game? Was there balancing issues? I mean I know there's a lot of pokemon.
developers aren't the entire problem. that wouldn't fix anything. this game stinks of Pokémon Company greed to high heaven.Gamecube games are still better than this, both technically and in regards to contents, this is pretty absurd, considering XD and Colosseum are from 2, almost 3 console gens ago, and 16-18 years old iirc
The only possible way to save pokémon quality is to hand development to someone else, and seeing how much this series still sells, this is impossible
If possible, SwSh will sell even more than usual
Exactly this. Imagine just joining the dev team at game freak and they give you a mainline pokemon project while all the senior staff who are supposed to be training you go work on another game. Do you blame the guy who writes the code? No. You blame the management that allowed this to be written by a "B-Team" dev.developers aren't the entire problem. that wouldn't fix anything. this game stinks of Pokémon Company greed to high heaven.
developers aren't the entire problem. that wouldn't fix anything. this game stinks of Pokémon Company greed to high heaven.
i must respectfully disagree. if the game is a technical mess, yes that is on the developer's management. Let's Go was definitely rushed out so they could have a Pokémon game come out in the timeframe they promised a new game to be out by (possibly another decision by the Pokémon Company) and give SWSH some extra time. that definitely took a chunk of their team away. plus as others have mentioned in this thread, Little Town Hero would have taken more of their team too... depending on the budget and time constraints the Pokémon Company gives GF, is that still the developer's fault?Certainly not the only problem, but a big portion of it
If the game is a technical mess, devoid of side content, this is developer's fault only
Tpc shitty marketing does the rest, as the dexit move is their, imo
" just cut 500 pokémon to thirst our fans about old pokémon, and to make buying future games necessary "
i must respectfully disagree. if the game is a technical mess, yes that is on the developer's management. Let's Go was definitely rushed out so they could have a Pokémon game come out in the timeframe they promised a new game to be out by (possibly another decision by the Pokémon Company) and give SWSH some extra time. that definitely took a chunk of their team away. plus as others have mentioned in this thread, Little Town Hero would have taken more of their team too... depending on the budget and time constraints the Pokémon Company gives GF, is that still the developer's fault?
They'll still somehow be worse than the originals.What I think is going to happen?
Diamond and Pearl remakes, of course!
Sigh. It's late and I'm too tired to be responding to all these same old tired apologist arguments devoid of any bigger perspective, so I'll just give you rule number 1 when working in a service industry:Hopefully the fandom will get over it.
I don't really get it to be honest. If there are really over 800 different Pokemon then it just seems idiotic to me to have ALL of them in every single game.
However, I would think selling the missing ones as DLC is extremely bad form.
I'd like to see them add updates that maybe secretly adds a Pokemon here and there once in a while.
Surely it would be preferable for the game to come out and for people to organically discover which Pokemon are in the game?
It seems mad to me that people are all over leaks wanting to know who is in and who is out. Why not discover that as you play?
Pokemon is one of those games that is always pretty good and very popular but the way people get so outraged and so upset over it just seems a bit too much to me.
I get that they have a very young audience but at some point those kids need to learn that you don't always get what you want.
It's one of those "good for all ages" games so it's really sad to see people just so mad and worked up about it.
All this shit about performance and whining about which Pokemon are in the game just doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of the game.
Like, at this stage, people already know what Pokemon is and what to expect.
That could be true, Fire Emblem 3Houses is not exactly looker either but that didn't stop the game from being absolute blast to play.Game looks okay, I've seen and enjoyed worse. The addicting core gameplay is still there.
Completing the Pokedex without transferring takes time, I bet when the game comes out only 1/3 or less of the players are actually finished catching them all 400s instead of bitching.
Competitive players would adapt to the new environment as they should.
So nothing would happen, I would even predict game will sold more than X/Y, nearing into 20 million range.
Pokemon Dick and Pokemon Vagina.
I think they really missed the growth of sales potential on the Nintendo Switch with their way of developing the mainline pokemon game.Game looks okay, I've seen and enjoyed worse. The addicting core gameplay is still there.
Completing the Pokedex without transferring takes time, I bet when the game comes out only 1/3 or less of the players are actually finished catching them all 400s instead of bitching.
Competitive players would adapt to the new environment as they should.
So nothing would happen, I would even predict game will sold more than X/Y, nearing into 20 million range.
Sigh. It's late and I'm too tired to be responding to all these same old tired apologist arguments devoid of any bigger perspective, so I'll just give you rule number 1 when working in a service industry:
The customer is always right
Competitive players would adapt to the new environment as they should.
Keep on crying about "apolgists".
FFS.
Probably let someone else do the game, like let Capcom do it, GameFreak wants to work for now in other stuff so they are probably tired of being a Pokemon machine..
Dont release all Pokemon in a single game, but make it in a longer plan, like te next set of games will have parts of the ones not released in this gen and no bullshit when trading. Also return everything that is part of the side game, like the contests and Amie, mega evolutions.
