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What do you think the first Rotten MCU movie will be?

What do you think the first Rotten MCU movie will be?

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ReplacementPelican said:
So much hyperbole in this thread. 'Atrocious' 'awful' etc... TDW, Hulk and IM2 weren't good movies but to go so far makes me believe some of you can't have seen many movies.

Anyway, I really don't believe that any of them will but I can maybe see Ant-Man and The Wasp doing it because I'm unsure of how much of the first movie was storyboarded prior to Reed's involvement and I'm unsure of how capable he will be. That being said, if this was the case then Feige would not be asking him to do the second.
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Atrocious and awful are not hyperbolic ways to describe Thor Dark World.
 
guek said:
Here's a chart

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Really? Civil War over Winter Soldier?
 
Hot Coldman said:
it was meat and potatoes

your average critic who has to watch all the superhero films just watches that, goes "yeah it was ok I guess" and moves on with their life
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In my opinion, Thor 2 is just bland. It's not notably poor like, say, Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Batman v Superman. Like with those movies, I can think of numerous things to point to and say, "Yeah, that sucked." But with Thor 2, I can't really do that. It's just, I can't really point to anything that was particularly good either.

It's generally competent, but almost completely forgettable.
 
They've all been pretty awful so far. If guardians or the hulk haven't done it yet then I'm sure marvel is safe
 
Sorry Thor, but the first movie was okay, Dark World was garbage, both films were merely vehicles for larger, better movies and I'm afraid the 3rd film will suffer the same fate. I hope it doesn't but Thor movies overall have had a pretty bad track record. But hey, chin up Thor. At least your first movie wasn't as bad as Iron Man 2.
 
Familienoberhauptvogel said:
How the fuck did Thor 2 not get a rotten, it's one of the worst movies I've watched ever.
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Congratulations on never having seen a bad movie, ever.

Thor 2 is the worst of the MCU, but it's still an "okay" movie at worst. None of the MCU films even approach being truly terrible films, and if you think they do, you haven't seen any terrible films. It gets way, way worse than Thor 2. Hell, the X-Men series alone outdoes Thor 2 at least twice.
 
Watched halfway through Thor 2 last weekend and had to stop. Not downright awful, but hardly engaging. Actually kind of liked the Asgard stuff to an extent, but then Natalie came in my interest plummeted with each passing minute. I'll try to jump back in again and see if I can make it to the end. Need to motivate myself, but its mostly due its extreme mediocrity, had this been the abysmal trainwreck GAF covets it as being, I would have finished it easily for pure curiosity. Instead its just inoffensively average from what I watched(not deserving of rotten really).

Ironman 2 had lots of issues but Sam Rockwell amused and entertained me greatly despite the rest of it being kind of junk. Ironman 3 was a bit worse and my least favorite of the three easily.
 
None of those.
Maybe Spider-Man: Homecoming.
I'm amazed that Thor: The Dark World isn't rotten.
 
MattKeil said:
Congratulations on never having seen a bad movie, ever.

Thor 2 is the worst of the MCU, but it's still an "okay" movie at worst. None of the MCU films even approach being truly terrible films, and if you think they do, you haven't seen any terrible films. It gets way, way worse than Thor 2. Hell, the X-Men series alone outdoes Thor 2 at least twice.
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*cough* Thrice *cough*

Anyway, this is true. Thor 2 is an alright movie, it's just a shitty MCU movie
 
I think it'll happen, but not for at least a few years. All of the upcoming movies seem really promising to me.

Edit: Actually maayybe Thor 3. I'd say there's like a 30% chance maybe?
 
These movies are made to print money. Feige wouldn't let one bomb because then it would ruin the branding. These movies are focused tested to hell and back.

DMczaf said:
The fact that Thor 1 and 2 are not rotten makes me think critics will never let a MCU movie become rotten.
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. . . idk about these
 
guek said:
Here's a chart

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These two measure different things though.

Subpar Spatula said:
It'll be difficult because Marvel movies aren't graded as harshly. These movies get ranked up there with some really fucking great movies like There Will Be Blood, No Country for Old Men, Mad Max: Fury Road, Room, etc. (near recent examples) but there's obvious a quality difference. If a Marvel movie gets 80+ on RT I just assume the movie will be alright and nothing amazing -- sorry, I mean any blockbuster with the super rare exception.
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Reposting myself from another thread:

I'm surprised that people still misunderstand how RT works. 90% freshness doesn't mean it's being regarded as a 9/10 film, only that 9/10 critics liked it enough to give it a positive review, which can be anything between 6/10 and 10/10. If you want to know how good critics think it is, you need to look at the average score. For example, have a look at Unforgiven:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1041911-unforgiven/

We all know Unforgiven is a damn fine film, so the 95% seems justified.

Here's the RT score for its Japanese remake:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/yurusarezaru_mono/

Holy shit, it's has 100% freshness, that means its even better than the original, right? Well, not so fast. The original has a average score of 8.7/10, while the remake has a 6.5/10. Makes a difference, doesn't it? So the japanese movie was good enough that everyone gave it a favorable review, but at the same time the general impression was still lukewarm, while the original has some negative reviews, but in general people thought it was outstanding. I know the sample of scores for the remake is really low, but i just wanted to use this extreme example to make my point.
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I was surprised that the Incredible Hulk managed to scrape a fresh rating.

