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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

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I don't really give a damn about polyamory, do what you want, but I tend to think that it'll be a bad, jealousy- and insecurity-promoting sexual lifestyle for most that engage in it for the exact reason of the feelings of worthlessness and worry this guy expresses.
 
I don't understand how this works. I mean reading that and just imagining being in his shoes had me going nope nope nope nope nope get the hell out of here.
 
I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist.

I personally read this whole article as if Tobias Funke himself wrote it, and this line literally had me falling off my chair and laughing on the floor.

Meanwhile I wonder about this situation from the perspective from my boy Paulo.
 
I personally read this whole article as if Tobias Funke himself wrote it, and this line literally had me falling off my chair and laughing on the floor.

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I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist.

No I don't think you are a feminist. I think you are a cuckold.
 
I don't get how people can survive an open marriage. For a woman, all you have to be is willing, and you will find someone to fuck in 15 minutes. For a guy who is willing, there is no guarantee you'll find someone in the next month. I'd be kind of pissed of if my wife is getting laid left and right, and I have to wait for her to throw me a pity bang.
 
This man has no respect for himself. I've seen open relationships (not polygamy) work, but both partners need to be very honest with each other and mindful of their parter's feelings regarding it. That is not what appears to be happening in this case.
 
I don't get how people can survive an open marriage. For a woman, all you have to be is willing, and you will find someone to fuck in 15 minutes. For a guy who is willing, there is no guarantee you'll find someone in the next month. I'd be kind of pissed of if my wife is getting laid left and right, and I have to wait for her to throw me a potty bang.
If you're into potty bangs, no wonder it takes a month to get laid.
 
Open relationships are bullshit. Which one of your boyfriends/girlfriends would you visit first if both were sent to the ER? That's the only one that matters. End of story. You can't truly love more than one person at the same time.

Having multiple children is bullshit. Which one of your sons/daughters would you visit first if both were sent to the ER? That's the only one that matters. End of story. You can't truly love more than one person at the same time
 
Why you out there reading this specious invective? Why do you even have a link to that awful tumblr?
Like I said, I make no claims that the claims are true. Saw a bunch of people talking about it on Reddit, saying that Burch posted a lot of that info on his social media himself.
 
As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo.

Yeah, nothing more happy than someone drinking whiskey in an empty house while waiting for their wife to finish having sex with someone while listening to fucking LORETTA LYNN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_epxhmTnyA
 
I'm not gonna shit on open relationships, but I do think he should consider what benefits he receives from an open relationship beyond "it makes my partner happy". Marriage is about making both parties

The relationship is stronger because she's happy.

Do you want to be married to someone spiteful, depressed, and moody?

Or someone happy and warm because Paolo rocks get g spot?

Think of it like having a partner who's into furry cosplay.

She can go out and do that while you stay home and watch the game. Everybody wins
 
Reads like parody of some stereotypical white american male who is feeling all sorts of guilt that he thinks he can compensate for by indulging in cuckoldry and calling it some weird brand of feminism and claiming he is somehow enlightened
 
Every single time an article is posted on this site that features feminism or feminists in anything less than a positive light, nobody wants to believe it's true. Doesn't matter if it's true or not, people will go after the outlet or the author until the thread is dead or locked. There are at least 5-10 posts on this page alone that allude to the article being fake. It's a funny phenomenon that I suspect falls under the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy.

It's the reason I keep my 'feminist jazz hands' at the ready. Helps to remind me that sometimes stupid is just stupid.

If I see bullshit I'll call bullshit, sometimes when no one else is.

But yeah, this isn't one of those times. If this were fake or a "false flag" there are so many more places they could have taken it. People are rarely so subtle in their mockery that they leave people legitimately wondering.

The relationship is stronger because she's happy.

Do you want to be married to someone spiteful, depressed, and moody?

Or someone happy and warm because Paolo rocks get g spot?

Think of it like having a partner who's into furry cosplay.

She can go out and do that while you stay home and watch the game. Everybody wins

I think Toxi's suggesting he leave, not give her an ultimatum.

