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It's simple. Japanese games focus on gameplay and not on telling a story to make a political statement like most western releases.
It's simple. Japanese games focus on gameplay and not on telling a story to make a political statement like most western releases.
How so? I would say upcoming Astral Chain's combat system to control two characters to pull of combo is more unique than anything western developers done with their combat system.
What do you mean by that Lucy from Elfen Lied?Japanese video games usually created by entertainer (Kamiya-san tweet) while western by artist (Druckman comment)
There are politics in plenty of japanese games. Some even push said politics. Have you heard of a series called Metal Gear?Your point being?
Metal... GEAR?There are politics in plenty of japanese games. Some even push said politics. Have you heard of a series called Metal Gear?
There are politics in plenty of japanese games. Some even push said politics. Have you heard of a series called Metal Gear?
Even calling them last gen is an exaggeration.imo on average its the opposite. most japanese games that release over there look like last gen games. hell some look like ps2 games
their top notch japanese games are something else tho. from software games especially. infact its mostly just from software nowdays. it used to be a lot better for japan tho in PS1/PS2
era.
nintendo is hard to gauge because they work collectively to make games in many regions. its mostly japan but they do have staff from all over
i think your statement is definitely 100% accurate for games upto the ps3 generation. its been a bit downhill for them since.
There is a difference between complementing a good Gameplay with a plot with fictional politics, and making a game that entirely revolves about making a political statement about whatever it is that the west is Reeeing about.
Also you reminded me of this:
Metal... GEAR?
SMT deals with extreme classism and so does plenty of other JRPGs. To say Japanese games don't make political statements is innacurate.
SMT deals with extreme classism and so does plenty of other JRPGs. To say Japanese games don't make political statements is innacurate.
There is a difference between complementing a good Gameplay with a plot with fictional politics, and making a game that entirely revolves about making a political statement about whatever it is that the west is Reeeing about.
Also you reminded me of this:
No, I just wanted to make a thread that Danjin44 will 100% post in.Is this the monthly Japanese circle jerk thread?
The Witcher 3 was an anomaly in the Western game development scene. If other Western companies like EA,Activision,Bethesda,Ubisoft and others knew what CDPR was doing they would have advised them not to do it. It shouldn't have existed and i think not even CDPR will be able to ever recreate what they have achieved with TW3 as Cyberpunk will soon prove this.Japanese games are just better at everything. Western games do feature nicer graphics and there are some high points this generation that reach the level of based nipponic games (The Witcher 3, The Talos Principle and Inside immediately come to mind).
This is interesting as I once read a very in-depth article discussing cultural difference, specifically individualism vs collectivism. It sums up the design philosophy pretty accurately.I think western games offer more immersion and first person experiences while Japanese seem to prefer third person games. Japanese game in general feel better to play.
I think western games push genres forward and have been more innovative while Japanese games are more about refinement.
What do you mean by that Lucy from Elfen Lied?
I enjoy both, and was never really concerned where a game comes from.
I think you we are saying different things altogether at this point. The thread title is "what do japanese games do better and vice versa" but you are merely saying they have no politics because western games (some) carry social justice warrior revisions such as female soldiers? If you meant modern western games do wacky social politics trash better I agree with you.Or maybe that's your interpretation of SMT, but go ahead. Show me a japanese equivalent of this debacle:
It depends on which one. 2 and 4 deal with classism. For the most part religion is more of an idea given life that wipes off most of humanity because devilman inspiration. Also nihilism. Strange Journey's was essentially earth being pissed off at humans ffs. Persona hasn't really focused on psychology after 3 either and has actually become extremely cartoonish.I always saw the Shin Megami Tensei games as titles dealing with ethics, philosophy, and the question of religion, and it's spin-off Persona series with psychology and the question of individual freedom.
The Witcher 3 was an anomaly in the Western game development scene. If other Western companies like EA,Activision,Bethesda,Ubisoft and others knew what CDPR was doing they would have advised them not to do it. It shouldn't have existed and i think not even CDPR will be able to ever recreate what they have achieved with TW3 as Cyberpunk will soon prove this.
Now I regret playing Okami 10 years ago, seeing that that Hideki Kamiya guy is human garbage.
But, but he calls people insects...He really isn't.
Now I regret playing Okami 10 years ago, seeing that that Hideki Kamiya guy is human garbage.
What's wrong with insects? (he probably don't like them)
That man has pretty much set up impenetrable walls on social media, as people asked him the same generic questions over and over and over again. On the other hand, if I were a person like him, I would just leave it behind. I don't use social media, but could understand the position he's in.
In recent western games I feel like western developers much more concern about giving us "mature" and "immersive" experience. I mean look at RDR2, R* spend crazy amount of man power resource to make their world as detailed as possible with very detailed animation and with very mature and movie like story but they entirely forgot about they are making video game, they didn't think how the control would feel when you actually playing the game or the gun play or having nice mission structure. No, none of that because their number one goal was giving us mature and immersive experience.The Japanese try to make games as opposed to b-movies.
I wonder what western developers think of their games vs. Japan's? You'd think they'd at least try to learn...
No, it was more of a joke that you'd get once you played the game.That's... not real, is it? I would be that much more amped to play the game if girls swear at you.
I don't have a list of videogames were girls curse at you sorry.Not that I get off on that or anything...
The Japanese try to make games as opposed to b-movies.
I wonder what western developers think of their games vs. Japan's? You'd think they'd at least try to learn...
Currently both suck from over-monetization!- japanese : better fighting games.
- western : better sports games.
Nah. The new YS' gameplay did look pretty bad though. Which is weird since Dana played just fine.Currently both suck from over-monetization!
Kojima says hello...The Japanese try to make games as opposed to b-movies.
I wonder what western developers think of their games vs. Japan's? You'd think they'd at least try to learn...