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To be perfectly honest, it sounds like you should wait. If you're knee deep in Witcher 3 then get through that and see where you stand. It doesn't sound like there's that may exclusives available right now that really justifies the price.
 
CybernatonEvolution said:
Why isn't Nier 2 on your list? You should get permanently banned from all console services.

Someone brought up indies and Vita stuff. I wish they would release something like Castlevania HoD and Dragon's Crown on PS4.
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Why should the sequel of a 68% MC score game with dubious graphics be a system seller for a normal person?
 
The way the industry was say, five years ago, one could reasonably argue that owning at least one console in addition to a PC was necessary in order to not miss out on a variety of first-party and third-party exclusives. Today, I feel that if someone already has a capable gaming PC then the purchase of any console should only be considered if said console's first-party lineup is really, really strong. Neither the PS4 nor the XB1 have reached that place yet. You will find a lot of people here on GAF and elsewhere that consider games like Killzone, Knack, Driveclub, The Order to be fantastic experiences but the general consensus seems to be that only Bloodborne and to a much lesser extent Infamous are what we call "system sellers".

This is why I believe that anyone looking to add a console to his/her gaming systems should wait at least a couple more years for more games to be released, for the hardware to be revised and for its price to drop. Having a console and buying a PC provides the user with multiple and immediate benefits, the opposite is solely judged on the strength of the first-party library. So my advice is this: wait two more years for the first-party library to fill up, see how many games interest you and make a decision then. You will have made an informed decision based on released games and you will have saved money on both the hardware and the games.
 
I took advantage of that Amazon exploit to get a *really* great deal on my PS4, which is why I jumped on one and didn't wait a year or so. Realistically, the lineup right now isn't exactly super strong, but I do think it's got a lot of strong games coming out that will hopefully justify the purchase, and I'm quite happy to get to play Bloodborne in the meantime(though I'm still waiting a bit, hoping for FROM to fix performance issues).

Right now, the games I'm most excited about having a PS4 to play(that are available) are

Bloodborne
The Last of Us Remastered

I also bought Killzone and DriveClub, both quite cheap and mainly just to check out some eye candy. Neither are particularly special to me, though DriveClub may be quite good for those who enjoy these types of racers. I'll probably get Infamous and The Order at some point for the same reason, but only when I can get them cheaper.

Games I'm looking forward to

Gran Turismo 7(a big one for me)
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Rime
Final Fantasy XV(if it stays console exclusive)
Kingdom Hearts III(same deal)
Tearaway Unfolded
Persona 5
Horizon

It'll also be nice to play some Madden.
 
Bloodborne, Driveclub, Resogun, Infamous First Light, The Last of Us Remastered and that's about it. Destiny is also worth a playthrough if you've got a buddy or two to play with.

Coming soon Tearaway is a must have and I platinumed it on Vita. Great game.
 
It's just Bloodborne, really. I would wait a while for it to build up a bigger exclusive library and get a price drop. I've had one since day 1 and should have waited. Pretty much every third party game I'd rather play on PC (yes, including Batman).
 
Solid Samus said:
And I don't agree with this sentiment too much. "As much as some pc skeptics refuse to believe", most games don't give you any problems whatsoever on PC and usually run just fine, and plenty of people aren't as demanding as enthusiast gamers and don't see a need to put in the time to max out their game to where they want it. It's pretty much just as easy to game on a PC as it is to game on a console in most cases, these days.
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'most' and 'pretty much'...it sounds like you are agreeing with me, lol.
 
The situation is pretty much as I thought then. There are 3-4 titles of interest at the moment and there should be several more next year.I think I will keep an eye on deals and try and pick up a ps4 in the next couple of months, though there isnt a massive sense of urgency at the moment. I actually think it is foolish to wait until there are circa 10 titles of interest, as when you do buy the console you have a seriously daunting backlog to start with. I have put a few things on ebay to start rustlnig up some of the funds!
 
Bloodborne for now .

Persona 5 end of this year .

Horizon Zero and Uncharted 4 next year . Greatness await , shit I'm sounding like PR . But tbh those are the killers .
 
