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[TheSpoiler]

So recently, I've had a little trouble with my dream job. Turns out, due to odd management structuring, I'm on the cusp of possibly being fired. I know this because I've had several meetings with them over very, very dumb things.

For example, two weeks ago I had a meeting where I was notified that my work quality was improving, and then a day later, it was the opposite. When I asked what was the issue, they told me it was a single, solitary issue. I won't go into what that particular issue is because who knows who lurks these forums, but let's just say that my constant overflow of work and effort I put into my job should negate that.

But here we are. I feel like this week is the week I might be fired. Thing is, I have interviews lined up, but I'm afraid of getting fired and then having those places call or ask my previous job as to why I left.

So either I stay until the axe comes down for dumb reasons, or I put in my two weeks and am thrusted back into the world of job hunting. Usually, the obvious answer is to wait it out and see, but I'm almost positive the firing is going to happen as soon as this week.

What do, NeoGAF?

 

[terribletwo]

Gotta start wearing pants to work bruh

 

[TheSpoiler]

Gotta start wearing pants to work bruh

Not even worth it.

By the way, people are dropping ship like crazy. Now I know why.

 

[Kama_1082]

most professional employers only call your previous place of employment for verification that you worked there on the dates listed on your resume.

 

[infiniteloop]

don't think i've ever had a new employer call a previous one, unless i listed them as a reference.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Well, if you get fired you can apply for benefits but if you resign it looks better. Tough spot OP.

 

[.la1n]

most professional employers only call your previous place of employment for verification that you worked there on the dates listed on your resume.

This is correct. That's assuming they even bother calling references at all.

 

[DrForester]

I would continue on in your job search, but not quit until you have one lined up.

 

[Kama_1082]

This is correct. That's assuming they even bother calling references at all.

most don't. I know the place I work doesn't

 

[TheSpoiler]

I would continue on in your job search, but not quit until you have one lined up.

I almost want to, but this week I've already run into the issue of scheduling interviews when I can't take off work to do so.

 

[Sch1sm]

Well, if you get fired you can apply for benefits but if you resign it looks better. Tough spot OP.

This.

Besides, unless you plan on using them a reference like someone stated further up ^ it really doesn't matter. You don't even have to mention you were fired, slant by omission and use another reference.

Spoiler

Moneymoneymoney, that unemployment insurance kind.

 

[TheSpoiler]

So there's no way for a new employer to check with the old one as to what happened?

 

[Kama_1082]

I almost want to, but this week I've already run into the issue of scheduling interviews when I can't take off work to do so.

you can't call in sick? I did that when I was miserable with my other position. Granted it was for another department, but still. My asshole boss never approved PTO because we were so "busy" but had no problem with calling in sick..what an asshole.

 

[terrisus]

So recently, I've had a little trouble with my dream job.

I was going to say that this sounded familiar...

Dream job (might have) turned to shit

 

[DoktorEvil]

I was going to say that this sounded familiar...

Dream job (might have) turned to shit

I recognized the OP from his previous thread as well. Lol.

When you work for a place that has weekday parties instead of focusing on producing solid work, you might be in the wrong office.

If you wish to stay in the field, find out if most client based marketing offices operate like that or similarly. If so, leave and construct a story you can use as you submit your resume in the same field.

If you do not, wait for them to lay you off. Collect unemployment. Find a less paying, less intensive job in marketing.

So there's no way for a new employer to check with the old one as to what happened?

YMMV. HR laws are different across different fields and different states.

Generally, they confirm employment dates with your reference.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

Wait to get fired. Collect unemployment till you find a new job.

 

[Malreyn]

Well, if you get fired you can apply for benefits but if you resign it looks better. Tough spot OP.

Only if the company doesn't contest it when applying after being fired

 

[Gambit 1138]

Wait to get fired. Collect unemployment till you find a new job.

seems like bad advice.

