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What if there was a political-alignment questionnaire available at polling stations?

gun_haver

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I saw the thread about the news site introducing a quiz before allowing comments on news stories, it reminded me of a thought I had recently.

The idea is pretty simple - at the voting booth, or perhaps during an online voting registration process (to avoid huge queues at polling centers), what if there was a questionnaire to take about where you stood on various issues, from immigration to tax to social issues, and then at the end of the quiz it would show you the parties available to vote for and how closely you align with them. There are websites that do this already, I've taken the quizzes and been a little surprised by some of the results at times, whether it being a party having a position I didn't expect, or finding I'm actually slightly more compatible with a party I wasn't intending on voting for.

This is different than another idea that gets talked about sometimes - a political knowledge quiz, where you need to prove a level of understanding of the issues before being allowed to vote. The problem with this is somewhat obvious - it's elitist, and would disproportionately preclude poor people from voting due to the increased likelihood they will be under-educated, therefore essentially creating a democratic filter where the poorer you are, the less your opinion matters. This is already the case in the world, difficult to justify making it worse.

What I'm suggesting doesn't really have that issue, because it wouldn't be 'do you know what % of GDP was spent on the military last year', or knowledge questions like that, but things that anybody who cared enough to vote would be able to answer - 'do you think that healthcare should be provided free of charge', 'should the railway system be publically owned', and these kinds of things. Obviously, you would still have the option to choose no opinion if you didn't care about a particular question.

The reason I thought it was a good idea is because so often you see polls where voters disproportionately agree with left-wing individual policies but vote for right-wing parties - I'm biased to the left, so these are the polls I tend to remember, but it might be true for the right as well. So, that leads me to think that there are a lot of people out there who don't actually know what they are voting for. They might still not understand the issues fully, but that's not a simple problem to solve. It seems like this idea would at least result in elections and referenda that reflect the opinions of the electorate, rather than superficial biases not based on actual policy.

I'm curious to see what people think of it as an idea, or the feasibility of it.
 
"Are you American?"

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"The party that most matches your political opinions is the Republican Party!"
 
Sounds great OP, something like this?

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How do you create an unbiased questionnaire? How can you guarantee it won't unfairly steer people to one candidate?
 
Yeah that wouldn't be abused like fuck and has never been historically abused.

Voting is a right for every citizen, full stop. Any attempts to get in the way of that are bad.
 
I have this odd feeling we've done this before.

I always get a kick when people say "we need tests before you can vote to make sure you know about politics" and those people don't really know politics lol. Since it's not like this is a novel new idea that wasn't tried in the past with disastrous consequences.
 
No, once you are voting, you shouldn't be getting what is basically a campaign paper first.

If people want to see how they align, there are plenty of options for that already. The government should not make you fill out questions before voting, since it can not be trusted to be impartial.
 
The title is bad and the OP is still bad because it suggests that an alignment would be offered.

Well the alignment is the point - it'd present a percentage score of your alignment with all of the parties, with the option to look in more detail if the voter wanted to.

Also, yeah, I probably should have said 'what if there was a political alignment questionnaire at the voting booth'.

Also yeah people please read the actual post cos I'm sensing some of you think I'm talking about what I say I am specifically not talking about in the post.
 
How many bubblegum balls are in this jar?

Voting is a right for every citizen. As unfortunate as it may be.

In that case just skip through all the questions with 'no opinion' and go straight to voting. There aren't any conditions on it, it's just information about the publically known policy positions of the parties available to vote for and where you stand in relation to that.
 
Well the alignment is the point - it'd present a percentage score of your alignment with all of the parties, with the option to look in more detail if the voter wanted to.

Also, yeah, I probably should have said 'what if there was a political alignment questionnaire at the voting booth'.

Also yeah people please read the actual post cos I'm sensing some of you think I'm talking about what I say I am specifically not talking about in the post.

Ask for a title change, but I think a political alignment would still be bad to be at the voting booth.

In that case just skip through all the questions with 'no opinion' and go straight to voting. There aren't any conditions on it, it's just information about the publically known policy positions of the parties available to vote for and where you stand in relation to that.

Your argument for last minute influences happening in the voting booth is to skip it?

Brilliant.
 
I'd fail that, guess i'm illiterate.

The answers to the questions are meaningless. Pass/fail was entirely based on skin color.

I figure you might already know that, just posting it in case people didn't understand why that quiz is written so poorly.

This has been done before?

Yes. It was used to make sure black people couldn't vote. There was no way for them to ever pass the test needed to vote.
 
It would take too long. The questionnaire + actual voting would increase time at the polls, which are already bad in some areas.

But I'd still be kinda wary of it even if you do it beforehand
 
You can vote early. You don't have to vote on election day.