November 16th 2019, just a regular saturday.The new Pokemon games will be released next week...but after that, what's going to happen?
idk who but there def is a disconnect of decision making between projects. lets go was supposed to appeal to go players, clearly it didn't, then u have all the decisions around this game which dont fit their cookie cutter pattern. and even going back a title to ultra sumo you can see a stark contrast to these last 2 projects. who knows what they have in their head after this. i'm sure sword and shield will sell well.What was the fucking point of introducing new players to Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee if they can't even transfer even half of the mon from that game into SwSh? Let's Go Pika/Eeve was basically fucking pointless and a worthless cash grab sequel that mislead consumers.
Who fucking makes these decisions? Game Freak is the absolute worst.
idk who but there def is a disconnect of decision making between projects. lets go was supposed to appeal to go players, clearly it didn't, then u have all the decisions around this game which dont fit their cookie cutter pattern. and even going back a title to ultra sumo you can see a stark contrast to these last 2 projects. who knows what they have in their head after this. i'm sure sword and shield will sell well.
actually now that I think about it they always add features in 1 game only for them to never return decision making has been all over the place for 2 decades.
Pokemon Dick and Pokemon Vagina.
Consumers speaking out about things they dislike are called overgrown weeb dorks?
What I think is going to happen?
Diamond and Pearl remakes, of course!
Pokemon Dick and Pokemon Vagina.
Not necessarily. I guess they could add the Pokémon from the Sinnoh regional dex that are absent from Sword & Shield.Wouldn't that require the full dex to come back?
The problem isn't that it's not close the perfect. The problem is that it's not even close to adequate. Pokemon is the biggest media franchise of all time but their games look like some fan hack.Haha. I appreciate the banter but still I don't get the level of outrage over this and the shitty attitude towards people who are OK with the game just being whatever it is.
I understand that fans of something will always want their "thing" to be as close to perfect as it can possibly be but I don't see how people who are fine with what Gamefreak are offering are "apologists" or whatever. We are talking about a Pokemon videogame here after all.
I see it as a pretty simple situation.
Game Freak: Here is the new Pokemon game, do you want it? It's 60 bucks.
Me: Nah, I'm good.
The biggest problem are people who care SO much about all these terrible things going on with the game but still go out and buy it.
Someone who is happy to pay up and play the game is just doing what normal people do with products they want to buy.
Some people take this stuff WAAAAY too seriously and are way to confrontation with folks who think the game seems just fine.
The problem isn't that it's not close the perfect. The problem is that it's not even close to adequate. Pokemon is the biggest media franchise of all time but their games look like some fan hack.
People who are asking for more are not wrong.
You're contradicting yourself in the second sentence. If a fan cares enough about a game and they want to see that their voice is heard, they will not buy the game AND they will get their family, neighbors, and cowrokers to not buy the game as well. I myself am not buying the game, convinced the only two family members that play to not buy the game, and convinced 3 coworkers to not buy the game. They don't follow these issues and could definitely be considered casuals, but these problems mattered to them (as much as people keep saying that casuals don't care about the dex cut). That's how you get the changes you want to see.Right, but what those people need to do is NOT BUY IT.
There's no point in taking swipes at people who might buy it because they don't really care.
Whether it is adequate or not is entirely up to the individual consumer.
Nobody and I mean nobody is expecting perfection here. Specially not from GF. There have now been countless threads that touch on why people are upset at them and countless threads where it becomes a "leave GF alone!" scenerio as if said people were on their payroll. This is a gayming website, people are gonna nerd out either way. Tesseract out.Haha. I appreciate the banter but still I don't get the level of outrage over this and the shitty attitude towards people who are OK with the game just being whatever it is.
I understand that fans of something will always want their "thing" to be as close to perfect as it can possibly be but I don't see how people who are fine with what Gamefreak are offering are "apologists" or whatever. We are talking about a Pokemon videogame here after all.
I see it as a pretty simple situation.
Game Freak: Here is the new Pokemon game, do you want it? It's 60 bucks.
Me: Nah, I'm good.
The biggest problem are people who care SO much about all these terrible things going on with the game but still go out and buy it.
Someone who is happy to pay up and play the game is just doing what normal people do with products they want to buy.
Some people take this stuff WAAAAY too seriously and are way to confrontation with folks who think the game seems just fine.
You're contradicting yourself in the second sentence. If a fan cares enough about a game and they want to see that their voice is heard, they will not buy the game AND they will get their family, neighbors, and cowrokers to not buy the game as well. I myself am not buying the game, convinced the only two family members that play to not buy the game, and convinced 3 coworkers to not buy the game. They don't follow these issues and could definitely be considered casuals, but these problems mattered to them (as much as people keep saying that casuals don't care about the dex cut). That's how you get the changes you want to see.
If you're wondering how the discussion went, I found this to be the most convincing infograph paired with the question: "Which of your favorites were cut?"
I fucking HATE Quentin Tarantino's mandatory foot/feet/sausage shots in his goddamn movies. What a WEIRDO!That is insulting to Brap, dawg....