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[A More Normal Bird]

You do have bigger and heavier body. Those are simple physics. Rich Froning (Crossfit champion) put on a lot more muscle once for more strenght, but it heavily limited his olympics gymnastics excercises, so he had to go down.

Now I'm not saying you can barely move if you're big, but all that additional muscle doesn't exist in vacum. It weights a lot and takes a lot of space

But you kind of implied it. Ignoring that none of your examples relate to flexibility, if Tony Horton is anywhere near the tipping point where size begins to limit it Ronnie Coleman and Kai Greene wouldn't be capable of the half the moves they do on stage. They're literally some of the most extremely muscled people who've ever existed. Size becoming a direct factor in reducing range of motion is something the ordinary person should not be overly concerned with.

As for your other point, yes muscle weighs a lot but it also moves you; see Konstantinovs doing 50 pullups with minimal kip or the Olympic lifter in the pic above. Once again, these are two exceedingly large individuals. The impact of increased mass on things such as bodyweight exercises has a multitude of variables feeding into it relating to both the individual and the training they're undertaking.

Yep takes a lot of oxygen to work those muscles. Wonder why most fighters are more lean instead of insanely ripped? There are exceptions, especially when steroids are involved, but being massive is not ideal.

Define "ideal". Marius is too big to not gas out in MMA, but Cain Velasquez's legendary cardio wouldn't stop him from fading fast in a strongman contest.

Anyway, your Mario post made me realise that for a number of reasons, my ideal body is in fact Luigi's.

 

[Lazyslob]

But you kind of implied it. Ignoring that none of your examples relate to flexibility, if Tony Horton is anywhere near the tipping point where size begins to limit it Ronnie Coleman and Kai Greene wouldn't be capable of the half the moves they do on stage. They're literally some of the most extremely muscled people who've ever existed. Size becoming a direct factor in reducing range of motion is something the ordinary person should not be overly concerned with.

As for your other point, yes muscle weighs a lot but it also moves you; see Konstantinovs doing 50 pullups with minimal kip or the Olympic lifter in the pic above. Once again, these are two exceedingly large individuals. The impact of increased mass on things such as bodyweight exercises has a multitude of variables feeding into it relating to both the individual and the training they're undertaking.


Define "ideal". Marius is too big to not gas out in MMA, but Cain Velasquez's legendary cardio wouldn't stop him from fading fast in a strongman contest.

Anyway, your Mario post made me realise that for a number of reasons, my ideal body is in fact Luigi's.

Marius Pudzianowski is a garbage MMA fighter. Dude gasses out in the first minute. I
ll say not ideal, but more efficient. Besides, you can't compare an MMA fight to a strongman competition. 2 Vastly different things.

 

[A More Normal Bird]

Marius Pudzianowski is a garbage MMA fighter. Dude gasses out in the first minute. I
ll say not ideal, but more efficient. Besides, you can't compare an MMA fight to a strongman competition. 2 Vastly different things.

That was my point. What is "ideal" or more efficient varies depending on the activity in question. Cain's build and balance of strength and endurance is suited to MMA/his style of fighting. Marius' build and balance of strength and endurance is not. Conversely, Cain would struggle even with the endurance based contests in a strongman event. An ultra-marathon runner would leave both gasping for air in his sport but probably be significantly slower over 100m.

 

[The Maverick]

Frank McGrath (the first guy in the first pics I posted, see below) has a size 29 waist. pretty fucking mind blowing IMO.

hard to believe, but these stats are always taken when BBers compete so it's legit.

Those insertions man. Life just ain't fair. Wonder how he has so much mass but still looks lean. Must have an insane work ethic.

 

[Lazyslob]

That was my point. What is "ideal" or more efficient varies depending on the activity in question. Cain's build and balance of strength and endurance is suited to MMA/his style of fighting. Marius' build and balance of strength and endurance is not. Conversely, Cain would struggle even with the endurance based contests in a strongman event. An ultra-marathon runner would leave both gasping for air in his sport but probably be significantly slower over 100m.

