Gravijah said:there's always the jun---
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Gravijah said:there's always the jun---
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Amir0x said:I know it. But fuck Nintendo needs competition. No competition is clearly bad for everyone.
Personally I'm not excited about MP gaming on 3G. As far as I know, it is the most battery-taxing feature on any portable, and unless the "3-5 hours" estimation was made with the 3G in mind (thus ignoring the Wifi only model), I don't think it'll be worth it.gofreak said:If the developers in question can actually make online games that are playable on a typical 3g connection, then surely that is A Good Thing?
I am glad that virtually all of them isolated interface and connectivity possibilities as their highlights. That bodes well for differentiation that PSP arguably lacked.
timetokill said:Nintendo has competition, though. What's the problem?
Gravijah said:there's always the jun---
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synt4x said:What happened with that btw? Any updates? Has there been a date released?
It's like they had that event last October and then disappeared.
I don't know if it's fair to say that the PSP made barely a burp in Japan.Amir0x said:PSP only barely made a burp back in Japan, and in the US the thing is shit.
jackdoe said:I don't know if it's fair to say that the PSP made barely a burp in Japan.
Amir0x said:If NGP is priced as high as some of these people are thinking (and I'm thinking), then it'll be a failure and no one will make games for it and the market will be shackled by Nintendo once more.
Yeah, the PSP took a while to REALLY take off, but the last couple of years have been a tight race and it even pipped the DS last year. I hope we get this kind of competition from the get go. I am very disappointed with some of the decisions made by Nintendo with the 3DS and on the other hand am pleasantly surprised and impressed by the NGP in general. My only concern is that developers always say stuff when a new hardware is out, let's hope they are really serious about the NGP and not just mouthing off (then again they'd be stupid to since the PSP is quite big in Japan)jackdoe said:I don't know if it's fair to say that the PSP made barely a burp in Japan.
Spiegel said:Did you actually read the op? Most of them are expecting the same price as the 3DS or slightly higher
Amir0x said:You need viable competition to force Nintendo to not be a shithead company as they are naturally inclined to be.
PSP only barely made a burp back in Japan, and in the US the thing is shit.
If Nintendo continues to dominate in the handheld space, we'll continue to be held back by their usually cheap-ass decisions. We need alternatives that are viable and at the very least moderately successful. Hell, even given PSP's low status, I do not doubt for a second there were one or two 3DS decisions that were natural responses to some of the PSP's old features.
If NGP is priced as high as some of these people are thinking (and I'm thinking), then it'll be a failure and no one will make games for it and the market will be shackled by Nintendo once more.
Which is why I hope Sony finds some way to undercut the 3DS. Not likely, but if they did it, it would completely fuck up Nintendo's game plan.Amir0x said:Ok, it made a really big burp. But it is not really heated competition for the DS even in Japan; and it's not a viable worldwide competitor which is just as necessary in being considered a true contender.
If Sony was in charge, they'd need a viable competitor too or they get too big for their bridges. Look what they did with PS3 because they had no viable competitors at the time.
Hell, the 3DS is $250. Iwata said partially this was because they heard fans reaction to the reveal and knew they could charge that much. This is the sort of thing that happens when there are no alternatives. Companies charge more, they make more conservative design decisions, consumers hurt.
H_Prestige said:NGP will be $250-300 at launch. Anything beyond that is simply wishful thinking given the highly conservative nature of the device and the hints Sony has dropped about their pricing strategy.
H_Prestige said:wishful thinking
H_Prestige said:I think Nintendo just does whatever it wants to do, whether or not they're getting their ass kicked or dominating.
NGP will be $250-300 at launch. Anything beyond that is simply wishful thinking given the highly conservative nature of the device and the hints Sony has dropped about their pricing strategy.
Amir0x said:highly conservative
wishful thinking if it's more than $300?
Man you have some WEIRD fucking ideas lol
OldJadedGamer said:Who knows, it' could be $250 with a forced value pack of headphones and a case for $75-$100 dollars more.
