You can't conquer a slut. She's not yours; she's everyone's. There's no "thrill of the hunt." This desire for conquest is eternally at odds with the more basic desire to just have sex.
Stereotypes are so complicated.
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What is Your Definition of a Slut?
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Stereotypes are so complicated.
Good Job Bob
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Never; my definition of the word is based upon the context I've seen it used in the most times. (e.g. referring to a trashy, low-rent, overtly sexual woman)
No.
Slut is one of those slurs that's scope is so arbitrary that it's almost something personal, like your religious leanings. I don't think anyone really agrees on what constitutes a slut.
I don't think I would ever use the word, as it's roots aren't in anything more than 'having [x] amount of sex'.
If someone has sex to gain something non-sexual, they are a whore. If for some reason I was forced to describe someone who would 'classically' be defined as a slut, I would just say 'very sexually active'. I understand a lot of people are not offended by the word, and that a lot of people are - to avoid all that ish, I just don't use it. I am not particularly attached to a lot of slurs, so... maybe that's just me.
I don't think I would ever use the word, as it's roots aren't in anything more than 'having [x] amount of sex'.
If someone has sex to gain something non-sexual, they are a whore. If for some reason I was forced to describe someone who would 'classically' be defined as a slut, I would just say 'very sexually active'. I understand a lot of people are not offended by the word, and that a lot of people are - to avoid all that ish, I just don't use it. I am not particularly attached to a lot of slurs, so... maybe that's just me.
How does she already know what everyone defines as a slut, especially looking at the wide range of answers given in this thread? That's some weird mind reading powers.
NervousXtian
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I'd argue that at least half the answers on here are people pretending to define slut differently than how they actually use it, so they don't look like complete assholes and are worried about how they are viewed by Devo.
Good Job Bob
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All hail Queen Devolution?
Ah, so you're the mind reader.
Look, taking peoples personal opinions at face value is one of those things that makes having these discussions either - if you start second guessing everything, I think it gets exhausting. Sure, some people might be embarrassed at their definition of slut, and be making a new idealized version - but doesn't that at least imply that their definition is not all that rigid - or with enough thought, might change to their 'fake' one?
Hey, Good Job Bob surprised me.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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You really think people are afraid of what Devo will think of them? Wow.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
No, but I think some of the definitions people put up are just bullshit.
Slut is clearly defined as a promiscuous woman.
You can use the word is different ways, but the implication is a promiscuous woman.
Then again, that's not even what this thread is really about.. as the OP knows that the definition is clearly what I put above.
:edit: .. and to answer your question? Yes, there is clearly those who run to her threads to me-too her.
What is promiscuous?
Finaika
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I am.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Seriously?
I'll humor you.
Promiscuity, in human sexual behavior, refers to the practice of casual sex with multiple sexual partners.
..but honestly, you can argue that a promiscuous woman isn't a bad thing. That's fine.. doesn't change the definition of "slut" one single bit.
Being a slut is double plus ungood?
Anton Sugar
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When's the last time you heard "slut" used in a manner that isn't derogatory?
So you'd say someone who has slept with lets say... 3 people in a year, casually, is a slut?
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sluts are just the best
jim-jam bongs
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But it's not clearly defined, at least not in the sense in which you're speaking here.
Honestly, I kid around but this thread actually did make me stop and realise that I don't have a definition of it since I fundamentally don't understand the word from a logical perspective. It's a pejorative, but the definition isn't something which matches it's status as a pejorative. Sometimes you can have a word which is only offensive in certain circles, but the word "slut" is universally agreed to be a word which describes an undesirable person despite the fact that the definition, a promiscuous woman, isn't inherently undesirable.
And no, this isn't bullshit incidentally. As terrifying as I find Devo I'm quite certain she won't cross the Pacific to fuck with me.
KittenMaster
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I've called my cat a slut as a joke, but it's really a terrible word, IMO. It penalizes a woman for doing what is considered an accomplishment for men. It puts a lot of blame on them.
Even if you attempt to apply the term to a guy, it'd probably just come off as flirtatious rather than negative. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Even if you attempt to apply the term to a guy, it'd probably just come off as flirtatious rather than negative. Correct me if I'm wrong.
jim-jam bongs
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:lol
Does the mere act of taking a different sexual partner every week make you a slut? Perhaps not but I can safely say that every person I've ever known to fulfil that criteria are absolutely sluts in by opinion.
This is a personal and subjective belief, because I believe sex is a very intimate and emotional thing and that casual sex is devaluing for both parties involved (either men or women). I'd think of someone as exhibiting slutty behaviour when they demonstrate a lack of selectivity and fuck without any regard for emotional connection whatsoever.
This definition isn't that valid when people don't attribute any kind of value to sexual activity. If it's like 'cardio for two', then there are no sluts to them.
As for the double standard, it's because women are generally reluctant to have sex with a man, so sleeping with a lot of (particularly higher-quality) women is seen as a type of accomplishment. Men are generally more eager to sleep with women, so a woman who sleeps with a lot of men is seen as being easy and unselective (and therefore not worth much, because nothing worth having comes easy). Not saying it makes sense, but that's human psychology for you.