Cain would actually probably do pretty good on a marathon as would someone smaller. Cain also is a good wrestler and is very strong, he can manipulate other people in ways. When it comes to just lifting useless heavy shit, I guess they dont compete with Marius.

 

[A More Normal Bird]

Cain would actually probably do pretty good on a marathon as would someone smaller. Cain also is a good wrestler and is very strong, he can manipulate other people in ways. When it comes to just lifting useless heavy shit, I guess they dont compete with Marius.

That's why I said ultra-marathon Also, I find that in my daily life I encounter heavy things that I need to move more often than I engage people in unarmed combat, but I guess that's just me.

 

[Lazyslob]

That's why I said ultra-marathon Also, I find that in my daily life I encounter heavy things that I need to move more often than I engage people in unarmed combat, but I guess that's just me.

Oh, that's weird. I NEVER come across stuff that is insanely heavy that I need to move around. Funny how that works.

 

[Pavaloo]

Never had to move furniture around? Work with lumber or any building tools? Not saying that stuff is insanely heavy, but being able to lift insanely heavy makes everything else in your life a breeze

 

[Lazyslob]

yeah whatever

 

[Pavaloo]

weren't you just talking about stuff you do in your everyday life? whatever

edit:

That's why I said ultra-marathon Also, I find that in my daily life I encounter heavy things that I need to move more often than I engage people in unarmed combat, but I guess that's just me.

Oh, that's weird. I NEVER come across stuff that is insanely heavy that I need to move around. Funny how that works.

weird

 

[Lazyslob]

weren't you just talking about stuff you do in your everyday life? whatever

Uh, no?

 

[thenexus6]

Zac Efron isn't bad either

 

[BPoole]

I'd want a more leaner look compared to the meathead incredible hulk look. I have a pretty big frame though so it's hard to build lean muscle instead of just building mass.

 

[Horseticuffs]

I definitely want to make weight training a bigger part of my regimen this year. And, yeah, "Want" doesn't do shit compared to actually just doing it. It does me good to see some of the hairier dude in this thread, as the muscles work well with the hirsute look.

Like somebody said, all the shaved chests here can get to you. I understand that body hair doesn't gel with the aesthetics some dudes are going for but I just want a look that's uniquely "male", which is why I really appreciate pics like that red-haired dude holding the axe and Darth Wufei. I think the body and facial hair adds a lot to the effect.

I've really cut down on my body fat these past few years, from 350+ to 170-175, but I'm still a pretty "soft" dude and would classify myself as pudgy. I can't wait to get my body fat low enough to where that stops being an issue and increase my muscle mass noticeably.

 

[God Dayumm]

who darth? or me? lol

I'm nothing impressive, I still got a long way to go. Darth is mos def a beast

If you google image darthwuffei, there are plenty of results and some them are images of you lol. Maybe both of you are actors

Spoiler

and have scenes together

"D

 

[Chuck Norris]

Strength, stamina, genetics. Sonny Bill Wiliams.

I'd go a George Burgess if we are choosing NRL players

On the left. Although I'd happily accept Sams body on the right

 

[A More Normal Bird]

Oh, that's weird. I NEVER come across stuff that is insanely heavy that I need to move around. Funny how that works.

Sure, but strength is a capacity. The stronger you are, the easier/less tiring moving heavy things is. I only brought this up because of your "useless heavy shit" comment btw. Knowing how to fight might be cooler, but it's usefulness is debatable.

More to the point, I don't see why you're getting so worked up about this. I'm just pointing out that when you're talking about elite athletes, the concept of a blanket "ideal" goes out the window, because they have to specialise.

I'd want a more leaner look compared to the meathead incredible hulk look. I have a pretty big frame though so it's hard to build lean muscle instead of just building mass.