I've wanted a PS4 for a while now.

but got a new house, and lots of repairs going on. I am in debt. 20 K in a house, 5 K on a car, 4 K on credit cards (how that ever happened?) with a 2.5 K Mo. salary

PS4 is $USD500 here

I have a decent pc (not top of the line) i5, 8 GB ram, R9 290, and it can play pretty much anything.

So, even tho I can get a PS4, I have to use a CC, and I don't want to. It can wait.
 
Untalkative_Bunny said:
'most' and 'pretty much'...it sounds like you are agreeing with me, lol.
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nah man, that 'most'/'usually' represents thousands of games that work just fine on PC, as opposed to dozens. the narrative that PC gaming is this hellhole of tweaking and troubleshooting is absolutely insane to me. If I installed every single one of the hundred or so games I own on Steam odds are not even a single one would give me problems, until I start tweaking them for max performance myself. If I weren't as sensitive to framerate and didn't desire to push my hardware the way I do, then it'd take me about as much effort to play any given PC game as it does for me to play any given PS4 game.
 
Solid Samus said:
hardly, that 'most'/'usually' represents thousands of games that work just fine, as opposed to dozens. the narrative that PC gaming is this hellhole of tweaking and troubleshooting is absolutely insane to me.
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Without going to the hyper bowl, I'd say that the desktop environment can feel like one with more distractions and loose ends when one is used to a console. Just the way a console environment seems restrictive and cloying when you are used to a desktop environment.
 
I like Final Fantasy Type 0 and plan on picking up Bloodborne soonish. Played Last of Us Remastered since the PS3 version killed my bluray drive in the old console as well. That's about it.

I also have a PS3 fight stick that doesn't work on my PC so I bought MK X on PS4 but that's not exactly an exclusive. I just like using the fight stick.
 
SonyToo!™;170814902 said:
Good point however I rarely sell my games, generally if a game is worth paying decent money for it's a keeper for me even if I don't touch it for another year. Other games I'll buy cheap so aren't worth selling anyway. Physical for me is important for niche games that become expensive and over priced collectors items further down the road, as long as Steam is around it's not really a factor for PC.
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See, originally I felt the same re rarely selling games, but seriously, since I started doing it last year (after 20 years of gaming), I really don't miss having the physical object. I always saw myself as a 'collector', but you really don't miss it once you start selling them off. You forget you ever had the game, but you keep that sense of satisfaction that you really enjoyed it (or didn't!).

And a year down the line, when you fancy playing it again, you can get it for £5-10 anyway, so you've still saved like £15-20 on your original day-one purchase.

SonyToo!™;170814902 said:
Yeah consoles will always have the edge for competitive games that are traditionally console. Even with single player arcade games like shmups there are highscore leaderboards where you have ppl taxing their PC by fraps-ing their "superplays" and slowing down the speed the game plays at. Just look at early Jamestown replays it's a mess.
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It's very interesting indeed. I always felt that consoles would never die out, but this is a new bolt in that argument for me.
 
As a somewhat new PC gamer (started in 2011) who grew up with consoles, I can't believe people think PC requires you to tweak your games all the time. Booting up my PC and clicking the game I want to play is just as quick and easy as with a console, really. I still love consoles, precisely because of their exclusives, but this is a particularly weak argument against PC.

On a related note, loading times are so much better on PC.
 
RM8 said:
As a somewhat new PC gamer (started in 2011) who grew up with consoles, I can't believe people think PC requires you to tweak your games all the time. Booting up my PC and clicking the game I want to play is just as quick and easy as with a console, really. I still love consoles, precisely because of their exclusives, but this is a particularly weak argument against PC.

On a related note, loading times are so much better on PC.
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I think a caveat on almost every pro-PC argument is that you can always follow them up with the phrase 'if your PC is good enough'. Eg:

'On PC you don't need to tweak your games all the time (if your PC is good enough).

'On PC, loading times are so much better on PC (if your PC is good enough)

And to run modern, AAA games, with these benefits, it costs a lot. In the UK it's far over not being worth it against getting console games, especially if you trade them in a lot.

