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What's up with all the FFXV hate?
- Thread starter Owari
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Yup, game feels like hot garbage. All I could think of while seeing the demo boss fight where the guy kept getting smashed by the giant fist was that the two second input delay was probably messing his dodge rolls up.
Sithlord77
Banned
As a massive Final Fantasy fan since the SNES days and even enjoying FFXIII games, even I have my doubts to the overall quality of this title.
I just don't think it'll be anything like one of the best games of this gen or the best FF game that Square seem to think it is.
It looks like it's gone through development hell and it shows especially in the recent demos and showings at E3.
I am looking forward to finally playing it but nowhere near as much as I felt with past FF games. In some ways I'm looking forward more to the FFXII remaster and World of FF. The last ten years have literally taken the steam out of it for me. A lot of games have surpassed it already from the looks of it (from a gameplay perspective) look at what Witcher has done for open world single player RPG's for example.
Trouble with the way they've showed this game is they've made it out to be this amazing open world game but a lot of games have come and gone that have been doing this type of thing better years ago. What they are showing now is nothing special. It's just taken so long to come out it's become "yet another open world game".
I expect negative criticism from the camera, framerate drops, nonsensical story, and actually not a lot to do in the game seeing as it's open world once reviews hit.
We'll see but I expect mostly 7's and some 8's from reviews which is a shame but it probably deserves it and certainly nothing like what Square wants i'd imagine. But it's completely their own fault for not listening to fans and losing track of what makes a FF game.
I just don't think it'll be anything like one of the best games of this gen or the best FF game that Square seem to think it is.
It looks like it's gone through development hell and it shows especially in the recent demos and showings at E3.
I am looking forward to finally playing it but nowhere near as much as I felt with past FF games. In some ways I'm looking forward more to the FFXII remaster and World of FF. The last ten years have literally taken the steam out of it for me. A lot of games have surpassed it already from the looks of it (from a gameplay perspective) look at what Witcher has done for open world single player RPG's for example.
Trouble with the way they've showed this game is they've made it out to be this amazing open world game but a lot of games have come and gone that have been doing this type of thing better years ago. What they are showing now is nothing special. It's just taken so long to come out it's become "yet another open world game".
I expect negative criticism from the camera, framerate drops, nonsensical story, and actually not a lot to do in the game seeing as it's open world once reviews hit.
We'll see but I expect mostly 7's and some 8's from reviews which is a shame but it probably deserves it and certainly nothing like what Square wants i'd imagine. But it's completely their own fault for not listening to fans and losing track of what makes a FF game.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Check out how much better this fan edit of the E3 trailer is compared to what we got. All they needed was some Yoko goodness.
https://twitter.com/FranxVersus/status/742741103422656513?s=09
https://twitter.com/FranxVersus/status/742741103422656513?s=09
This.
Haha holy shit that trailer is oozing hype with that kind of music. God the marketing better get their shit together for the next three months. They are literally holding the game back.
UberTag
Member
I'm not at all convinced of that. 13 was a graphical marvel when it came out and I have no issues with its gameplay, either.
You know what, for once I really don't get it. I've enjoyed the demos so far, as well as the trailers and demonstrations sans the Xbox conference one from earlier this week. I don't find the framerate or image quality to be particularly bad, and I've been primarily a PC gamer since Half-Life 2's launch, with a steam account to prove it. I really don't get the suspicion and negativity surrounding this game, and if that makes me the minority for once then...cool. I think it looks fun, and what I've played so far was not only fun but even brought a smile to my face.
I'm noticing a stark contrast between what I read about FFXV on GAF/reddit and what I read about it on my twitter feed. I guess the game's doing a poor job demonstrating competence to the more enthusiast forum crowd. Everyone I personally know who likes RPGs is nothing but hype for FFXV, but at the same time it's probably safe to say that none of them are as discerning as the typical user you'd meet on here.
I'm noticing a stark contrast between what I read about FFXV on GAF/reddit and what I read about it on my twitter feed. I guess the game's doing a poor job demonstrating competence to the more enthusiast forum crowd. Everyone I personally know who likes RPGs is nothing but hype for FFXV, but at the same time it's probably safe to say that none of them are as discerning as the typical user you'd meet on here.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
they showed us wayyy too much before release. So many wonderful surprises are now wasted.
After a bad E3 showing we are just jaded now.
After a bad E3 showing we are just jaded now.
OmegaDL50
Member
So what is it about FFXV that makes it not an FF game?