Most people will put on fat alongside muscle, it's not unusual. That's the only difference between "mass" and "lean muscle": the amount of fat. You could either cut down afterwards through your diet, or look into doing a clean bulk if you want to be really dedicated.

 

[segasonic]

But I already look good naked.

you can get that swastika tattooed in no time...

 

[Horseticuffs]

you can get that swastika tattooed in no time...

Just buy a sharpie and get to work!

 

[smurfx]

pride era wanderlei silva.

 

[olore]

Bruce Lee is pretty damn good.

He could hang glide on those wings. Surreal

 

[olore]

Fuck, I'm young and I don't even have that time.

Log off NeoGaf

 

[DMeisterJ]

Super lean
no muscle
super flat stomach
six pack

Quite easily attainable if I really tried (I'm already tall and almost skinny), but I don't really put forth any effort.

 

[Carbonox]

Attainable in the future if I put the work in - Frank Zane
If I could have any body in the world for free - Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime

I'm bulking at the moment and will end that in 3 weeks. Then it's time to cut and seen what I end with. D:

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

I feel like I finally have a body I am comfortable in. Its not what I think is the greatest I could be but its the best I think I can attain at this point in my life.

 

[DC R1D3R]

He could hang glide on those wings. Surreal

BOSS

@ BruceLeeRoy

get him girls looooool!!!

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Hahahaha Shownuff is pretty much the peak of perfection.

 

[TacticalFox88]

No contest

 

[DC R1D3R]

Hahahaha Shownuff is pretty much the peak of perfection.

hahaha

nah, you da man brotha!!!!

 

[twilitesparklemotion]

Fuck, this thread is either making me want to improve my physique or slowly turning me gay. I'm not quite sure.

Exactly my response.

I think I'd want something slimmer and well-defined.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I'm working on it!

 

[TheOctodad]

and

 

[DrFurbs]

I like the way I am Tbh. I think I'm in better shape now at 40 than I was in my 20s and 30s.

 

[Tragicomedy]

Sadly, the vast majority of these are not natural and rather unattainable without HGH/steroids. Particularly, the Superman and Captain America builds. Both actors juiced to get that size.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Sadly, the vast majority of these are not natural and rather unattainable without HGH/steroids. Particularly, the Superman and Captain America builds. Both actors juiced to get that size.

Nope. I am about as big as CA with none of that. In fact I didn't even use shakes just good ole fashioned eating.

There are lots of people in fitgaf that can achieve those results

 

[TacticalFox88]

Sadly, the vast majority of these are not natural and rather unattainable without HGH/steroids. Particularly, the Superman and Captain America builds. Both actors juiced to get that size.

Are you serious? Someone doesn't know how working out works.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Are you serious? Someone doesn't know how working out works.

Its a defeatist attitude that is really common. People like to pretend their ideal body is unattainable as a way to excuse their current bad habits.

 

[SeanR1221]

Its a defeatist attitude that is really common. People like to pretend their ideal body is unattainable as a way to excuse their current bad habits.

I think they underestimate the dedication and hardwork it can take.

A lot of people in here also saying "yeah I could look like that easily but I'm lazy"

On a serious note (yes my fat strong man was a joke) I just want to be the best me I can be. I'm still young (27) and have only been training for 2 years. I can't even imagine what I'd look like at say...35 with consistent training.

 

[Servbot24]

Zac Efron isn't bad either

This actually looks pretty ideal for anyone wanting to still look like a normal person.

 

[Aurongel]

Zac Efron isn't bad either

Yep, one of the few examples in this thread that doesn't look like a balloon animal.

 

[SeanR1221]

This actually looks pretty ideal for anyone wanting to still look like a normal person.

Yep, one of the few examples in this thread that doesn't look like a balloon animal.

I find these comments really odd and presumptuous too.

I wouldn't want to look like that. And I know my wife wouldn't want me to look like that either.

