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[balladofwindfishes]

"Exprosion" would be Japanese, not Chinese.

TF2 doesn't care xD

 

[demosthenes]

"Fucking China...what is with them and ripping off everything? Is it a cultural thing?" ->

"They have no creativity so they just look at the world and make their own versions of it. They've been doing it for decades."

I didn't make the first comment. Don't know what you're implying there.
edit: Ah, I quoted it. Well this is my rephrasing of what I should have said:

A lot of chinese businesses take advantage of the lackluster IP laws in their country and copy what they see in the outside world. They do this b/c it's easier than starting from scratch. They have been in fact doing this for decades. China is not a developing economy anymore but a developed one and should get their IP laws in order. The reason this gets so much attention is most likely b/c China isn't a developing nation anymore.

 

[DanielJr82]

That has to be fake. Right?

They even bootleg ideas.

 

[speculawyer]

Fucking China...what is with them and ripping off everything? Is it a cultural thing?

Yeah, I gotta say this is just ridiculous.

It was one thing when China was really poor country. But now we owe them trillions and they are making sophisticated computer games . . . . STOP WITH THE BLATANT RIP-OFFS ALREADY!

The rest of the world needs to collectively lean on China and get them to enforce IP laws.

 

[speculawyer]

A lot of chinese businesses take advantage of the lackluster IP laws in their country and copy what they see in the outside world. They do this b/c it's easier than starting from scratch. They have been in fact doing this for decades. China is not a developing economy anymore but a developed one and should get their IP laws in order. The reason this gets so much attention is most likely b/c China isn't a developing nation anymore.

They have the IP laws now. It is more a matter of enforcing them.

It will cost you a lot of money to get some operation closed down . . . and then it will just re-open under a new name.

 

[DeathIsTheEnd]

The rest of the world needs to collectively lean on China and get them to enforce IP laws.

Has that worked with anything else?

 

[Orayn]

So the map is a slightly modified version of one from Battlefield Heroes, and a good portion of the sound effects are actually stolen from TF2? Wow. I thought these games at least had the decency to clone stuff, rather than just taking it.

 

[TheOGB]

The geniuses in the TF2 community are already working on a "Final Combat" pack which ports these models to TF2 xD

The only good thing to come of this?

Other than a vanilla-TF2 alternative for individuals who are not fans of hats?

 

[Proelite]

Chinese people. How do they work.

 

[Orayn]

Other than a vanilla-TF2 alternative for individuals who are not fans of hats?

Hardly. A lot of these games may look similar, but the mechanics are very, very different. That other TF2 "clone," HAVE Online/Microvolts actually plays a lot like a 3rd person Unreal Tournament game, despite the trailer aping TF2 for all it was worth.

 

[SpaceDrake]

A whole hell of a lot of the issues China currently has with plagarism and a lack of creativity in certain media has to do with the Cultural Revolution and creativity literally being crushed out of an entire generation of Chinese citizens, but that's probably a little too heavy a topic for this kind of thread.

 

[Ceebs]

I for one hope Valve adds all this knockoff stuff to the actual game. Call it the bootleg update or something.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I'm seriously bothered at how cosmetic items can "hamper" someone's gameplay.

 

[webrunner]

I'm seriously bothered at how cosmetic items can "hamper" someone's gameplay.

Look, it's a hamper full of "cosmetic items":

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I'm seriously bothered at how cosmetic items can "hamper" someone's gameplay.

I stopped playing TF2 when they did the first class revamp (the Medic?) and started adding in alternative unlockable weapons.

I'll just stick to TFC, where I can at least expect a level playing field.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Awesome. I kind of love seeing these knock offs, it's like stepping into an alternate reality where it's more or less the same as my regular reality but... shittier.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

The TF2 community is ridiculing it and are doing their best to try and port the models to TF2

 

[Azure Dream]

That being said, I am pretty sure the TF2 announcer was added for that Youtube video, because poking around on the official website for this, the version they have on there doesn't have her,

Except when I first watched the video yesterday, it was on the official site, and it absolutely did have the TF2 announcer.

 

[(._.)]

If they can make it like Vanilla TF2 I'll play it.

They threw too many variables into mix in the current iteration of TF2 and it completely turned me off to the game.

you might as well just play TF:C then

It's a much better game than TF2 vanilla and probably this

 

[JaskoX1]

What the hell

 

[flipswitch]

All it needs is the Gameloft logo and it's set.

 

[Uriah]

They even copied the general style of the weapon kill icons.

 

[Bossniak]

Wasn't their a under aged anime girls TF2 ripoff?

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

They have the IP laws now. It is more a matter of enforcing them.

It will cost you a lot of money to get some operation closed down . . . and then it will just re-open under a new name.

Yup.

They have IP laws. Government doesn't enforce them.

 

[Anasui Kishibe]

ahahahahha, this is some funny shit

 

[PKrockin]

I just saw a documentary on CNBC last night about counterfeiting. Fun fact: 90% of counterfeited goods seized by US Customs originate in China.

It's funny seeing people trying to defend them though.

 

[Cartman86]

Yes, it is a cultural thing. Every morning, I wake up and try to decide on something to rip off before hopping off the bed.

That's totally what he was saying!

 

[markot]

So...... why are they firemen >_>?

 

[TheOGB]

Wasn't their a under aged anime girls TF2 ripoff?

That's what I thought this was at first

 

[DarthWoo]

I just saw a documentary on CNBC last night about counterfeiting. Fun fact: 90% of counterfeited goods seized by US Customs originate in China.