Holy god I just discovered they just redesigned another character Gladios dad and its disgusting.
Well for one we never got the name of that character in the 2013 trailer. Many actually assume it would be Noctis's uncle cause of the Hamlet motifs.
Secondly there's nothing wrong with that design except for the fact that you've grown attached to the Versus/Nomura designs.
chozen
Member
Looks exactly how I would image Gladios dad. Red eyes just like him and long hair.
You see this guy at Regis' side in the 2013 and 2014 trailer. This is Regis' right hand man and is confirmed in the movie to be basically the same role, but now he is buzzcut and looks just ugh wth
The leaker even stated that the image I posted of the old design is gone.
You listed XIII twice.
But yes, I'm aware. Nothing in my post said otherwise. Nomura's mallcore j-pop aesthetic certainly has its fans, but I'm not one of them. I enjoy VII and X in spite of Nomura's designs, not because of them. Frankly, Cloud and Sephiroth looked cooler when I was 13. Whereas Locke and Terra still look appealing.
Sithlord77
Banned
They've added in all this stuff in the game that no one asked for. Road trip story that looks boring, making it a driving simulator in some of its sections with annoying party members, open world seems empty, controls are laggy and sluggish just for the sake of it being "more realistic". Combat system is something more akin to Devil May Cry and it doesn't seem anywhere near as good either.
Yabberwocky
Member
Damn. I really loved the original design, and was so curious to see how the character was plot relevant. I can't say the replacement design does much for me, and does seem to continue the FFXV trend of sons looking nothing like their fathers. I'm now waiting for the plot twist reveal of both Noctis and Gladio being adopted.
Now he looks even more like Noctics' evil uncle lol.
I don't have hate for it, other than their demo this E3, and the VR stuff looked garbage. Part of that demo sucking was the person playing was awful, but the fight itself was just another example of how often fighting large bosses can be boring to actually do.
It's hard for me to get too excited for the game, because each time I see it they show some new weird thing that alters my impression of what the game is even going to be. Intriguing is what I give it more than excitement, and I'm probably going to wait on the inevitable PC version.
It's hard for me to get too excited for the game, because each time I see it they show some new weird thing that alters my impression of what the game is even going to be. Intriguing is what I give it more than excitement, and I'm probably going to wait on the inevitable PC version.
Ugh damn Phone. Meant XII.
And you did say that when you claimed Nomura dominated the series since VII. When half of the content is not his then he has not dominated it at all.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They changed too much from FF Versus to carry all that hype however FFXV is still certainly looking amazing.
Graphics - phenomenal
OST - GOAT
Story/Characters - still captivating
The only iffy thing in this game is the battle system, which despite having 2 demos, has still not won we over.
Graphics - phenomenal
OST - GOAT
Story/Characters - still captivating
The only iffy thing in this game is the battle system, which despite having 2 demos, has still not won we over.
But again, we don't if it was him or not.
chozen
Member
Im starting to think so.
Gonna compile the spoilers together and show how much proof is in it with images text and links to Tabata himself confirming many of the rumors.
Whoever this leaker is everything is becoming more true especially as of this redesign of Gladios dad.
im still excited for the game, if people want to hate on it, then let them. It means literally nothing until the game actually comes out
People have this weird notion that they need to join a bandwagon of hype to enjoy the game, and thus they freak out if the game doesnt have that hype. I remember when Brink was the īnternets darling before it released. literally none of this means anything until we get to play it.
People have this weird notion that they need to join a bandwagon of hype to enjoy the game, and thus they freak out if the game doesnt have that hype. I remember when Brink was the īnternets darling before it released. literally none of this means anything until we get to play it.
This...
Well, i love it and it's my most wanted game this year, but i kinda understand why so many people are turn off by this game.
First of all, FFXIII-Trilogy was terrible, second, the way FFXV was demonstrated, it kinda pissed people of. I still can't understand why the hell did they put out that platinum demo? Did they really think, people are gonna be hyped after that? Then the E3 presentation was just awful, GC last year was awful. The combat system isn't that good, and now we have wait mode, they are just trying to please everyone, and i'm not sure that will work.
Personally, i still think this game is gona be awesome, and i've been waiting 10 years to play a good ff game... ff12 was released in 2006, the last really good ff game.
First of all, FFXIII-Trilogy was terrible, second, the way FFXV was demonstrated, it kinda pissed people of. I still can't understand why the hell did they put out that platinum demo? Did they really think, people are gonna be hyped after that? Then the E3 presentation was just awful, GC last year was awful. The combat system isn't that good, and now we have wait mode, they are just trying to please everyone, and i'm not sure that will work.