A certain political party has been reducing early voting hours/locations. Y'know, to cut costs.

But yeah, early and easy voting is a much better thing to strive for than voting holiday. Washington does all voting by mail: it's pretty sweet.
 
This has been done before?

There were literacy tests or laws requiring you to own a certain amount of property in some States in the late 19th century that were deliberately designed to halt black voters.

You might think what you propose is totally different, but it would absolutely be used in the same way.

For a proposition like this, you should think to yourself "Would I want the opposite party to use this same thing and trust them not to be shitty about it?"
 
Your argument for last minute influences happening in the voting booth is to skip it?

Brilliant.

Don't see the need for the tone, I'm saying it isn't a barrier to voting because you would get to vote however you wanted regardless.

It's an interesting point about last minute influences - in my head I had it that an impartial body would make the questionniaire up based on the most important/discussed issues in a campaign and word as impartial questions as possible. If it's impossible to ask an impartial question, then it's impossible to hold an impartial referendum, which I don't think it is.

Is it less legitimate to have your own opinions in front of you next to the opinions of the political candidates/parties you are about to decide on, than to have weeks of biased media coverage owned by interests unknown to you presenting the campaign narrative in a way that suits them? De-emphasising parts of a manifesto inconvenient for them and focusing on sensationalist events that are? Why not just take it down to the policy and see if it ameliorates the discrepancy in a voter's policy opinion and party choice.
 
He's basically just saying putting something similar to ISideWith on the machine (which isn't a great idea at all, an optional feature at best which would back up lines most likely) but I can see why the association between 'questionnaire' and voting would be met with some apprehension. I agree that it should just remain an untouched and highly simplified process for citizens.
 
Take them with you when they are small, if they are older leave them at home for a few minutes.

Transportation and time invested for a decently sized family with long voting lines?

This doesn't make sense. The group of people you are hoping to help are going to be harmed by this; good policies have people think through scenarios and not just propose what sounds good.

Don't see the need for the tone, I'm saying it isn't a barrier to voting because you would get to vote however you wanted regardless.

It's an interesting point about last minute influences - in my head I had it that an impartial body would make the questionniaire up based on the most important/discussed issues in a campaign and word as impartial questions as possible. If it's impossible to ask an impartial question, then it's impossible to hold an impartial referendum, which I don't think it is.

Is it less legitimate to have your own opinions in front of you next to the opinions of the political candidates/parties you are about to decide on, than to have weeks of biased media coverage owned by interests unknown to you presenting the campaign narrative in a way that suits them? De-emphasising parts of a manifesto inconvenient for them and focusing on sensationalist events that are? Why not just take it down to the policy and see if it solves the discrepancy in policy opinion and voting direction.

The tone is deserved because it is stupid to say the way to avoid influences is to skip the influences rather than not have them at all in the voting booth.
 
No, he's one of the "didn't read past the title" people.

That said, everything we've done regarding voting has been abused, so your suggestion would be as well.

Every single hurdle put in place before voting is used to stop minorities from voting, so even if it's not entirely the same as a literacy test, it's the same in practice.
 
Yes. It was used to make sure black people couldn't vote. There was no way for them to ever pass the test needed to vote.

You didn't read the post.

The tone is deserved because it is stupid to say the way to avoid influences is to skip the influences rather than not have them at all in the voting booth.

I answer the influence issue in my previous post, or at least started to. My idea of skipping the questions if you have no opinion isn't to reduce the influence, it's to prevent it being any kind of barrier from voting, so you're misunderstanding me. If you don't want to answer the questionnaire, because you are either sure of your choice or don't trust the system for some reason, skip every question and vote as normal. No barrier, no 'test', just information for you if you want it, but integrated into the voting process to encourage people to know who they are voting for.
 
Unfortunately I feel that if people have gotten all the way to the polls without being educated on the issues, it's certainly not going to happen at the voting booth. It could potentially make voting take longer which would most affect big (democratic) cities.
 
This is dumb. You can't solve all problems with an app.

"do you think that healthcare should be provided free of charge" is a nonsense question that leaves out like seven hundred pages of how such a system would work. There are many "free healthcare" plans I wouldn't support, and many that I would support. There's really no way to write those questions in a way that's truly useful and not catastrophically misleading.

Insofar as you've identified a problem, that problem is pernicious and complicated. You're not going to solve it with some five minute computer thing. Just invest in education, and commit to it. Entrenched problems require long-term efforts.
 
The fact that something was implemented poorly before, with malicious intentions no less, does not mean any possible implementation would also be bad.
 
lol, fuck no. c'mon.... Even that's rife with problems of possible bias. People need to be able to educate themselves.
 
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