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What's the relationship like between Marvel and DC these days?

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I remember we got some rad comic books, but nothing else beyond that. If anything i think DC would be open to the idea of another crossover.
 
Super icy, as I understand things.

The exclusivity contracts and poaching of talent really impacted relations.

I doubt we'll be seeing a cross-over anytime in the near future.
 
Two sets of man-children who don't realise that teaming up for a comic-book crossover today would be the only way the 616/New 52 will come close to selling a million comics.
 
Not tops.

The sad thing about the ice wall between WB and Disney is that even with all this '80s reboot/sequel mania happening a Roger Rabbit sequel is not in the cards. :(
 
Eek! My mind didn't even jump to comic books, I thought this topic would be about the Marvel Cinematic Universe crossing over with the movies that are about to happen in the DCU.
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Both companies have writers and artists with some bad blood from the other. Pretty sure Mark Waid is still taking a scorched earth policy with DC.
 
Rooster12 said:
Marvel is still much more popular. It's always been like that.
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The difference is that Batman alone is more popular than 90% of what marvel has to offer.

Last year I tried a few of the top offerings from both... I just couldn't get into Hawkeye or Daredevil, now Swamp thing and Batman were great.
 
phyrlord said:
The difference is that Batman is more popular than 90% of what marvel has to offer.

Last year I tried a few of the top offerings from both... I just couldn't get into Hawkeye or Daredevil, now Swamp thing and Batman were great.
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Aren't Marvel consistently outselling Batman comics as well?
 
lazygecko said:
Aren't Marvel consistently outselling Batman comics as well?
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Only the big event books and number 1s. And Star Wars.
As far as standard issues go, Batman is pretty much head and shoulders above everything else. Only Amazing Spider-Man comes close, but even then, it's nowhere near as consistent.
 
Guy Legend said:
Spiderman generates the most revenue worldwide and it's not close.
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That would be the 10% and a close look suggests the Batman mainline has outsold the ASM this year. (Batman took time off because of convergience and I'm not sure if ASM is doing the same for Secret Wars)
 
DeathyBoy said:
Two sets of man-children who don't realise that teaming up for a comic-book crossover today would be the only way the 616/New 52 will come close to selling a million comics.
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They're probably over that. Secret wars did 550k issues, but monthlies are no longer the majority of sales, trades took them over years ago. Toss digital on top of that with better margins, and Marvel is doing quite well.

Edit: plus movie and merchandise sales mean issues are pretty much a rounding error to the overall bottom line
 
Busaiku said:
Only the big event books and number 1s. And Star Wars.
As far as standard issues go, Batman is pretty much head and shoulders above everything else. Only Amazing Spider-Man comes close, but even then, it's nowhere near as consistent.
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This isn't accurate.
 
Busaiku said:
As a brand, not the comic series alone.
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I'd like to see year over year numbers... the report that came out was citing numbers after ASM and Avengers released to the box-office. It's already a 2-3 year old report and it would be interesting to see just how much of an impact the Avengers/ASM films had on those.
 
Manmademan said:
This isn't accurate.
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I've just looked over the last two months to double check and the only books which are outselling Batman are #1s, events or Star Wars.

July 2015
1 Secret Wars
2 Star Wars Lando
3 Civil War
4 Star Wars
5 Batman

June 2015

1 Secret Wars
2 Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows
3 Star Wars 6
4 Justice League of America
5 Batman
 
DC actually was beating Marvel at times in the past few years which hadn't happened in decades I believe. But once Marvel began to pump out Star Wars they pretty much took back things rather well.
 
I would love a upto date Spiderman and Batman crossover.

*Spiderman enters stately Wayne Manor*

"Damn dude are you broke or something? I could float you a few bucks. Just call my squad and let me know"
 
Escape Goat said:
Not that Im paying real close attention but if there is a fued going on theyre keeping it quiet.
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It's not a feud, they're just separate companies with no interest in a working relationship. The situation in the '90s where Marvel and DC were able to work together to do the Marvel vs. DC/Amalgam stuff is unlikely to ever come around again.
 
It's more "what's the relationship like between Disney and WB?".

A crossover comicbook event right now at the height of the superhero movie craze would be a huge shot in the arm to the comic book industry.
 