It's funny seeing people trying to defend them though.

And how many of our imported goods come from China overall?

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

I just saw a documentary on CNBC last night about counterfeiting. Fun fact: 90% of counterfeited goods seized by US Customs originate in China.

It's funny seeing people trying to defend them though.

The one about New Balance? How they couldn't get the bootleg shoe plant closed down without a shitload of of red tape and BS? Didn't they just re-open another slightly different rip-off months later? China is crazy.

 

[Yeef]

Went to try it out again the other day and noticed it's a 10 gig client, is it really bloated to fuck with all that hat bollocks?

No. There are tons of cosmetic items, to be sure, but they don't really account for all that space. There have been many bugfixes, new maps, new weapons, and new features (a replay editor and a coaching system are the newest additions). At launch the game had 6 maps built into the client, now it has 50.

Look, it's a hamper full of "cosmetic items":

Haha. You caught me off guard.

I stopped playing TF2 when they did the first class revamp (the Medic?) and started adding in alternative unlockable weapons.

I'll just stick to TFC, where I can at least expect a level playing field.

There are four or five weapons that are imbalanced, but the vast majority of them are pretty balanced with their vanilla counterparts. Have you at least read up on how the game has changed since the medic update? During the first classes updates the only way to get the new weapons was to hit the achievement milestones. You can still get them that way (and most other classes have much easier achievements than the medic ones), but you also get 6~12 random weapons each week just by playing. You can also trade and craft weapons using weapons you don't want. If you're still too impatient for that you can also buy weapons from the in-game store with real money (most people don't bother). It should never take more than a week to get any particular weapon. Hell, most people will give you weapons for free if they have an extra one.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

This looks better than the steaming pile of horse manure that is Team Fortress 2.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Hahah why does it not surprise me that Juniors are saying that.

Anyway, TF2 being "big" pretty much already came prior to hats. Besides, peopel clamoring for Vanilla TF2 pretty much forgot how unbalanced that was.

 

[PKrockin]

And how many of our imported goods come from China overall?

Around 15%.

Hold on, that sounds wrong. Here, do the math yourself, I'm too lazy. It's nowhere near half anyway.

 

[XeroSauce]

Is it just me or does this game look like it's played in 3rd person? If so, that's reason enough for me to give it a try.

There's a gameplay trailer and it's first person (they gave the soldier a jiggleboned RL and a Fire Axe!)

 

[bananabread]

Hahah why does it not surprise me that Juniors are saying that.

Anyway, TF2 being "big" pretty much already came prior to hats. Besides, peopel clamoring for Vanilla TF2 pretty much forgot how unbalanced that was.

If by Vanilla then you mean at launch (when soldiers only took 60% damage from their own rockets and pipes could still impact on players on the first bounce) then I'd be forced to agree with you.

TF2 just after the medic/goldrush update remains one of the most tightly balanced games ever though. Everything after that is downhill.

 

[Boss Doggie]

If by Vanilla then you mean at launch (when soldiers only took 60% damage from their own rockets and pipes could still impact on players on the first bounce) then I'd be forced to agree with you.

TF2 just after the medic/goldrush update remains one of the most tightly balanced games ever though. Everything after that is downhill.

You mean post Engineer. Since after medic still has weird shit like Demomen.

 

[XeroSauce]

You mean post Engineer. Since after medic still has weird shit like Demomen.

Scout Update? Wrangler?

RAZORBACK?!

 

[CrunchyFrog]

Will probably be better than TF2 without weapon drops, hats, and all the associated bullshit.

lol came in to post exactly this

 

[bobbytkc]

I must admit, that actually looked awesome

 

[DarthWoo]

Around 15%.

Hold on, that sounds wrong. Here, do the math yourself, I'm too lazy. It's nowhere near half anyway.

Be that as it may, that still makes you feel justified as labeling all Chinese as counterfeiters? (And by the way, monetary value isn't necessarily the best indicator of volume of good, considering that a huge amount of relatively cheap goods would presumably be from China, including textiles and low-value items.)

 

[Blizz]

Because they are an innovation-less country. Everything they do is a rip off but they turn around and claim we copied / hacked them. They all follow a cookie cutter example and hardly detour from it, and if they do they get harassed.

 

[BGBW]

So...... why are they firemen >_>?

'Cos they are fighting fire with fire.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Scout Update? Wrangler?

RAZORBACK?!

Wait, you're seriously saying those are broken stuff? XD

 

[BlazeHedgehog]

Except when I first watched the video yesterday, it was on the official site, and it absolutely did have the TF2 announcer.

Ahaha, wow. Well, so much for the benefit of the doubt!

 

[DogWelder]

Those soldiers suck ass. They didn't even rocket jump once. Also, weapon switch is broken, look how fast he pulls out that axe. That's as fast as the Degreaser weapon switch.

 

[Azure Dream]

Wait, you're seriously saying those are broken stuff? XD

Wait, you're seriously saying the Scout Update wasn't broken? They spent months afterward changing the weapons over and over to try to balance them.

Although I did love the Sandman before they nerfed it to hell.

 

[TouchMyBox]

I love everything which is happening here.

 

[PKrockin]

Be that as it may, that still makes you feel justified as labeling all Chinese as counterfeiters? (And by the way, monetary value isn't necessarily the best indicator of volume of good, considering that a huge amount of relatively cheap goods would presumably be from China, including textiles and low-value items.)

Where did you get the idea that I labeled all Chinese as counterfeiters? If I said that America has an obesity problem, would you call me out for labeling all Americans obese too?