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What happens if Kanye steals my beat
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Fixed2BeBroken
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you do realize this post only further supports my whole point tho
Princess Carl
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Saying that one particular song didn't require as much work as another doesn't really have any bearing on the totality of effort that he has put forth making music.
Thank you to everyone for your input, very grateful.
Someone said earlier that there shit has probably been stolen and they don't even know it. This scares me. How am I supposed to share my music if there is a chance it can be stolen from me
but I guess that is something you just have to deal with.
Someone said earlier that there shit has probably been stolen and they don't even know it. This scares me. How am I supposed to share my music if there is a chance it can be stolen from me
but I guess that is something you just have to deal with.Stabby McSter
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He's forgotten better shit than you've ever thought of.
Copyright violations aren't theft. You won't lose your music. Worst case scenario is you hire a lawyer. More likely you just don't give a fuck and move on. Or maybe you say "glad you liked my music enough to use it."Thank you to everyone for your input, very grateful.
Someone said earlier that there shit has probably been stolen and they don't even know it. This scares me. How am I supposed to share my music if there is a chance it can be stolen from me
Seriously, why are you scared somebody will use your music without permission? What about that puts fear into you?
I know how much effort can go into making a track, and to have it jacked from you would be shit. Not so much scared, just something that will be in the back of my mind. The acid jazzed evening track is great, if I was Tempest I'd be pissed as fuck. It would be a shitty situation to be in. I feel for the guy.
Some people in this thread have no idea what they are talking about.
Your "beat" is protected without any form of registration. You can only hand over your right to the beat in the way you literally did. So, if you say "Yeah, you can use my beat for this youtube movie your making". That person, can literally only use your beat for that specific youtube video, maybe even only, for that "specific" upload.
Even if you say "Ill sell you my beat", that person cannot sell your beat to a new person! Only if you say "Ill sell you my beat, and you can if you want, sell it to whomever you want" ...
I do not know, how the laws in your country is, but usually there are moral rights to your beat, which can never be given away. Even if you sign a contract saying "I surrender 100 % of all my rights to this beat", you will always have the possibility to demand that your name is attached to the beat. So, people will always know, this is your beat.
Now, enforcing your right might be harder! If you upload a real dope beat, who knows, if tons of people all over the world starts to use it. Then there will be basically nothing you can do about it. However, if your a good beat producer, i guess the publicity will be a good thing though. Maybe, throw in some "shout outs" through the beats, saying your name. That way, it will be harder for someone to plainly steal your beat.
Also, beware of whatever upload sites TOS says, there is a chance they might include some clause saying your surrendering your rights. (although i am not sure, if that TOS would be valid in court)
Also, this right to your beat, only applies if it lives up to the threshold of originality. Also, if you use anyone elses loops, there might be a chance, you need their permission to capitalize on your beat. Meaning, their bass loop is protected.
Your "beat" is protected without any form of registration. You can only hand over your right to the beat in the way you literally did. So, if you say "Yeah, you can use my beat for this youtube movie your making". That person, can literally only use your beat for that specific youtube video, maybe even only, for that "specific" upload.
Even if you say "Ill sell you my beat", that person cannot sell your beat to a new person! Only if you say "Ill sell you my beat, and you can if you want, sell it to whomever you want" ...
I do not know, how the laws in your country is, but usually there are moral rights to your beat, which can never be given away. Even if you sign a contract saying "I surrender 100 % of all my rights to this beat", you will always have the possibility to demand that your name is attached to the beat. So, people will always know, this is your beat.
Now, enforcing your right might be harder! If you upload a real dope beat, who knows, if tons of people all over the world starts to use it. Then there will be basically nothing you can do about it. However, if your a good beat producer, i guess the publicity will be a good thing though. Maybe, throw in some "shout outs" through the beats, saying your name. That way, it will be harder for someone to plainly steal your beat.
Also, beware of whatever upload sites TOS says, there is a chance they might include some clause saying your surrendering your rights. (although i am not sure, if that TOS would be valid in court)
Also, this right to your beat, only applies if it lives up to the threshold of originality. Also, if you use anyone elses loops, there might be a chance, you need their permission to capitalize on your beat. Meaning, their bass loop is protected.
You do know that he stole it though. He actually stole it from one of the biggest Trance Music Labels. Even if the general public, we're assuming they don't listen to electronic music now, doesn't remember Mat Zo and Arty's name, they do know that WillIAm is a fraud. I do wonder if Anjuna is following through with suing Will, they certainly are making fun of him.
Who the fuck listens to WillIAm anyway?
how do you think he's made almost $100 million?
Because no one wants to be ripped off and not given credit for their shit. You spend hours or years maybe coming up with something unique and that actually took effort to make and some douche slows it down... or maybe does nothing. Nothing at all. Just loops it and someone else sings or raps over it. That's not really worthy of any sort of praise. I can appreciate samples that take a song and use it as just one piece of a whole new work like an instrument in itself, but "sampling" in the sense that "I only used a piece of your song left it untouched and did nothing else to it and that is the entirety of "my" beat" is deplorable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPjggfUhvgc
deplorable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McRgkE_vgjU
Still a shit song and the MGMT sample is obvious but at least this took effort and my eyes wouldn't roll into the back of my skull seeing the producer's name on the credits.
That's money he made from the original Black Eyed Peas...
... is what I'd be saying if there were any justice in this world.
Nappuccino
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Get your muscle to hold him upside down off a balcony until you get him to agree to pay compensation.
Worked on Vanilla Ice.
Worked on Vanilla Ice.
Fixed2BeBroken
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you tottally misunderstood what I was saying, or did not get the context of it, because you didn't read the post of the guy that I responded and the post of mine that HE responded too....You are basically supporting my main point.
He did it before here in Chicago. Supposedly got his ass stomped for it. Was one of the tracks on College Dropout.
But now, after he's this huge? Yeah, you're fucked.
I do attribute a large portion of WillIAm's success to BEP works before 2010. BEP were fairly successful, even if you can argue that a large portion of their material is plagiarized and/or imitation. WillIAm's most recent work isn't really doing so well, but he's still got those endorsements!!
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