Iron Man 2+3 and Thor 2 I understand the complaints about them, but I still find them very enjoyable, but the Incredible Hulk was just so dull to me.

The action scenes were mediocre, Edward Norton (or the character he was playing, or both) was a bore, the supporting cast wasn't anything special, and the villain was boring too. I know Hulk doesn't have a lot of great villains that aren't just different colored versions of the Hulk, but it didn't make for a great plot to have a random solider wanting to get super strength, getting it, going crazy, and getting beat up.
 
Thor 2 and IM3 are already rotten to me, and IM2 and Avengers 2 are borderline. The idea that there would have to be a film worse then them to get a rotten score is disturbing and I hope we never see such a film.
 
I'm thinking Spoderman: Homecoming. There has to be a crapton of studio interference and unhappy compromises between both sides.
 
Mimosa97 said:
Both Avengers are awful. It's almost Michael Bay territory. Brainless action and over the top CGI. God awful plots. Ugh.

FIrst ant man was a good flish why would you think the second one will suck ? I have a lot of hope for ant man. Really liked the first one.
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Definitely not awful but overrated for sure.
 
I don't think Disney will allow a flat out awful movie. We joke about Iron Man 2-3, Thor 2, and Age of Ultron, but none of them are terrible movies, just mediocre.
 
I don't expect any of the films listed in the poll to get a rotten score. I don't love the MCU but even their worse films (Thor 1 & 2 and Ultron imho) are still inofensive enough to avoid the kind of response that a movie like BvS got. Black Panther is in good hands and I expect Marvel to pay a lot of attention to Captain Marvel.

Doctor Strange might disappoint though and if the Inhumans movie was still a thing I would have voted for that. I love those characters but I don't think Marvel has any confidence in them (as shown by the project being pushed back). Personally, I think most MCU films should be in the 50s at best with a couple like Civil War in the 70s or higher. But their movies are just not particularly divisive and that's why they just never trigger a negative response with most viewers. They always get at least passable reviews and that's all you need for a fresh RT score.
 
border said:
Iron Man 3
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No, that one's good, even if the army of suits is a little ridiculous. It has a decent story, good humor and action, and some cool new armor functionality where Tony uses the pieces individually. Definitely an improvement over IM2.

MBison said:
Iron Man 2 should be rotten. Seriously, it's awful.
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This is probably the worst Marvel movie so far, and it's not even terrible, just kind of insubstantial and unsatisfying.
 
Edwins said:
I'll believe Avi's getting Venom off the ground when I see it.
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Actually, this is my new vote: Avi Arad hasn't been involved with the MCU since the Incredible Hulk in 2008, and the next time Arad becomes involved will be the first Rotten MCU film. After his extremely minor involvement with the MGSV fiasco I'm convinced that he's an extremely negative influence on any and everything.

And yeah, Sony/Avi pushing for a Venom movie (or anything Venom related) will be what kills the MCU. I'm sure of it. It's a ticking time bomb at this point.

kewlmyc said:
I don't think Disney will allow a flat out awful movie. We joke about Iron Man 2-3, Thor 2, and Age of Ultron, but none of them are terrible movies, just mediocre.
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in videogame and general nerd/geek subculture the distance between 1 and 8 is much shorter than the distance between 8 and 10
 
Gun Animal said:
Actually, this is my new vote: Avi Arad hasn't been involved with the MCU since the Incredible Hulk in 2008, and the next time Arad becomes involved will be the first Rotten MCU film. After his extremely minor involvement with the MGSV fiasco I'm convinced that he's an extremely negative influence on any and everything.

And yeah, Sony/Avi pushing for a Venom movie (or anything Venom related) will be what kills the MCU. I'm sure of it. It's a ticking time bomb at this point.



in videogame and general nerd/geek subculture the space between 1 and 8 is much shorter than the distance between 8 and 10
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Avi Arad has zero influence on the MCU. Venom means less than nothing whether it gets made or not.
 
OCDChewie said:
It's hard to believe that Thor 2 was never rotten. If that didn't fail to achieve fresh status, I have little faith that any Marvel movie will.

The next Thor or Black Panther would get my votes if I thought it would happen.
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Thor 2 is one of the very worst movies in the genre.

Critics are all about that MCU dick riding.
 
BadAss2961 said:
Yup.

A long line of forgettable blockbusters that look budget half the time.
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The "like a TV show" criticism doesn't make sense. Flash, Gotham, Arrow, Supergirl, Daredevil are TV shows, their CGI is complete trash next to IM3, AoU, or CW.

SwolBro said:
does it really matter though? at this point is RT even credible?



I can't believe a lot of shit on RT. It's lost all credibility with me
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That's not how RT works, it's not metacritic. 90% of critics could agree that your movie is just decent and it will get a high RT score.

As flawed as the narrative was for AoU and Thor 2, they still aren't nearly as bad as dreck like BvS, and their action scenes are a clear step above.
 
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