Personally, i still think this game is gona be awesome, and i've been waiting 10 years to play a good ff game... ff12 was released in 2006, the last really good ff game.
OmegaDL50
Member
Every game in the series has things added to it that a previous game didn't have that no one asks for.
There isn't a list of arbitrary check marks that need to filled that quantifies what constitutes an FF game considering how each game in the series outside of some notable naming conventions and monster designs, usually has a different world, characters, and setting every time.
thekiddfran
Member
The demo was shit.
I can't wait for this game to just come out so Square can finally be done with it and start a new final fantasy
I can't wait for this game to just come out so Square can finally be done with it and start a new final fantasy
You're primarily a PC gamer and you don't see how awful the image quality is? This from the latest batch of PR shots.
PSY・S;207563999 said:You're primarily a PC gamer and you don't see how awful the image quality is? This from the latest batch of PR shots.
To be completely fair, SE have been horrid at their PR shots. Its like reverse Bullshots with them. Its been like that with this game since its reannouncment.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
That demo. The controls are terrible. Bad controls=bad game. Hopefully the final game is much, much better.
OmegaDL50
Member
Hmm...a loud popping sound?
Do you have a 2.5 HDD lying around. If so, do you think you could replace the drive in your PS4 with it.
Hold down the power button on the PS4 and continue to hold it down until you hear a beep, and then another beep 7 seconds later. This will let you get into the Diagnostics Menu for your console.
If you cannot do this this will eliminate the possibility that your console is truly dead. and narrow down that the HDD in the console just crashed instead.
The should have scrapped Versus XIII and start with a clean slate for the new console generation.
Maneauleau
Member
I am sure that game will be in the NeoGaf top 10 of E3
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
PSY・S;207563999 said:You're primarily a PC gamer and you don't see how awful the image quality is? This from the latest batch of PR shots.
You're right about the IQ being a dissapoitnment, but judge that area in motion.
https://youtu.be/QXBXsBCthC4
Some games don't screenshot so well and this is one of them.
PSY・S;207563999 said:
Correct. Maybe I'm just not sitting close enough, and I'll readily concede that there must be problems with it considering what a common criticism it's been on here, but I haven't felt my enjoyment hampered in the slightest by the game's image quality and don't personally see what all the fuss is about.
Don't have a 2.5HDD laying around.
Can't access diagnostics. I sometimes get the system to do the start beep, but then it immediately shuts off. other times I can't even get that start beep.
artsi
Member
Yeah, I always look at screenshots and think "that looks bad", then go play Episode Duscae or Platinum Demo and think it's all fine. And I usually play on PC with 980ti so it's not like I'm not used to good IQ.
Huh. People complained about Cloud being too skinny but I don't think I've seen the same kind of complaints about FF7r's overall look myself. Which I've assumed was because it's more visually consistent with it's deliberately deformed character designs(similar to what the Arkham games did).
Agreed.
I'll enjoy it for what it is but the series is in desperate need of a clean slate.
Except the iq's been a mess in person ever since duscae and it's only gotten worse.
i already thought it was bad before the screens were released.
PSY・S;207219827 said:
and it still looked bad in the hq upload on gamersyde.
NoctisCaelum
Member
Have you guys seen this ps4 version of the titan demo from e3? She played so much better than the SE rep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaCmM3KTPjk
So awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaCmM3KTPjk
So awesome!
jetsetnickradio
Member
Uhh... I just watched that video and it's not proving your point at all. It's a blurry, jagged mess.
<insert witty fanboy remark of PS4 playing better>
I only played the platinum demo and the game looks really good in motion, sure it suffers from ailising issues alot. But the day to night transitions looked sublime.
I think I am going to enjoy the game, but I hope to play it on PC.
They wasted an entire generation on XIII and its sequels last gen. The recent demo was extremely awkward and technically unconvincing. And while I love the concept and artdirection, I have zero trust that there will be a plot somewhat decent at this point. This is what Square sowed by treating their franchise like this. If it is a good game, I will celebrate it loudly, but I am not hyping myself for it. I do, however, hope for the best.
Also, I absolutely can't handle the chibi stuff in WoFF, so that one is not for me, unfortunately.
Also, I absolutely can't handle the chibi stuff in WoFF, so that one is not for me, unfortunately.