Also I know people who have had to tweak PC games loads even when they've had insanely beefy machines. That's my fear with PC gaming - and a fear which I've had become reality in the past - that for whatever one-in-a-million, esoteric reason, your machine can just decide not to run shit, or encounter surreal, almost one-off issues. I've had such horrible experiences in the past I just decided to drop it and focus on console, I did this about 10 years ago and generally I couldn't be happier.
 
DXLelouch153 said:
The Final Fantasy 7 Remake
The Last Guardian
Shenmue 3
Bloodborne
Kingdom Hearts 3
FFXV
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I doubt even half of those don't end up on the PC.
The days when publishers could afford to put a AAA title out on a single console and expect to make their money back are long gone.

If Sony aren't picking up the pay cheque, it's not ending up as a PS4 exclusive.
 
SomTervo said:
I think a caveat on almost every pro-PC argument is that you can always follow them up with the phrase 'if your PC is good enough'. Eg:

'On PC you don't need to tweak your games all the time (if your PC is good enough).

'On PC, loading times are so much better on PC (if your PC is good enough)

And to run modern, AAA games, with these benefits, it costs a lot. In the UK it's far over not being worth it against getting console games, especially if you trade them in a lot.

Also I know people who have had to tweak PC games loads even when they've had insanely beefy machines. That's my fear with PC gaming - and a fear which I've had become reality in the past - that for whatever one-in-a-million, esoteric reason, your machine can just decide not to run shit, or encounter surreal, almost one-off issues. I've had such horrible experiences in the past I just decided to drop it and focus on console, I did this about 10 years ago and generally I couldn't be happier.
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I understand where you're coming from.

However, the PC gaming landscape is a COMPLETELY different beast altogether now than it was in 2005.

If someone tells you they spent more time trying to fix a game than how long it took them to beat it, they're exaggerating or lying.
 
Solid Samus said:
convenience, a lower cost of entry for modern gaming, and a couple of high quality exclusives.
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You can get a good PC for the cost of PS4 and the games are so much cheaper on PC that you'll save the whole sum in probably a year. Convenience is long gone from consoles. You'll be updating your shit all the time.
 
And this is the question I keep asking myself every time I want to get a new game for my PS4, bought because 50% "Ps3 died, let's upgrade", 50% " Money is burning me and I need to spend it". After I was done with Bloodborne, and everything I wanted to buy still ran fine on my i5 and was cheaper... Ended getting Destiny. Not sure if I regret that decision now.
 
I was going to ask something along the same lines; is there anything I can play multiplayer with my mates on a Friday night which I can't on PC on the same machine? At the moment we mainly play PES 2007 (we aren't into football so don't care about the teams but it's a fun game) and Halo with the occasional Nazi Zombies on Black Ops thrown in (although my friends a bit obsessed and I grew bored of it quickly).

Also the PS4 is region free isn't it so I can import Persona 5 if it comes out in the US first?
 
Infamous Second Son
Killzone
The Last of Us Remastered
DriveClub
Uncharted 4
Ratchet & Clank
Bloodborne
The Last Guardian
FF7 Remake
Rime
Horizon Zero Dawn
Persona 5
Batman Arkham Knight (sorry couldn't resist that one)

To name a few things that aren't on PC.

But why not get have both, great exclusives on both and you can choose which platform suits you better when it comes to multi-platform games, best of both worlds.
 
I am considering selling my PS4 and getting it when the price drops near the launch of Uncharted 4. I don't play any of From Software's games so I am not missing much. I can get GTA, Don Bradman Cricket and Fallout on PC
 
I enjoy my PS4. The OS is absolutely fantastic and the games look pretty on it. The controller is incredible too. But let's be honest, and give OP the truth -he is right. There is no real reason to purchase a PS4 at the moment unless you are a big fan of the few exclusives that have been released since it was released.
 
Yautja_Warrior said:
FF7 Remake
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Why do people think FF7RE is going to be a PS4 exclusive in absence of any information?