H_Prestige said:Every 2011 smartphone/tablet is using the same tech.
Master Ninja style.Yousuke Hayashi (Tecmo Koei/Team Ninja)
He's interested in the system's specs and online environment.
Until now, they've developed games under the idea that people differentiate between games that are played in the home and on the go. However, in the future, you could be able to continue playing one game on both NGP and PS3.
He'd personally buy the system whatever the price, but as a developer he wants the price to be affordable enough that many players can buy it
Amir0x said:We already know it's going to come in two different versions - one with 3G and one without. Not unlikely to see a huge price increase on the 3G version
Amir0x said:We already know it's going to come in two different versions - one with 3G and one without. Not unlikely to see a huge price increase on the 3G version
False. The rest of your commentary is now clearly fantasy
H_Prestige said:Ok fine, not every. But extremely common. Iphone/ipad and Galaxy S devices are based on it.
Amir0x said:You need viable competition to force Nintendo to not be a shithead company as they are naturally inclined to be.
PSP only barely made a burp back in Japan, and in the US the thing is shit.
If Nintendo continues to dominate in the handheld space, we'll continue to be held back by their usually cheap-ass decisions. We need alternatives that are viable and at the very least moderately successful. Hell, even given PSP's low status, I do not doubt for a second there were one or two 3DS decisions that were natural responses to some of the PSP's old features.
If NGP is priced as high as some of these people are thinking (and I'm thinking), then it'll be a failure and no one will make games for it and the market will be shackled by Nintendo once more.
gcubed said:my pentium pro was based on the core i5 i have
H_Prestige said:I think Nintendo just does whatever it wants to do, whether or not they're getting their ass kicked or dominating.
NGP will be $250-300 at launch. Anything beyond that is simply wishful thinking given the highly conservative nature of the device and the hints Sony has dropped about their pricing strategy.
timetokill said:The PSP did pretty well in Japan, at least, and Japan is what informs most of Nintendo's decisions (sometimes unfortunately). That said, Sony is not really Nintendo's only competition.
And with that in mind, I don't really see how the handheld space was "shackled" at all by the Nintendo DS. It did a lot of inventive things and expanded the space, as well as provided one of the best gaming libraries of all time. What's the issue?
RurouniZel said:Seriously, if they want the NGP to be successful in the West, the absolute best thing they could do would be to include an HDMI out on the system so that all games could be outputted to an HD television.
Granted, it'd have to be a long cord for that to be comfortable...
Ezalc said:So what do the good Japanese developers say?
Zing!
StevieP said:Because selling the system at a loss worked so well for Sony's bookkeepers when it came to the PS3. They're still suffering for that.
H_Prestige said:Ok fine, you can all continue the fantasy. NGP will cost $350-500 at launch and will be sold at a loss.
StevieP said:Because selling the system at a loss worked so well for Sony's bookkeepers when it came to the PS3.
That's your view on the DS legacy? Or like one example of the bad..Amir0x said:It held back handheld gaming technology by over six years; all the biggest games went to its N64-era crapware technology and all 3D games that came to the platform unanimously and without exception suffered for it. Other features, such as online functionality, were also complete fucking terrible.
For that matter I wouldn't pay any more than $200 so I guess I'm not the market for this little toy.crazy monkey said:34800 is $425 29800 is $363
Amir0x said:It held back handheld gaming technology by over six years; all the biggest games went to its N64-era crapware technology and all 3D games that came to the platform unanimously and without exception suffered for it. Other features, such as online functionality, were also complete fucking terrible.
Amir0x said:It held back handheld gaming technology by over six years; all the biggest games went to its N64-era crapware technology and all 3D games that came to the platform unanimously and without exception suffered for it. Other features, such as online functionality, were also complete fucking terrible.
StevieP said:Because selling the system at a loss worked so well for Sony's bookkeepers when it came to the PS3. They're still suffering for that.
H_Prestige said:The PSP's network capabilities were pretty weak. No proper PSN integration and only WiFi B.