orthodoxy1095
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I think that we only ever see them in their city-boy clothes is what kills the believability factor.
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What's up with all the FFXV hate?
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Exactly. We could say the same thing about other mainline Final Fantasy games. You have a car, a boat, a whatever, why ride a chocobo?
Yeah, that's true. I've seen videos where they are wearing slightly different clothes, so I think there is some level of visual customization. I do think that they will mostly always be fancy clothes, though. It would be really nice though if you could dress them up however you want at a certain point in the game.
It will be interesting to see how this game is received. Even on launch Final Fantasy 13 had a lot of people criticizing it. However, the Final Fantasy name was influential enough to guard it from too much criticism critically. I don't know if the name still has that kind of power. I could see FFXV being a much better game, with a few problems, and receiving far lower scores.
Hopefully it is just unquestionably awesome and everyone loves it.
Hopefully it is just unquestionably awesome and everyone loves it.
OmegaDL50
Member
Everything. Each and everyone of these games is different in their own way despite having some shared common staples from title to title.
Identify what is different.
lol nice try with the tiny, blurry ass photo.
The difference is that the cast of characters are all dressed similarly because they are a part of the same royalty. It makes total sense within the game, even if they are dressed unusually.
Rising_Hei
Member
Play and anticipate games for what they are, not for what you'd want them to be.
I think that's the problem of many people here, and the main issue "Final Fantasy" has.
Bitching bitching and bitching instead of accepting games for what they are; we haven't played it, stop being biased with irrational thinking that happens because of overthinking, take a big and deep breath, relax, wait until the game releases... don't make assumptions or daydream about how you'd like the game to be.
Enjoy it for what it is when it releases. If it ends up being an 8/10 game? oh well... maybe next time. It ends up being an excelent game but you'd like it to be somewhat different? go play another franchise and/or wait for the next installment.
FFXIII faced the same problem, before it was released people already decided that they hated the game and most couldn't enjoy it for what it was.
I think that's the problem of many people here, and the main issue "Final Fantasy" has.
Bitching bitching and bitching instead of accepting games for what they are; we haven't played it, stop being biased with irrational thinking that happens because of overthinking, take a big and deep breath, relax, wait until the game releases... don't make assumptions or daydream about how you'd like the game to be.
Enjoy it for what it is when it releases. If it ends up being an 8/10 game? oh well... maybe next time. It ends up being an excelent game but you'd like it to be somewhat different? go play another franchise and/or wait for the next installment.
FFXIII faced the same problem, before it was released people already decided that they hated the game and most couldn't enjoy it for what it was.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
They are also incredibly bland looking, and lack any sense of variety.
I am still super bitter about no character switching.
Given how simple the control scheme is and how much resources they wasted on non essential shit like movie,anime and fucking VR, this only tells me that Tabata didnot have his priorities right.
The variety in character switching could've saved the combat.Its even more essential than the airship tbh which will probably be an awkward gimmick when it comes to core gameplay.
I will always count this ommission against him.Its a major sin.
Given how simple the control scheme is and how much resources they wasted on non essential shit like movie,anime and fucking VR, this only tells me that Tabata didnot have his priorities right.
The variety in character switching could've saved the combat.Its even more essential than the airship tbh which will probably be an awkward gimmick when it comes to core gameplay.
I will always count this ommission against him.Its a major sin.
That might be true, but it is in context to the story and setting of the game. Which is why cherry picking this in comparison to the other games makes no sense.
It's also nice to have a change of pace. Sometimes the Final Fantasy games' character designs are all over the place...my biggest gripe is with Final Fantasy VII, even though I love that game. It's such a weird cast.
So the context is fine, but it wouldn't be hard to justify changing their clothing during the story. In fact, it may make more sense. The characters don't look that way because the story demands it, they look that way because the creators wanted them to.
Dangansona
Member
I thought I read somewhere that other costumes were in the game, but at the very least I found proof that there are DLC costumes so you guys can rest easy tonight.
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/final-fantasy-xv-director-answers-16-fan-questions-e3-2016
It does suck that there's a lack of character switching...however, it's not just about budget, it's about time. Square Enix can easily pay another team to develop something entirely different, while there are only a set number of people that can work on the battle system. And because of this, it would prolong the development of the game by a lot. That is my feeling anyway.
Also, to put things into perspective, The Last Story had the ability to play as other characters throughout the game, but it always felt a little bit lopsided. The battle system is designed around Noctis' abilities, the same as how Last Story's system was designed around its main character and giving commands to your teammates. It's a shame, but they had to sacrifice some options for the sake of being able to finish the game in time.
OmegaDL50
Member
The all black garb of the cast. There IS a plot / lore reason. Folks may not like it, but it is what it is.