Depending on the extent of the changes made I wouldn't even be surprised if it ended up on Mobile.

EDIT: Also when list warring, try to not make half your list things that aren't out and of unknown quality.
 
Yautja_Warrior said:
Infamous Second Son
Killzone
The Last of Us Remastered
DriveClub
Uncharted 4
Ratchet & Clank
Bloodborne
The Last Guardian
FF7 Remake
Rime
Horizon Zero Dawn
Persona 5
Batman Arkham Knight (sorry couldn't resist that one)

To name a few things that aren't on PC.

But why not get have both, great exclusives on both and you can choose which platform suits you better when it comes to multi-platform games, best of both worlds.
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most of your list isn't on PS4 either (yet.). Not exactly a glowing endorsement for a platform.
 
StrongBlackVine said:
JRPGs and Sony first party games.
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jim2point0 said:
Reasons why I would get a PS4 right now:
Bloodborne
Infamous (maybe....)

For me, that list just isn't big enough yet.

Reasons why I would get a PS4 in the future:
FF7 Remake
Horizons
The Last Guardian
Kingdom Hearts 3

If Destiny actually turned out to be the game I thought it would be, then I'd already own one. But.... looks like I'll be waiting a bit longer.
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1st Course said:
You can see a list of PS4 games here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tation_4_games

Games that are marked with "Yes" under the exclusive table are games that only available on PS4 and no other platform period.
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jaxapollo said:
Remote Play. Playing all games wherever you go with LTE tethering.
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All deeezz meats.


Caronte said:
I'll never understand why people need to ask for reasons to buy things. If you don't have a reason don't buy it and keep the money for something else.
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Also this.
 
SomTervo said:
I think a caveat on almost every pro-PC argument is that you can always follow them up with the phrase 'if your PC is good enough'. Eg:

'On PC you don't need to tweak your games all the time (if your PC is good enough).

'On PC, loading times are so much better on PC (if your PC is good enough)

And to run modern, AAA games, with these benefits, it costs a lot. In the UK it's far over not being worth it against getting console games, especially if you trade them in a lot.

Also I know people who have had to tweak PC games loads even when they've had insanely beefy machines. That's my fear with PC gaming - and a fear which I've had become reality in the past - that for whatever one-in-a-million, esoteric reason, your machine can just decide not to run shit, or encounter surreal, almost one-off issues. I've had such horrible experiences in the past I just decided to drop it and focus on console, I did this about 10 years ago and generally I couldn't be happier.
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I'm using an Alienware Alpha, which is basically an entry level gaming PC. It turns out it outperforms PS4 in lots of games, and you can build something better for much, much cheaper. I have bought a total of zero games I can't run perfectly, stuff like Batman is hardly the norm, and hardly a PC only issue. Really, as a PC and console gamer I can't believe people think PC is some kind of overly complicated platform. That's simply not the case anymore.
 
RM8 said:
I'm using an Alienware Alpha, which is basically an entry level gaming PC. It turns out it outperforms PS4 in lots of games, and you can build something better for much, much cheaper. I have bought a total of zero games I can't run perfectly, stuff like Batman is hardly the norm, and hardly a PC only issue. Really, as a PC and console gamer I can't believe people think PC is some kind of overly complicated platform. That's simply not the case anymore.
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You have zero games that don't run perfectly, except for the ones that don't run perfectly?

Look, I understand preferring the PC for gaming, but there's this bizarre tendency to pretend like it's this perfect solution when a lot of times, it's really not.
 
alexandros said:
The way the industry was say, five years ago, one could reasonably argue that owning at least one console in addition to a PC was necessary in order to not miss out on a variety of first-party and third-party exclusives. Today, I feel that if someone already has a capable gaming PC then the purchase of any console should only be considered if said console's first-party lineup is really, really strong. Neither the PS4 nor the XB1 have reached that place yet. You will find a lot of people here on GAF and elsewhere that consider games like Killzone, Knack, Driveclub, The Order to be fantastic experiences but the general consensus seems to be that only Bloodborne and to a much lesser extent Infamous are what we call "system sellers".