He should stick it out as long as he can and then properly put in a two week notice and leave on decent terms.

 

[LifEndz]

Get fired. unemployment ftw

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

I was going to say that this sounded familiar...

Dream job (might have) turned to shit

lol I thought OP was familiar.

 

[John Kowalski]

don't worry man you're not gonna be fired, it's just weird administration stuff it's gonna be ok

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

seems like bad advice.

He should stick it out as long as he can and then properly put in a two week notice and leave on decent terms.

That seems like bad advice. Why leave and be able to collect no benefits if he has nothing definite to go to in the future? He should at least get the benefits if he did the job. That's what they are there for.

 

[Gambit 1138]

That seems like bad advice. Why leave and be able to collect no benefits if he has nothing definite to go to in the future? He should at least get the benefits if he did the job. That's what they are there for.

Collecting unemployment for the hell of it seems pretty low end

 

[TheSpoiler]

don't worry man you're not gonna be fired, it's just weird administration stuff it's gonna be ok

Nope, this is definitely happening. I've been having a bunch of meetings this whole month to discuss my "progress", and it's been unreal. I'll ask them on what I need to improve, and it'll be a single thing.

Not that I want to work here anyway. It's incredibly insulting and embarrassing to be treated like this.

And unemployment isn't really a big deal. My girlfriend makes enough that we'd be fine for a while.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Leave. Getting fired is bad, getting fired by incompetent management is worse.

 

[potam]

I was under the impression that employers could only verify dates that you worked there, not the conditions under which you stopped working there (in the US, at least). Employers would rather you quit than fire you, since they'll have to pay towards the unemployment.

I could be totally wrong though.

 

[numble]

Collecting unemployment for the hell of it seems pretty low end

What if he can't get a job for 5 months? Interviews lined up can always fall through on getting the actual job. Its not low end.

 

[Replicant]

Find a new job first. Never ever voluntarily go out of job unless you already have another one lined up or will receive decent compensation.

 

[TheSpoiler]

To further explain, I've had to take work home more because of management problems, and while I'm not fully opposed to that, if I approach them and relate my problems, they'll see it as a form of not being good enough to do the work. So I, and others, haul our computers home in droves to complete our deadlines.

What makes this worse is that it's making me depressed. I can barely enjoy myself outside of work because the creeping feeling of inadequacy in regards of my job, even though I know I'm better than this.

And what makes this even more problematic is my schedule. I have no time for interviews, and taking off days is a big no-no where I work, even when my PTO kicks in.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

To further explain, I've had to take work home more because of management problems, and while I'm not fully opposed to that, if I approach them and relate my problems, they'll see it as a form of not being good enough to do the work. So I, and others, haul our computers home in droves to complete our deadlines.

What makes this worse is that it's making me depressed. I can barely enjoy myself outside of work because the creeping feeling of inadequacy in regards of my job, even though I know I'm better than this.

And what makes this even more problematic is my schedule. I have no time for interviews, and taking off days is a big no-no where I work, even when my PTO kicks in.

Do you not have sick days?

 

[TheSpoiler]

Do you not have sick days?

Not till a certain amount of time.

 

[Kozak]

Hang in there OP. Don't let their bullshit phase you.

Go to work and put in your best effort.

If they sack you, stand tall and leave with your head held high.

Don't let these pricks get to you.

 

[TheSpoiler]

According to one of my friends who works here, he is in the same situation as me, and got an email last week that if he fucked up before his next review, they'd can him. Problem is, his review is literally only in the span of three days.

 

[TheSpoiler]

I ended up leaving work today with a two-weeks notice put on their desk. I mean that metaphorically, but it's the only option. From the email they gave me (the one my friend got as well), it didn't seem like there's much, as I only have two days to turn my shit around.

 

[Kieli]

I ended up leaving work today with a two-weeks notice put on their desk. I mean that metaphorically, but it's the only option. From the email they gave me (the one my friend got as well), it didn't seem like there's much, as I only have two days to turn my shit around.