Each game in the series has it's own plot specific nuances. People from Lucis wearing black is just a FFXV specific nuance.
https://forum.finalfantasyxv.com/discussion/496
Each game in the series has it's own plot specific nuances. People from Lucis wearing black is just a FFXV specific nuance.
https://forum.finalfantasyxv.com/discussion/496
Nah I think it's fine. Noctis is literally the OP character we've seen because he can use all the weapons and it makes sense as part of the game.
Yeah, that's kind of my point. It's not like they just did it superficially. It has significance in the story/setting.
There will be at least one change in the story, it just getting different clothes in game is hard due to Nomura signing that Roen contract.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Never had a problem with their outfits or how they looked BUT one thing I think the team should've added in was maybe one or two more out fits you know just to give the road trip feeling more weight. Like how in the desert area we saw noct with his jacket off well maybe when they get to a colder area they put on warmer clothes.
There is a plot reason, sure, but I sincerely doubt it will be so ironclad that they quite simply couldn't have had them wearing different clothing for the majority of the game. I sincerely doubt the aesthetics of the game are determined based on the story and plot...
We will see, I suppose.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
'Course you don't. Square Enix can do no wrong!
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Thread turned out how'd you expect it to
You could literally argue that about any game ever made.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Pretty much. It's at the point where your either interested or not. 3 months away I personally can't wait.『Inaba Resident』;207735824 said:
How come chocobos don't fit XV's world? we are talking about a world that has Behemoth and a snake with a mask as a face as a normal wildlife in it
I like you Dark Castle, but you are nitpicking here
People in this life can be seen wearing modern cloths and riding camels, horses and elephants either for fun, hobby or just tourism
nothing is unbelievable about that.
I like you Dark Castle, but you are nitpicking here
People in this life can be seen wearing modern cloths and riding camels, horses and elephants either for fun, hobby or just tourism
nothing is unbelievable about that.
Yeah this would be cool. Hopefully there will be something like this, so at least you can change some of the clothing. Long sleeve, short sleeve, etc.
You apparently have the option to have a jacket or with out Jacket Noctis, I think I say it as an option during one of Tabata playthoughs at E3.
Identify what is different.
Each game has a different cast of characters & setting?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
No jacket noct play through coming right up
Yes. Absolutely. That is why no game should be let off the hook for having bland looking characters.
Now, that doesn't mean that you have to agree they look bland. You can think they totally look awesome. I can't argue against your subjective opinions. I am just saying that they don't look that way explicitly because of the story, they look that way because the creators thought they looked cool.
It was a choice. A choice that some people feel makes the cast of characters look very boring.
Because there is fantasy in the name Final Fantasy.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
And FFxv's fantasy seems to be based on reality.
Sure, but it has importance to the story and setting. Many of the Final Fantasy games in the past have characters that look the way they do just because...but in Final Fantasy XV, their clothing choice is actually directly influenced by something specific to the place they are from.
OmegaDL50
Member
Speak for yourself
The demo yes. The near finished game, not anyone yet, except for in-house Square-Enix testers.
We're almost the end of June. So that gives them almost all of July and August to wrap things up with polishing, meaning the game goes Gold the beginning of September were discs are pressed, documentation and adverts are printed for store signage, manufacturing, distribution and shipping to retail.
We are almost there, but not quite. Soon enough though.
The Last One
Member
Yes, we have sci-fi fantasy, steampunk, medieval fantasy and etc in FF. Now we have a fantasy based in the real world.
No you're right. This game is gonna be terrible cause they're riding chocobos while wearing modern clothing.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I don't think it's cherry picking considering that all of these are FF casts. And each of them are colorful, filled with variety and personalities. Everything we've seen from the FFXV crew is incredibly one note and a bit soulless.
FFVII has 3 women, a black man, a wolf like creature and a vampire like man as playable characters. All incredibly colorful and unique. FFXV has a k-pop band. I know, my avater is a k-pop idol.
This incredible party of 4 black clad rich boys...isn't doing much for me. It's incredibly static and soulless. I'm still hoping one of them gets replaced by the end, by Lunafreya to add some spice, life and variety.
If SE wants me to keep that preorder...show me something. Some me variety. Tell me Lunafreya will get her DLC. Something. Show me a Red XIII. Show me some spice. Tell me this is more than a k-pop band adventure in emo land.
I mean, maybe that will be strong enough to justify the sameyness of the character designs. It feels like a weak excuse for me. However, I can't say for certain until I play the game.
That being said, when I was younger I would have loved how they look. I used to use a gameshark to make all the Final Fantasy 8 characters were their SEED uniforms. I get why some people would dig them.
Still, I think the cast's look has been divisive from the onset for a reason...
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
What's emo about..well any of them.
LowParry
Member
I hate when people throw that term around.
lol at 8/10 being a disappointing score
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
It's a dude and his black clads friends...going around collecting the weapons of "dead kings' to rescue a damsel in distress in white. It just needs a Black Veiled Brides boss theme at this point IMO.
They're literally the opposite of emo.