IceDoesntHelp
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Oh I've noticed. Even though its bad for my eyes, I typically play games in the dark lol.
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What is the best LED TV for Gaming?
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Oh I've noticed. Even though its bad for my eyes, I typically play games in the dark lol.
I'd like to buy a 50 or 55 inch set too (1000-1500 euro budget), i've read through the thread, and i am still as confused with LCD and plasma as i was after browsing AVS for an hour. Could you maybe share your opinion on my specific case?
I want to use the tv mostly (90%) for gaming, so my only goal is to get a tv for that purpose. I absolutely don't care about power usage or heat emission, the tv will be in a fairly dark room, so even daytime it won't be a problem. I also don't care about smart tv features - as long as the tv has a few HDMI ins, I'm good. I don't know if it matters, I don't yet have a sound system. I'd be doing the calibration myself, as in my country I couldn't find a better service than the 'teen guys using the regular menu' method someone mentioned earlier. I don't plan to use 3D regularly, so that is definitely not a deciding factor.
Now, reading through the thread, plasma would be the clear choice, but i have a few concerns:
-how bad is image retention/burn really these days, with a new plasma tv? Some people here said it's still a problem, some said it's not an issue since years ago. I really like to play games in big blocks, so 4-5-6 hours with the same hud will happen regularly.
-how bad is ghosting? Are people familiar with newer plasma sets notice them these days? I'm not that anal about picture quality, but i hate ghosting.
Also, do I detect lcd-plasma fanboyism? Is this thing really exists like console/phone fanboyism? Not necessarily in this thread (well, there were some suspiciously hate-filled replies), but in general?
I want to use the tv mostly (90%) for gaming, so my only goal is to get a tv for that purpose. I absolutely don't care about power usage or heat emission, the tv will be in a fairly dark room, so even daytime it won't be a problem. I also don't care about smart tv features - as long as the tv has a few HDMI ins, I'm good. I don't know if it matters, I don't yet have a sound system. I'd be doing the calibration myself, as in my country I couldn't find a better service than the 'teen guys using the regular menu' method someone mentioned earlier. I don't plan to use 3D regularly, so that is definitely not a deciding factor.
Now, reading through the thread, plasma would be the clear choice, but i have a few concerns:
-how bad is image retention/burn really these days, with a new plasma tv? Some people here said it's still a problem, some said it's not an issue since years ago. I really like to play games in big blocks, so 4-5-6 hours with the same hud will happen regularly.
-how bad is ghosting? Are people familiar with newer plasma sets notice them these days? I'm not that anal about picture quality, but i hate ghosting.
Also, do I detect lcd-plasma fanboyism? Is this thing really exists like console/phone fanboyism? Not necessarily in this thread (well, there were some suspiciously hate-filled replies), but in general?
Hold on a minute here. There are like 10 replies saying to get a 42" Panasonic plasma but no caveat on the current model X5.
The Panasonic X5 is not the quality Panasonic plasma you're looking for. Granted, it's $350 from Walmart. But you get what you're paying for in one of the cheapest 42" displays out there. Colors are just really poor. CNET agrees with me.
I have the X5 (as a cheap spare display) and a LG plasma (my main, much better) and several smaller LCDs.
The Panasonic X5 is not the quality Panasonic plasma you're looking for. Granted, it's $350 from Walmart. But you get what you're paying for in one of the cheapest 42" displays out there. Colors are just really poor. CNET agrees with me.
I have the X5 (as a cheap spare display) and a LG plasma (my main, much better) and several smaller LCDs.
Vinterbird
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For me burn in wasn't a issue but rather buzzing. Having the 360 dashboard on resulted in so much buzzing I was almost laughing, it was so crazy loud and it started buzzing loudly every time the screen wasn't dark most of the time.
I really hope OLED can bring best of both worlds from LCD and Plasma soon.
Muffin Awesome
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I saw Best Buy was running the 24inch 3d LED tv for 99.99 down from 399.99, don't know what you are/were looking for but that deal does/did exist.
It's not a very good tv. Pretty high input lag. Lots of ghosting in the 3D. Poor blacks. And it seems to have some hardware issue with the power supply that makes it a short lived time bomb.