Based on what you told me, I think management is trying to passively threat people to quit so they don't get their severances/benefits.

Those performance reviews with small errors and nitpicky shit sounds like a complete farce. Or the managers are inept and assholes.

 

[Koki]

I think you guys put too much weight on the idea of getting fired leaving a "permanent stain" on you for the rest of your professional career.

I'm sure there are very few exceptions that exist, but for the most part I highly doubt an employer is aggressively calling your previous job to see why you were fired.

You guys are way too paranoid.

 

[ultraspank]

To further explain, I've had to take work home more

Don't do that.

because of management problems

Did you put them in front of their mistakes? Might be the problem. Most of times they can't take it and just put the blame on you.

 

[commish]

I ended up leaving work today with a two-weeks notice put on their desk. I mean that metaphorically, but it's the only option. From the email they gave me (the one my friend got as well), it didn't seem like there's much, as I only have two days to turn my shit around.

Should have rode it out. I don't think you can even get unemployment if you left on your own.

Anyway, good luck!

 

[Ventara]

From what I've read, getting fired is better as there are benefits. I say look for a new job, and if you find one and are still working, only then should you quit. Don't quit unless you have a job ready.

 

[TheSpoiler]

Based on what you told me, I think management is trying to passively threat people to quit so they don't get their severances/benefits.

Those performance reviews with small errors and nitpicky shit sounds like a complete farce. Or the managers are inept and assholes.

Probably both!

I think you guys put too much weight on the idea of getting fired leaving a "permanent stain" on you for the rest of your professional career.

I'm sure there are very few exceptions that exist, but for the most part I highly doubt an employer is aggressively calling your previous job to see why you were fired.

You guys are way too paranoid.

Better safe than sorry, but I can say this because I have stuff lined up for interviews and such.

Don't do that.

Did you put them in front of their mistakes? Might be the problem. Most of times they can't take it and just put the blame on you.

I did, but then they flip it on me and say I'm not working hard enough. Which is hilarious considering I do more than what's told of me.

Should have rode it out. I don't think you can even get unemployment if you left on your own.

Anyway, good luck!

My girlfriend makes enough to support us, and I'm not exactly barren when it comes to offers right now. What makes it hard is if I stayed, scheduling these interviews would have led to a problem.

 

[Kozak]

You done goofed brah. They got to you. They won. You lost.

By quitting you pretty much admit that your performance at work was at risk of getting sacked. Now when your next employer asks you why you left your previous job what answer are you going to give? That you didn't get along with management? Differences in opinion? You wanted a new challenge (after 4 months only)? That you didn't like the place?

New employers will now have more reason to investigate into your old work and why you left after such a short period of time.

edit: WRT to interviews, your contract would have had conditions in which your employer is required to allow you time to attend interviews. Of course your company would try to make you feel like this wasn't possible as they don't want you to do such a thing but it is your right as an employee and you should have stuck to your rights.

 

[dextran]

it's honestly pretty simple. you keep the job until you have an offer from a new one.
then you quit. 2 weeks is nice, but if you have to leave suddenly you go.
you have to look out for you, and no one else. corporations look after themselves - don't let anyone fool you otherwise.

keep interviewing. get an offer. quit. enjoy your new job.

 

[numble]

My girlfriend makes enough to support us, and I'm not exactly barren when it comes to offers right now. What makes it hard is if I stayed, scheduling these interviews would have led to a problem.

That really doesn't matter. You might take months to get a job, the job might not want to start you until their next fiscal year or you might want to start a little bit later. Unemployment can mean several thousand dollars (that you had paid taxes for) to help things go more easily.

If you're worried that the next employer is going to aggressively check how you left, your boss can still say, "he quit, but that was because we were going to fire him."

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

Should never have put two weeks in. They either fire you, or if you have another job lined up, you go there.