This is why I believe that anyone looking to add a console to his/her gaming systems should wait at least a couple more years for more games to be released, for the hardware to be revised and for its price to drop. Having a console and buying a PC provides the user with multiple and immediate benefits, the opposite is solely judged on the strength of the first-party library. So my advice is this: wait two more years for the first-party library to fill up, see how many games interest you and make a decision then. You will have made an informed decision based on released games and you will have saved money on both the hardware and the games.
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I'd say it would depend if you had a PS3 or not.

Right now, to play two of the best games ever released you need a PS4, period:
The Last of Us - Bloodborne.
Soon you can add Journey to that list.

There are also some other very good games already released on the system, and many more to come, that will be exclusive to it.

My opinion that to get the best of both worlds is to have pc+ps4 (pc and wiiU for Ninty fans) is still the same.
 
Chacranajxy said:
You have zero games that don't run perfectly, except for the ones that don't run perfectly?
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I'd say he didn't buy batman.

And note that Batman ran fine for quite a few people. It's just that it's setting, locked 30 FPS ect. and performance footprint were unnaceptable for a modern PC game.
 
zoukka said:
You can get a good PC for the cost of PS4 and the games are so much cheaper on PC that you'll save the whole sum in probably a year. Convenience is long gone from consoles. You'll be updating your shit all the time.
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Gaming PCs aren't nearly as expensive as people make them out to be, but lets not overstate it by claiming a $400 PC will get real world performance of AAA releases comparable to the PS4. Spec superiority isn't relevant when one has a far more pared down OS and is focus built to play video games.

$600 would have you in pretty good company though, and if you buy new games regularly you probably will save the difference within a year or so (and if you tend to wait a few months after release for most titles you'll probably save a whole lot more).

The appeal of PC is customization and options. You have multiple marketplaces for digital distribution. You do not have to pay for online gaming because there are so many options. If you want couch gaming you can set that up. If you want KB/M you can have that too. But if you want to pull something out of it's box, plug it into your TV, sit down and immediately play a game on your couch without any additional effort? That isn't the strong suit of PC gaming.

There are some very compelling console exclusives out there and coming in the future, but what these threads always seem to miss is that there are entire GENRES effectively exclusive to PC. The closest console gaming has to a quality strategy game so far this generation is Tropico 5, a step in the wrong direction for the series if you ask me and a middling entry in the genre on PC. It was recently on sale via PSN for $45. At the same time it was $10 on Steam. Or you could pick up CiV and both expansions for about $15-$20 at damn near any time and play an infinitely better game. Or CoH2. Or almost any Total War game. Or any of the previous Civs. Or GalCiv, etc. etc..

Same for puzzle games, RPGs, builders, etc.. People geek out over console versions of Terraria and Minecraft that came years after the PC versions, but the PC has a host of other fantastic titles within the same genre that are only on PC. This also applies to adventure games. A genre with far, far more diversity of selection on the PC, where everything in the genre lands first, and where a handful then migrate to consoles.

This is the PC advantage. You get the biggest, most diverse library all the time. The hardware advantage is, generally, pretty irrelevant. I play pretty much all my AAA titles on the PS4, but that makes up maybe 30% of my total gaming time (50% on PC playing RPGs, strat games, puzzle games, and various other unique titles, 20% on Vita).

OP, get a PS4 when you no longer have to ask this question. You clearly know what is available on the system. If you don't feel like four good to great games are enough then wait until more arrive. You'll never run out of games to play having a nice PC to game on, so it's all about when you want to experience those specific titles, not getting a system so you can even access the current generation of video games.
 
Pop On Arrival said:
Unless you really want to play bloodborne or something
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Bloodborne is phenomenal. I have a good gaming PC, but I keep playing Bloodborne. One of my favorite games of all-time. Hurry up with that expansion.

Apart from that TLoU, Resogun and Hohokum. Persona later this year and hopefully Rime.

Apart from that, 2016 looks to be the big year for the machine with Uncharted 4, Horizon, Ratchet and The Last Guardian.
 
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