JimmyRustler
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Do not buy Panasonic LED. It's great for movies but horrible for games.
So I bought a Plasma TV and the picture doesn't look crisp/is disappointing.
Now the overall picture can look pretty amazing for movies, BUT, if you stop moving your eyes and focus hard on one thing...it's blurry. There are no hard lines. For example, if you're looking at the flowers on her dress the inner veins on the leaves blur into the rest of the leaf. It's not super pronounced but it's definitely there and very annoying.
http://www.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/The-Help-Theatrical-Still.jpg
It's a Panasonic P50UT50 by the way. I just feel like I'd get those crisp, sharp edges with an LCD. Also I was playing red dead redemption and it looked sort of pixelated on the edges, more pronounced bigger than regular aliasing in games.
Now the overall picture can look pretty amazing for movies, BUT, if you stop moving your eyes and focus hard on one thing...it's blurry. There are no hard lines. For example, if you're looking at the flowers on her dress the inner veins on the leaves blur into the rest of the leaf. It's not super pronounced but it's definitely there and very annoying.
http://www.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/The-Help-Theatrical-Still.jpg
It's a Panasonic P50UT50 by the way. I just feel like I'd get those crisp, sharp edges with an LCD. Also I was playing red dead redemption and it looked sort of pixelated on the edges, more pronounced bigger than regular aliasing in games.
StriKeVillain
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A couple of things.
First, make sure you're using reference quality material to test your tv (nothing sub-1080p if you're looking at sharpness for instance).
Second, what mode are you displaying the content in? Cinema has the best color reproduction on the UT50 but it may appear slightly blurrier than Custom. What I do is use Custom for watching daytime content, Game for gaming and Cinema during the evenings when I'm in a darker environment.
This thread at AVSF has some good info on the UT50 - take a look: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1412033/the-official-panasonic-ut50-settings-issues-thread
I just purchased a 60UT50 and am loving it. I previously owned a 50GT25 which had IR issues I couldn't deal with anymore (anything left on the screen for even a second would leave a mark for at least a couple of minutes). The UT50 has absolutely zero IR from what I can tell. I've been playing Halo4 and FIFA13 on a nightly basis with it.
Haint
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Another public FWIW reminder, the 50U54 is $499 at Costco. In any event, these U50/54's are insane values. Input lag is low, black level seems to be every bit as good as the higher range models, and color is very accurate. CNET doesn't do service menu level calibration, so I imagine the grayscale is also able to be tuned to near perfection as well if you have your own meter or can track down some WB offsets.
Thanks for the info, yeah I've definitely figured out you need to switch modes depending on what you're doing. I had the PS3 plugged directly into the TV and was still getting that bluryness. It's worst in games, can't see fine details in people's face etc...
I'm going to best buy today to look at some other TV's and figure out if it's just my eyes or if it really isn't that bad compared to other screens.
MrCompletely
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This thread convinced me to pull the trigger on
Panasonic VIERA TC-P50U50 50-Inch 1080p Full HD Plasma TV
Cost me $530 after linking up my Chase card points. I figure I'll get around $300 for my 40" 720p Bravia which I've had for 7ish years, netting me out at $230 for 1080p, 50" upgrade
Panasonic VIERA TC-P50U50 50-Inch 1080p Full HD Plasma TV
Cost me $530 after linking up my Chase card points. I figure I'll get around $300 for my 40" 720p Bravia which I've had for 7ish years, netting me out at $230 for 1080p, 50" upgrade
IceDoesntHelp
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Lucky. I wish mine was that cheap. I picked it up last night.
Nealand Liquor
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Because just like PC's, you can't seem to have a discussion on gaf without either being brought up no matter how out if place it is.
Welp I figured it out. I went back to Best Buy and was looking at a really nice plasma and LCD side by side. The plasma looked kind of like it was flickering and was almost sickening to watch. I felt like I was missing frames and motion was jumpy.
The salesperson stated it's a phenomenon that occurs only in some percentage of the population. I looked online a bit and confirmed that was the case. Sooooo I guess plama is just some technology I can't enjoy.
The salesperson stated it's a phenomenon that occurs only in some percentage of the population. I looked online a bit and confirmed that was the case. Sooooo I guess plama is just some technology I can't enjoy.