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What's up with Atlus this gen?

tokkun said:
It's not like they are supporting the Wii either, though. I think that what is frustrating for some people is that their games have actually regressed in terms of graphical fidelity compared to what they were putting out on the PS2.

Yes, two TC and TT is no support...

Wait
 
grandjedi6 said:
Okay, lets have it your way. SMT/Persona/RPG games developed in the first 5 years of/for each gen:

Last Gen (2000-2005):
  • SMT: Nocturne
  • Digital Devil Saga 1
  • Digital Devil Saga 2

This Gen (2005-2010):
  • Etrian Odyssey
  • Etrian Odyssey II
  • Etrian Odyssey III
  • Devil Survivor
  • SMT: Strange Journey
  • Persona PSP
  • Persona 3 Portable
  • Whatever else they end up developing between now and November
This Gen would also include Persona 3, Persona 4, SMT: Devil Summoner: KR 1, SMT: DS: KR 2...
 
ZephyrFate said:
This Gen would also include Persona 3, Persona 4, SMT: Devil Summoner: KR 1, SMT: DS: KR 2...

Those aren't on current generation hardware, though. The list was comparing games they released in the comparable time frames on the current gen hardware.
 
KuwabaraTheMan said:
Those aren't on current generation hardware, though. The list was comparing games they released in the comparable time frames on the current gen hardware.

So? They are still games being made and using resources with the time period of this generation.
 
vicissitudes said:
...where are the new SMT/Persona/other RPG games?

Gee, I dunno! I wonder how often Atlus puts out a new Megaten title!

02/20/03 -- SMT3
01/29/04 -- SMT3:M
07/15/04 -- DDS1
01/27/05 -- DDS2
03/02/06 -- Raidou 1
07/13/06 -- P3
04/19/07 -- P3:F
07/10/08 -- P4
10/23/08 -- Raidou 2
01/15/09 -- Devil Survivor
04/29/09 -- P:PSP
10/08/09 -- SMT:SJ
11/09/09 -- P3:P

Wow! It's almost as if Atlus' total output of Megaten titles has stayed fairly steady for six years, possibly even slightly increasing in the last year or so!

cosmicblizzard said:
Where are all these Persona 5 rumors coming from? I thought the rumor was a new SMT game on PS3.

If by "rumor" you mean "random unsourced shit I remember people posting on GAF back in two-thousand-fucking-five" then yes.
 
In terms as them being know as the "Quirky and Hardcore American Publisher" well the types of games they usually published for the PS2 are now made on handhelds. Development costs as well as the Japanese gaming market have drove Atlus USA to portable.

In terms of them being known as the "Talented Japanese Developer" well that's simple. The Japanese gaming market is in ruins now and the only bet that is even somewhat safe is with the DS. And yeah that's what they've been working with.
 
charlequin said:
If by "rumor" you mean "random unsourced shit I remember people posting on GAF back in two-thousand-fucking-five" then yes.

Actually, I just mean the listing on Amazon. Credible or not, it makes sense that rumors would start up. P5 rumors on the other hand don't seem to have any reason for existing.
 
HK-47 said:
So? They are still games being made and using resources with the time period of this generation.

I'm not disputing that, I was simply explaining why the list had left them off. The original poster was complaining about Atlus not outputing many RPGs this generation, and grandjedi responded by posting a list which showed that their output of RPGs in the time period this generation (on current generation hardware) is greater than their output in the same time period last generation.

cosmicblizzard said:
Actually, I just mean the listing on Amazon. Credible or not, it makes sense that rumors would start up. P5 rumors on the other hand don't seem to have any reason for existing.

Hashino mentioned awhile back that the Persona team had split in two after Persona 4, with one half making P3P and the other half making another game that was nearing completion, and that they would merge back together this year for a 'big project'. So, that project is very likely Persona 5.
 
cosmicblizzard said:
Actually, I just mean the listing on Amazon.