Different strokes

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

This actually looks pretty ideal for anyone wanting to still look like a normal person.

him and I have the same physique it looks like, though I may be slightly bigger.

its funny you mention looking like a normal person, because while working on Thursday, I had one customer ask me that his brother is looking to get bigger and what my diet and gym routine is, while another customer that day was an older man making wise jokes; calling me muscles and go lift some weights. He was being funny, but the cashiers are always telling me, " oh it was that cute guy who works out in apparel that helped me."

personally I'm just a normal person that's decent looking, that's all.

 

[Wiktor]

But you kind of implied it. Ignoring that none of your examples relate to flexibility, if Tony Horton is anywhere near the tipping point where size begins to limit it Ronnie Coleman and Kai Greene wouldn't be capable of the half the moves they do on stage. They're literally some of the most extremely muscled people who've ever existed.
.

You say that, but look at any video of Ronnie, he looks like he can barely walk. It might be just an impression, but it looks akward as hell.

 

[Servbot24]

I find these comments really odd and presumptuous too.

I wouldn't want to look like that. And I know my wife wouldn't want me to look like that either.

Different strokes

Nothing wrong with not wanting to be normal. Or average is maybe the more appropriate word.

 

[TheOctodad]

him and I have the same physique it looks like, though I may be slightly bigger.

its funny you mention looking like a normal person, because while working on Thursday, I had one customer ask me that his brother is looking to get bigger and what my diet and gym routine is, while another customer that day was an older man making wise jokes; calling me muscles and go lift some weights. He was being funny, but the cashiers are always telling me, " oh it was that cute guy who works out in apparel that helped me."

personally I'm just a normal person that's decent looking, that's all.

Not sure where you live, but healthy, semi-muscular, and strong are far from "average" anymore.

I was way overweight for most of my life, about two years ago I started hitting the gym hard. I've made tons of progress, but still far from where I want to be. I'm astonished though at the amount of people that think I'm some sort of super athletic guy. The reality is most people don't really lift weights at all.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Not sure where you live, but healthy, semi-muscular, and strong are far from "average" anymore.

I was way overweight for most of my life, about two years ago I started hitting the gym hard. I've made tons of progress, but still far from where I want to be. I'm astonished though at the amount of people that think I'm some sort of super athletic guy. The reality is most people don't really lift weights at all.

I live in Clearwater, fl. And yeah, I guess people compliment me all the time, both guys and women (women telling me I have an amazing body), but then there are people like Darth, and I don't get it. I almost feel embarrassed.

 

[TheOctodad]

I will say, there are a shitton of people on gear. I know a few people that everyone idolizes as people with amazing bodies and genetics and all of them do gear. They'll admit it if you're friends and close with them, but most pretend like it's just lifting weights and supplements to the average people they come across. Kinda bothers me. I don't mind if you want to do gear, but don't hide it and give people false expectations.

 

[Rayven_king]

Hard to find a visual since I want to look toned and curvy at the same time. A lot of pics have women with way less bodyfat than I'd like.

Lais deLeon

 

[TheOctodad]

Hard to find a visual since I want to look toned and curvy at the same time. A lot of pics have women with way less bodyfat than I'd like.

I think this gal hits a good medium between extremely fit while still maintaining some curves:

 

[Tragicomedy]

Nope. I am about as big as CA with none of that. In fact I didn't even use shakes just good ole fashioned eating.

There are lots of people in fitgaf that can achieve those results

Are you serious? Someone doesn't know how working out works.

Its a defeatist attitude that is really common. People like to pretend their ideal body is unattainable as a way to excuse their current bad habits.

I'd like to see your pictures where you look even remotely as jacked as Captain America. I'll wait.

It has nothing to do with a defeatist attitude, and I lift three days a week. It's simply common knowledge that actors use tons of gear to achieve their results for films. If you see a dude in a fitness magazine, they're likely juicing. People admit to it when asked.

A natural lifter does not attain the Superman build without lots of external help, and it's foolish to state otherwise.