Many men will struggle with past promiscuity in women they become romantically involved with, because they can feel not 'special', or can be worried about not being able to wow her sexually, or can resent her for experiencing things they have not, or are worried about her faithfulness or they use the above logic and devalue her due to her past or get mental images of her in previous situations and rage. This gets dealt with separately:
1. You are special. She's with you, not anyone else. You're her #1 choice.
2. It sucks that she's probably had better sex with someone else than with you, but deal with it. You're with her now, you'll have time to practice.
3. Her experience pays off in being generally a better lover, and you can experience things with her. IF you find that you emotionally need more experience fucking other people or doing things she's no longer willing to do, then break up.
4. If casually dating someone, then it's a red flag, but if you've had a long, stable relationship then that's the best evidence for monogamy.
5. Relationships move one direction - forward. As long as her past stays there, move forward. If her past creeps into the present, then either deal with it or break up.
6. If dealing with mental images, they fade with time. Ask her to not discuss her past with you if it makes things harder.
There's probably some kind of ownership complex there.
On the other hand, people have to realize that past actions are rarely consequence-free. Aside from STIs, you also can deal with a social stigma and/or have the past follow you around. Good choices and a mild degree of restraint will probably keep you from getting burned.
This definition isn't that valid when people don't attribute any kind of value to sexual activity. If it's like 'cardio for two', then there are no sluts to them.
As for the double standard, it's because women are generally reluctant to have sex with a man, so sleeping with a lot of (particularly higher-quality) women is seen as a type of accomplishment. Men are generally more eager to sleep with women, so a woman who sleeps with a lot of men is seen as being easy and unselective (and therefore not worth much, because nothing worth having comes easy). Not saying it makes sense, but that's human psychology for you.
Many men will struggle with past promiscuity in women they become romantically involved with, because they can feel not 'special', or can be worried about not being able to wow her sexually, or can resent her for experiencing things they have not, or are worried about her faithfulness or they use the above logic and devalue her due to her past or get mental images of her in previous situations and rage. This gets dealt with separately:
1. You are special. She's with you, not anyone else. You're her #1 choice.
2. It sucks that she's probably had better sex with someone else than with you, but deal with it. You're with her now, you'll have time to practice.
3. Her experience pays off in being generally a better lover, and you can experience things with her. IF you find that you emotionally need more experience fucking other people or doing things she's no longer willing to do, then break up.
4. If casually dating someone, then it's a red flag, but if you've had a long, stable relationship then that's the best evidence for monogamy.
5. Relationships move one direction - forward. As long as her past stays there, move forward. If her past creeps into the present, then either deal with it or break up.
6. If dealing with mental images, they fade with time. Ask her to not discuss her past with you if it makes things harder.
There's probably some kind of ownership complex there.
On the other hand, people have to realize that past actions are rarely consequence-free. Aside from STIs, you also can deal with a social stigma and/or have the past follow you around. Good choices and a mild degree of restraint will probably keep you from getting burned.
Yeah. I think a lot of people are looking at it purely from what it appears to be on the surface without taking into account possible behavioural and instinctual reasons. If we rationalise it, it seems really hypocritical, but then that would be looking at it in terms of men and women being exactly the same. Nature doesn't really work that way. The way in which men express themselves sexually, in general, isn't quite the same as the way women do. I remember Stephen Fry being heavily criticised by feminists for saying women weren't as interested in sex as men. He was taken completely out of context though, and while perhaps not entirely accurate, there was an element of truth in what he was saying. All he really did is make a simple observation.
I personally would say women have a pretty healthy desire for sex, but still, they are far more picky, in general, when it comes to a mate than men are. Lust in men is aggressive; we are actively and aggressively pursuing sex. It doesn't matter to us what that person is like, we're not fussy in that way. The very act of sexual intercourse in itself is a male dominance thing. Man is active, woman passive. I think we as men naturally expect some resistance; something that doesn't come easy, but is earned through persistence. Men are actively pursuing, women passively succumbing.
Dark Octave
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This thread is so bait, but I'll bite.
A slut to me is any woman who:
A) Is quick to sleep with a person that she just met.
B) Has multiple sexual partners at or around the same time.
A man who does this is a dog. It's bad, but not nearly as bad as a woman, slut , whore or ho. It's a double standard, but that's just how it is (these are my beliefs).
Possible reasons I can think of why it's viewed this way (not saying these are my beliefs):
It's a man's job to "pursue" a woman, and a woman's job to be lady like and "play hard to get".
It is a man's job to "spread his seed" and a woman's job to raise her children.
Female genitalia is more sensitive than a male's to things such as disease, infections and parasites (children).
Women who give up the ass for money are looked down on as nasty or dirty and often spread disease. They are associated closely with sluts.
Glad Dragona isn't around anymore.
A slut to me is any woman who:
A) Is quick to sleep with a person that she just met.
B) Has multiple sexual partners at or around the same time.
A man who does this is a dog. It's bad, but not nearly as bad as a woman, slut , whore or ho. It's a double standard, but that's just how it is (these are my beliefs).