Which, based on its awesomely convincing label of "Shin Megami Tensei (working title)" is almost certainly just the latest outcropping of self-same random unsourced shit I remember people posting on GAF back in two-thousand-fucking-five, so.
 
I'd really just like a new Atlus console game. If its on the Wii so be it. If its on the HD consoles good for me. If they make more games on the DS then I'm just out of luck.
 
Didn't Atlus say they are making Persona 5?

Regardless, you got Demon's Souls, Trauma Team and 3D Dot Game Heroes coming thanks to them.

PS: EVERYONE KNOWS two of those games were made by From Software. But without Atlus, they wouldn't see Western shores so shut it xD
 
KuwabaraTheMan said:
Hashino mentioned awhile back that the Persona team had split in two after Persona 4, with one half making P3P and the other half making another game that was nearing completion, and that they would merge back together this year for a 'big project'. So, that project is very likely Persona 5.

Oh yeah. I completely forgot about that. Guess the rumors do hold some weight after all even if it isn't what they're working on.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
I'd really just like a new Atlus console game. If its on the Wii so be it. If its on the HD consoles good for me. If they make more games on the DS then I'm just out of luck.
Here, may I flashforward our inevitable conversation? :)

grandjedi6 said:
Trauma Team
Rahxephon91 said:
No I meant RPGs
grandjedi6 said:
::insert more counterexamples here::
Rahxephon91 said:
No I meant...
grandjedi6 said:
Rahxephon91 said:
grandjedi6 said:
something something
Rahxephon91 said:
Persona 5 on 360/PS3

Bonus points if you're also hoping for a pointless Digital Devil Saga sequel ;)
 
This tag is real annoying. I do not have bad taste.

No, I bought a DS Lite the day they came out and then traded it for PSP which I then just gave to a friend. I never find myself in the mood to play portable games. I think I've only completed like 5 portable games in my entire life. Two of those being Pokemon games. When I'm on the go I rather be on my iphone or ipod and really when I'm on the go I'm to busy to sit and actually enjoy the game anyway. When I'm at home I rather just play on my consoles.

So yeah if a new game comes for the DS it will suck for me because even if I bought it I would never actually play it. Just not a portable gamer.

And a DDS type game would be cool. There doesn't need to be a story sequel but the idea of a more FF/party of characters SMT game would be nice.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
This tag is real annoying. I do not have bad taste.

No, I bought a DS Lite the day they came out and then traded it for PSP which I then just gave to a friend. I never find myself in the mood to play portable games. I think I've only completed like 5 portable games in my entire life. Two of those being Pokemon games. When I'm on the go I rather be on my iphone or ipod and really when I'm on the go I'm to busy to sit and actually enjoy the game anyway. When I'm at home I rather just play on my consoles.

So yeah if a new game comes for the DS it will suck for me because even if I bought it I would never actually play it. Just not a portable gamer.

And a DDS type game would be cool. There doesn't need to be a story sequel but the idea of a more FF/party of characters SMT game would be nice.

Rahxephon91
I have bad taste.
(Today, 03:43 AM)

There we go
 
ATLUS should make another:

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Just remake the 1st one for Wii or something. The music and crazy tracks were awesome.
 
Outside of Sony ditching the backwards compatibility for the PS2 from the new PS3's I thought releasing Persona 4 as a PS2 game was pretty smart. Much like I believe a TV show or movie that has no way to be put on bluray should just be left on DVD since both a dvd player and bluray player can play it, before Sony axed the BC from the newer systems I thought games that weren't above the PS2's level should just stay on the PS2 since it would work on both.

Now that Sony has axed BC and stores are devoting less and less space to the PS2 I figure Atlus's hand has been forced and they'll have to develop on the PS3 and 360 so we should get something soon. As a gamer, I was just happy getting something new that was better than it's predecessor(persona 4), having it look better than it did would have been icing on the cake, so to speak, but hardly detracted from the experience. Especially considering it's Atlus we're talking about. Now if 5 minute monster summons are your deal with glorious cinematics and Square was still doing FF games on the PS2, you might be disappointed but Atlus rarely are a power house so to speak. Whether Persona 4 had been released on the PS 4 or not it'd probably have been the exact same game with the exact same graphics.