Having multiple children is bullshit. Which one of your sons/daughters would you visit first if both were sent to the ER? That's the only one that matters. End of story. You can't truly love more than one person at the same time

But you can love them to varying degrees. Whether it be your parents, your children, or whether you have to choose between your lover or your live-in babysitter, odds are you love one more than the other whether you can admit it to yourself or not.
 
I think Toxi's suggesting he leave, not give her an ultimatum.

But why?

No couple likes everything 100%

Imagine you had a girlfriend who was perfect for you, except for one thing...she hates video games. She satisfied yoy on every way, but she did not hit your competitive gaming spot.

She thinks they're childish. She just doesn't get it. There's no changing it.

Option one, you end things, even though everything else is amazing. I mean games are really important to you, but will you ever find a girl so perfect again?

Option two, you give up games to make her happy. You start to resent her. You're moody.

Hm, neither of these sound good.

Option three, you have an adult conversation. You agree that sometimes after work instead of coming home, you'll go out and play video games. You don't have to talk about it. It's just something you do on the side, away from the relationship.

And guess what, you're happy you get your games, and she's happy because you're in a good mood.

A relationship doesn't mean you have to do everything together.
 
I'm pretty sure this dude isn't cool with any of this, sure sounds like he's not and the whole piece seems like him trying to justify this to himself.

The truth is that very few people can make a poly relationship work.. just like few men truly can be a fuck buddy to a woman and not develop feelings.

Open relationships sound all fine and dandy until someone is plowing your gf/wife (or the other way around).

Also, equating it to feminism, nah, sorry most women also aren't cool with open relationships.
 
Also doesn't mean you'll just have to accept everything the other does and the article sounds like he actually isn't as OK with the situation as he pretends to be.

Life is all about compromise.

Sometimes your gf wants to eat at a restaurant you hate. You can either throw a fit until you get your way or hold your nose and make her happy.
 
I really don't think he is a cuckold. wouldn't a cuckold be happy with the situation?

I think this guy is just desperetaly trying to hold on to his wife and family and is very unhappy about it and is deluding himself into believing that not only being happy but even be a hero because of it.
I might be reading too much into his text, but from the general vibe I get I think he is neither.
 
Open relationships work with very very very few people, not saying they cant work, just saying hardly anyone can do it successfully.

That depends entirely on your definition of success.

We've been socialized to believe any relationship that doesn't lead to marriage and end when one of you dies is a failure. I think that's a gross misrepresentation of the variety of relationships that not only can and do exist, but succeed. The measure of a successful relationship, IMO, is how it's looked back upon once it does end (as all relationships that don't end in death do).

I don't look back at ex-girlfriends or ex-lovers as "failed relationships". They were largely positive experiences that let me learn more about who I am and what I want out of not only a relationship, but life in general.
 
I wonder if it's Anthony Burch writing this article...

http://lolitahartlessstuff.tumblr.c...ts-all-this-stuff-about-anthony-burch-and-ntr

(I've never heard about the Burch stuff until today, I have no claims as to its veracity)

Man reading that tumblr led me to a 4chan post with pictures about some guy stealing a skull from the catacombs in Paris and sticking his dick in it. I feel like I'm in the opening scenes of The Ring and it's going to climb out of my TV and kill me.
 
Legit all I can think when I see this is Arrested Development.

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Cuckold in the story is a sad beta-male loser and closet homosexual.
No such thing as an open relationship when in a marriage.
Defies definition of the meaning of a union.
Get a divorce or maybe don't get married to begin with ffs.

Alternative, SJW, modern feminist (sexist), cuckold, GAF just cant make a coherent argument these days to save their lives.

Its called modern feminism because if we called it man hate, males wouldn't help us
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Defending infidelity and having such a lack of respect for your partner especially when children are involved and calling it feminism is disgusting.

Your only shitting on your own principles, suffragettes who fought for the right to vote, legal entitlement, financial independence, to own property, equal opportunity in education and the workforce.

Normalcy on this site post 2014 is about as common as snow in the Sahara.

R.I.P. NeoGAF you had several good years.

Dear Feminists, I’m Sorry, I Was Wrong, I Take It All Back
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ists-im-sorry-i-was-wrong-i-take-it-all-back/

Research by David Buss provides us with insight into the cuck brain. His experiments on jealousy show that men are typically bothered more by sexual infidelity than emotional infidelity, while the opposite is true for women.
 