Possible reasons I can think of why it's viewed this way (not saying these are my beliefs):
It's a man's job to "pursue" a woman, and a woman's job to be lady like and "play hard to get".
It is a man's job to "spread his seed" and a woman's job to raise her children.
Female genitalia is more sensitive than a male's to things such as disease, infections and parasites (children).
Women who give up the ass for money are looked down on as nasty or dirty and often spread disease. They are associated closely with sluts.
Glad Dragona isn't around anymore.
CoffeeJanitor
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This. This right here.
What if all this fucking is with one person?
tearsofash
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Hot, out of my league females that are sexually promiscuous to a point to where it makes me insecure and I have to name call them in order to feel better about myself.
I think people, male or female, should be allowed to have as much sex as they want as long as they are safe about it, and emotionally mature enough to have many partners. The world is degrading, and I'd only use it as part of a verbal degradation scene if the submissive was OK with it.
I think people, male or female, should be allowed to have as much sex as they want as long as they are safe about it, and emotionally mature enough to have many partners. The world is degrading, and I'd only use it as part of a verbal degradation scene if the submissive was OK with it.
Mr_Appleby
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A "Slut" is an untidy person. If I said "that friend of yours looks a tad sluttish", it would be because she had besmirched her bonnet, or perhaps her crinoline was showing.
true story bro: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=slut
Now a harlot is another matter entirely.
true story bro: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=slut
Now a harlot is another matter entirely.
Dark Octave
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That's pretty much everything though.
I remember when Ice-T called another man a bitch in that movie where they were hunting him for sport. I never heard a man be called a bitch before and it blew my mind. Ever since then, the word has become overused for everyone male and female and is now meaningless for me.
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nothing should "have the bite it used to."
dream
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Really? Whenever I see a man referred to as a bitch I assume that there is an intended feminine subtext.
The Incarnation
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Woman who is quite simply everybody's.
It's not really about how many people you've slept with.
For example you live in a town with 40 men and you've slept with most of them at some point..
The town bike so to speak.
It's not really about how many people you've slept with.
For example you live in a town with 40 men and you've slept with most of them at some point..
The town bike so to speak.
So you admit to the double standard but do not give a reason for it. The act is the same regardless of gender.
Also, wut children are parasites?
Hate speech is double plus ungood. "Slut" is [usually] hate speech.
It is a double standard but men can't be blamed. I find thats its women pushing this whole 'slut' thing. I think maybe its cause the 'proper' women feel that it makes things harder for them.
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My definition of slut is someone who has sex a lot.
I don't attach gender to it, though I recognize that it's often used as a pejorative against women (whether or not they actually are promiscuous).
I also don't attach moral or patriarchal meaning to the term, though I recognize many people do.
Edit : Also, this may have already been posted before, but I love this video a lot: Slut Shaming and Why it's Wrong.
I don't attach gender to it, though I recognize that it's often used as a pejorative against women (whether or not they actually are promiscuous).
I also don't attach moral or patriarchal meaning to the term, though I recognize many people do.
Edit : Also, this may have already been posted before, but I love this video a lot: Slut Shaming and Why it's Wrong.
I'm terrified of Devolution Demerits.
Some one who has sex a lot. Maybe to the point where they have so much of it, you could mistake it as a job.
Gender doesn't matter. I'm actually more inclined to use it in regards to guys. I just shake my head when its regards to women. Not out of pity, but because I can see how people view their actions and how damaging it can be, but people who are that far down the road tend to to be too receptive. There is a difference between a sexually liberated woman and a "slut". Another good way of describing it I think would be a a large quantity of meaningless "sex for sex's sake".
Gender doesn't matter. I'm actually more inclined to use it in regards to guys. I just shake my head when its regards to women. Not out of pity, but because I can see how people view their actions and how damaging it can be, but people who are that far down the road tend to to be too receptive. There is a difference between a sexually liberated woman and a "slut". Another good way of describing it I think would be a a large quantity of meaningless "sex for sex's sake".
Isn't this all of us?
Ever heard the term music for music's sake (absolute music), or science for science's sake?
Its the premise that what you do isn't really "about" anything. Like you experiment with science just to experiment. So in this context, you have sex, just to have sex. No direction, or motive really.
Dark Octave
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Yeah it is a double standard. It's just looked at more harshly when it's a woman. It's engrained into our culture. If you ever seen the show Married with Children, the son is on the couch making out with a girl and the father walks past. The daughter is on the same couch making out with a guy and the father walks past, stops, turns around, picks the daughter's date up by the collar, slams his head into the door and proceeds to throw him out of the house. This is reality though as well, just maybe not as literal.
And yes, my wife and I jokingly call our child and all children a parasite. By definition they really are. I was a parasite to my parents as well. Still am sometimes.
Finaika
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Sex for pleasure.
Reticent Rhino
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So, uh, why would these proper women you claim are responsible for the double standard be concerned about sexually active women making them look bad if there wasn't a double standard already in place?
I will accept "time-traveling witches" as a valid answer.
On the subject of double standards, why are women more inclined to sleep with men of status within the society. I mean Mick Jagger has had thousands of women. He doesn't have to work at it all. Why can't women be easy for every man?
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