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What will be the next game to announce a wave based survival mode?
- Thread starter Neuromancer
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It is a much better way to tick the multiplayer box as far as the use of resources from a single player game goes. I think most mechanics based games should have some form of the single session just play it mode.
To be fair The Battle Tower/Subway in Pokemon games is the same idea of Horde mode since it's "wave" based and ramps up in difficulty and you fight a final "boss" at a specific wave in each of the different versions.
Best part is you can do it co-op online in Platinum/HG/SS, dunno why that was removed in Black/White.
Nocturnowl
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Yeah but they weren't super brothers back then!
Neuromancer
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Yeah I don't know. I was in a weird mood earlier, haha.
Damn looks like I'm out of date in the pokemon world.
Either way, I meant more of fighting increasingly difficult wild pokemon as opposed to trainers, and maybe having some sort of a time limit to defeat each one...
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The Technomancer
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Reading some of the responses in here I'm wondering how many people caught the sarcasm in the OP
Either way, I dont mind arcade survival score attacks.Glass Rebel
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fixed.
Bren McGuire
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No, UT 2003 had a Horde Mode.
NinjaBoiX
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So I guess Cliffy did come up with it all along.
totally my thought when I read the thread title
NinjaBoiX
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Yeah, OP kind of downplays the appeal describing it as "hiding in a corner shooting guys across the map till you die". A good horde mode has a varied enough enemy set to keep you on your toes, a diverse weapon set, and an incentive to move around the battlefield. Gears for example.
I don't see how it's seen as such a cheap cop-out. Yeah, it's generally just slightly tweaked MP maps flooded with enemies at regular intervals, and is probably a thrifty venture for the studio, but does that taint it's appeal? It's usually offered on top of standard multi, a campaign which is often co-op and occasionally a spec ops/arcade mode. It's not like horde mode has come in and killed the fun for everyone else, it's just another option. And as it's so cheap to implement, it's easy to see why it's so prolific.
I don't see how it's seen as such a cheap cop-out. Yeah, it's generally just slightly tweaked MP maps flooded with enemies at regular intervals, and is probably a thrifty venture for the studio, but does that taint it's appeal? It's usually offered on top of standard multi, a campaign which is often co-op and occasionally a spec ops/arcade mode. It's not like horde mode has come in and killed the fun for everyone else, it's just another option. And as it's so cheap to implement, it's easy to see why it's so prolific.
HigherLevel
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Someone needs to make a survival mode that's actually different. Only game you actually had to work in was R6V.
Femmeworth
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I wish Vanquish had a survival mode, it could have used some more content.
NinjaBoiX
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Mercs wasn't too much like horde really. It was more a time attack arcade mode. It doesn't have that last stand, survival aspect. Or team work. Or waves. Or more than, like, three different enemy types.
br0ken_shad0w
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I want to see more game modes that are more similar to Defend Your Castle (or a hands-on tower defense) than simply taking regular gameplay and levels and just having endless enemies spawning in. OP is right, that's shit's boring.
Fortnite sounds like what I'm thinking of, but no gameplay vids yet.
Fortnite sounds like what I'm thinking of, but no gameplay vids yet.
Gears is a very bad example. 2 was heavy on everyone posting up at the power-weapon spawn/narrow hallway, and GoW3 added a base-building element that all but commands you to camp in one spot. 50 waves with difficulty that flatlines after every 10th wave is insipid and draws the game out way past its welcome, games take forrrrreeeeeevvvveeeerrrrr and you're always guaranteed a few waves of just holding your dick and waiting for a couple of wretches and drones to trickle out no matter where you start.
Beast is pretty fun though. 12 waves is a nice sweet spot, the Locust you can use are nice and varied, and the difficulty has a nice clean upward curve.
Unless you all go for cheap units in early waves and then just steamroll the last few as Berserkers, but that's fun in its own way, too.
IdreamofHIME
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RE3's Merc mode isn't the same as Merc mode in RE4, RE5 or RE:Mercs...or "horde".
RE3's Merc mode was mission based about rescuing a certain number of hostages within a timelimit against non-respawning enemies while gaining small time bonuses for killing.The best tactic to use is to avoid killing altogether and focus on dodging to earn time, unless you could guarantee a multiple kill bonus through barrels etc.
The other Merc modes were only focused on surviving as long as possible against endless waves of enemies appearing until you die or run out of ammo resulting in the timer to count out due to lack of bonuses.
I hate this crap in Uncharted 3. It's brainless, dull, repetitive and cheap.
Uncharted 3 did something like this. It's really poor to say the least.
Uncharted 3 did something like this. It's really poor to say the least.
Well sure, I dislike it as well when it's poorly made, but that's true for any game mode.
It was was fun at it's most basic when I played it with Unreal so many years ago and all those waves, but it got boring quickly. Make it fit the game, do score attack that isn't just "survive as long as you can", tell a different story beyond just the game, or give so many different ways to play it feels fresh each time (like Anarchy Reigns looks to).
If it's just "survive" or terribly made like a couple already mentioned, at least it's quite easy to just ignore.
As for the next game to have a survival mode? I look forward to a Katamari Damacy survival mode. Ever increasing in sized creatures and objects. Just imagine it.
It was was fun at it's most basic when I played it with Unreal so many years ago and all those waves, but it got boring quickly. Make it fit the game, do score attack that isn't just "survive as long as you can", tell a different story beyond just the game, or give so many different ways to play it feels fresh each time (like Anarchy Reigns looks to).
If it's just "survive" or terribly made like a couple already mentioned, at least it's quite easy to just ignore.
As for the next game to have a survival mode? I look forward to a Katamari Damacy survival mode. Ever increasing in sized creatures and objects. Just imagine it.
How long can the Giraffe last?
GillianSeed79
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I'm pretty sure Perfect Dark did this on the N64, but why has no one done the following:
You are playing a SP shooter. The enemies are actually human players with limited health. If you, the enemy, die you spawn to the next AI enemy and become it. No need for enemy AI. No need for tacked on horde mode. It would actually give you an incentive to play through a campaign more than once. It'd be like Left 4 Dead mp.
You are playing a SP shooter. The enemies are actually human players with limited health. If you, the enemy, die you spawn to the next AI enemy and become it. No need for enemy AI. No need for tacked on horde mode. It would actually give you an incentive to play through a campaign more than once. It'd be like Left 4 Dead mp.
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This should be good.
Mercenaries is already great, eager to see what they come up with in 6.Modern Warfare 3's horde mode is best in class. It's fast, it's tactical, there's plenty of upgrades to bulk yourself up with. Only downside is two players only. I also wish they broke out the difficulty separate from the maps, since easy is too easy and the hardest ramps up way too fast.
Noisepurge
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the original Aliens VS Predator game on the PC had the best horde mode map, the one with the bunker. Classic! That was the year 1999.