I thought there was supposed to be more JLA / Avengers stuff and of course...the great white whale of crossovers, New Mutants + Teen Titans, which at this point could be Young Justice/Teen Titans + New Mutants/Young Avengers. But the greatest unfinished love story in comics is Robin + Jubilee. Oh well would be cool to see Nightwing and Jubes in a book one last time.
 
i still hold hope for a new amalgam, or at least a new jla/avengers. tim and jubilee need to meet again

phyrlord said:
The difference is that Batman alone is more popular than 90% of what marvel has to offer.

Last year I tried a few of the top offerings from both... I just couldn't get into Hawkeye or Daredevil, now Swamp thing and Batman were great.
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batman alone is more popular than all of dc combined.i dont get the point of that statement

DonasaurusRex said:
I thought there was supposed to be more JLA / Avengers stuff and of course...the great white whale of crossovers, New Mutants + Teen Titans, which at this point could be Young Justice/Teen Titans + New Mutants/Young Avengers. But the greatest unfinished love story in comics is Robin + Jubilee. Oh well would be cool to see Nightwing and Jubes in a book one last time.
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you know whats up
 
Busaiku said:
As a brand, not the comic series alone.
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Maybe but the brand is what counts, the print comics barely matter in the big picture. Even if Batman can go toe to toe with Spider-Man in comic book sales, in merchandise Spider-Man sells three times as much as Batman and that's where the real money is made.
 
Memento Mori said:
I've just looked over the last two months to double check and the only books which are outselling Batman are #1s, events or Star Wars.

July 2015
1 Secret Wars
2 Star Wars Lando
3 Civil War
4 Star Wars
5 Batman

June 2015

1 Secret Wars
2 Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows
3 Star Wars 6
4 Justice League of America
5 Batman
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Over the last two months isn't a large enough data set but one has to allow for the fact that the marvel line is doing secret wars so...that has to be somewhat expected.
 
Joe Quesada is the reason things soured between Marvel and DC. Before him they did quite a bit together, but once he got in charge of Marvel he did much to get Marvel on the right path again. However he also took some shots at DC and really pissed them off. It's been frosty every since.
 
Savitar said:
Joe Quesada is the reason things soured between Marvel and DC. Before him they did quite a bit together, but once he got in charge of Marvel he did much to get Marvel on the right path again. However he also took some shots at DC and really pissed them off. It's been frosty every since.
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id like to see some of that hehe.
 
DonasaurusRex said:
id like to see some of that hehe.
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When the first Spider-Man came out:

Mr. Quesada is convinced that some good old-fashioned gloves-off rivalry will be good for business. “I liked it when the two companies hated each other,” he said. “It made it better for the fans. You know, if you like DC, then you hated Marvel. If you like Marvel, then you hated DC.”

“What the fuck is DC anyway?” Mr. Quesada said, stoking the fires. “They’d be better off calling it AOL Comics. At least people know what AOL is. I mean, they have Batman and Superman, and they don’t know what to do with them. That’s like being a porn star with the biggest dick and you can’t get it up. What the fuck?” (Paul Levitz, DC’s president and publisher, declined to comment for this story through a spokesperson.)
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The Nu 52 relaunch:

But Joe Quesada, chief creative officer of Marvel Entertainment, scoffed when asked if “Avengers vs. X-Men” could be viewed as a response to the New 52 or any other DC initiative, for that matter. The Marvel exec said he’d been hearing those half-baked theories but that’s all they are if you look into the history of the planned showdown series.

“Yeah, of course — that’s what people want to think,” Quesada said. “But let’s be clear: The DC relaunch is a response to everything Marvel’s been doing, and not the other way around. You don’t set fire to your entire house for no good reason. And by the way, I tip my hat to them. They did something daring and it worked for them. They boosted sales of some of their books. But ‘Avengers vs. X-Men’ is something that’s been on our docket for publishing for several years now.”
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Pluto said:
Maybe but the brand is what counts, the print comics barely matter in the big picture. Even if Batman can go toe to toe with Spider-Man in comic book sales, in merchandise Spider-Man sells three times as much as Batman and that's where the real money is made.
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Except this thread is about comics and not brand.
 
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