If he really is happy with the relationship, great. But when he writes stuff like this:

My open marriage has made heavy demands on my ability to silence the voice of doubt in my head, that gnawing feeling of worthlessness. But I find I can meet those demands, and that I am able to build my self-confidence out of nothing more than the basic dignity we all possess.

it sounds like he is actively forcing himself to accept the situation.
 
Life is all about compromise.

Sometimes your gf wants to eat at a restaurant you hate. You can either throw a fit until you get your way or hold your nose and make her happy.
Surely you see a difference between having you partner play video games you don't like or going to a restaurant you don't like, and he or she having sex with other people.

If an open marriage works, good for them. But if he just pretends he is OK with it, that's not a healthy relationship.
 
I'm happy for people who this works for but the author is a little bit stupid.

I meet a lot of people who say they’ll never get married because they don’t want to get divorced, and hearing it always makes me sad, because they are cutting themselves off from the possibility of the magic that happens when two people share their lives.

I already share my life with my girlfriend and it's great. Marriage would be little more than a formality and a tax break. It'd be nice to call her my wife but that's literally all that would change. Being married isn't going to make us any more or less likely to split up, and splitting up of any sort would be, outside the paperwork, as emotionally taxing as a divorce.

He says a few other things that reflect his narrow outlook on life and it feels like he's never seen the actual bigger picture. I don't understand what any of this has to do with being a feminist, yes we're all self-possessed individuals and in the sense of equality than yes this is feminism. But that idea doesn't necessarily lead to polygamy/open marriage and I feel like there's a lot of these logical jumps in his thinking.
 
I really don't think he is a cuckold. wouldn't a cuckold be happy with the situation?

I think this guy is just desperetaly trying to hold on to his wife and family and is very unhappy about it and is deluding himself into believing that not only being happy but even be a hero because of it.
I might be reading too much into his text, but from the general vibe I get I think he is neither.

No, I'm with you. He says he still feels jealousy and insecurity when she goes out, and that "recently" he almost convinced himself he "lost her forever" to a guy she was hooking up with because she didn't get back to him for a few hours. He states that he has partaken in the fruits of the open relationship, but is vague about it and immediately admits she goes out more. We know the thing was her idea, proposed to him after years of marriage, and that the writer is a "stay-at-home dad" who is economically dependent on the wife. Then there is the incredibly forced feminism angle that he admits he concocted, not the wife. There are plenty of reasons to conclude what you have.

I also find the question about sex between the two of them interesting. What is their sex life like now? I think it's a relevant topic of discussion when an open relationship is formed years after the relationship has begun. I won't assume too much by his not addressing it, but I at least wonder if there is any romance between the two of them left.
 
Straight males are still, at large, wired to be possessive about their women sexuality. I am pretty sure that if it wasn't for these ideas of "my wife belongs to me" (and the insecurity such ideas create) most straight males wouldn't be so put off by open relationships.

I am not arguing that open relationships are the "real" state of a commitment, but just trying to explain why there is a disproportion between gay and straight males willing to have them.

stupidity

Lol too much insecurity. Go back to /pol/.
 
Also:

Monogamy meant I controlled her sexual expression

No, monogamy means she controls her sexual expression. It works both ways, most men are mentally balls deep in every beautiful woman they see, and they make the conscious decision not to physically pursue these thoughts because that's the commitment. It's not much of a commitment without these kinds of little sacrifices.
 
Straight males are still, at large, wired to be possessive about their women sexuality. I am pretty sure that if it wasn't for these ideas of "my wife belongs to me" (and the insecurity such ideas create) most straight males wouldn't be so put off by open relationships.

do you think straight females are less put off by open relationships?
 
What a loser.

I can't believe it.

If I knew him I'd tease him to death lol.

"so what's up man, oh your wife out again, and you hanging out with me? Yeah that's true feminism I guess!"
 
Going out alone to hooking up with others was an easy transition. It does work both ways and, yes, I too enjoy sexual carte blanche. I just don’t use mine as much as my wife uses hers. What’s important is equality of opportunity, not outcome.

I couldn't help laughing at this bit. It is the exact opposite of what feminism seems to be about these days.
 
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