My question though, is where the hell is Steambot Chronicles 2?
 
I don't see an issue.

They made
a great choice by publishing
Demon's Souls, and that was one of the best games evarrrrrrrrrrr.
 
I AM JOHN! said:
Well that's IREM, but that's a good goddamn question. They announced Steambot 2 over two years ago!
More daggers in my heart. Let's just talk about Shenmue III while we're at it.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
I'd really just like a new Atlus console game. If its on the Wii so be it. If its on the HD consoles good for me. If they make more games on the DS then I'm just out of luck.

Thank you, that's pretty much where I am. I guess Persona 3/4 being so late in the PS2's cycle just makes Atlus seem really LTTP this gen. This thread is making me consider getting a DS but I'm pretty much a console-only guy. It's just a little surprising to not only have nothing on this gen's consoles (minus trauma center), but not even any announcements. At this rate we'd be lucky to have something on the PS3/360/Wii by 2011.

But thanks for the responses. I can see they've been busy making games, just not the ones I want :p
 
tokkun said:
Honestly, though, I don't think they have to spend a ridiculous amount of money to make an HD game. I would be perfectly happy with something that had the same sort of in-game assets as Persona 4, but was just rendered at HD resolutions. See shot from PCSX2:
Wouldn't surprise me either, I mean look at the approach NIS had with Disgaea 3 and Cross Edge. These tittles look like high ress Playstation 2 games. And as for both Persona and Disgaea, looks aren't what most peple associate with the games. It's all about the gameplay mechanics, stories, characters and the writing. If they make a new, groundbreaking graphics engine, we would be thrill. If not...well, we stould still be thrilled and excited over the fact that it's the next iteration of the series.
 
You know it makes sense to only want to play Atlus games on HD consoles. Being that their games are always so cutting edge and all. The Megaten franchise is an ideal example of this.
 
Flying_Phoenix said:
You know it makes sense to only want to play Atlus games on HD consoles. Being that their games are always so cutting edge and all. The Megaten franchise is an ideal example of this.
PS2 era graphics need the power of blu-ray to truly come alive.

But it's more due to the fact that people want Persona 5, and it being released on the DS or the PSP would gimp it in either the exploration aspect (ala P3P) or voice acting, which is crucial to the experience of dating multiple anime girls at once.
 
Dresden said:
PS2 era graphics need the power of blu-ray to truly come alive.

But it's more due to the fact that people want Persona 5, and it being released on the DS or the PSP would gimp it in either the exploration aspect (ala P3P) or voice acting, which is crucial to the experience of dating multiple anime girls at once.

I have a real beef with Persona for allowing that...
 
Rahxephon91 said:
I'd really just like a new Atlus console game. If its on the Wii so be it. If its on the HD consoles good for me. If they make more games on the DS then I'm just out of luck.

erm they just released devil summoner less than a year ago
 
tetrisgrammaton said:
erm they just released devil summoner less than a year ago
Ok? Don't see how that conflicts with anything. I'm fully aware and I did not play it. Then again if it was on a console I also doubt I would play it as I'm not into SRPGS, except for VC.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Ok? I'm fully aware and I did not play it. Then again if it was on a console I also doubt I would play it as I'm not into SRPGS.

Not Survivor. Devil Summoner is an action RPG.
 
Has it been less than a year since Devil Summoner 2 came out? I still have the Raiho plush, I thought it'd be worth something down the line...
 
Dresden said:
Has it been less than a year since Devil Summoner 2 came out? I still have the Raiho plush, I thought it'd be worth something down the line...
Pretty sure it's been less than one calendar year for the US. I still need to beat it, I'm right near the end and then a lot of crap happened in real life and I got side tracked.
 
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