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What's with all the Smash Bros. coverage lately?
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MisterHero
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Explaining Geno's popularity is like explaining the popularity of Kingdom Hearts. ;p
And while its successors have vastly improved upon the formula, Super Mario RPG is a milestone in Mario games.
also while Lucario somewhat plays like Mewtwo, I really think he screwed over Blaziken as the latest included playable Pokemon
boooo Lucario BOOOOOOOO
And while its successors have vastly improved upon the formula, Super Mario RPG is a milestone in Mario games.
also while Lucario somewhat plays like Mewtwo, I really think he screwed over Blaziken as the latest included playable Pokemon
boooo Lucario BOOOOOOOO
Hot Coldman
Banned
Lucario got his own movie! Besides, Blaziken had already been replaced by Infernape. I'd rather have had someone like Deoxys, at least then they could have had stance changes to mix things up.
Sir Ilpalazzo
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Ezalc said:
Jigglypuff is a lot more relevant than Geno just because she's been in every SSB game (you can't say Jigglypuff is irrelevant while championing Geno, that makes no sense). And Geno definitely wasn't the most wanted character for Brawl, that was just a vocal minority.
I'm all for Sigurd, though, but I don't think it would ever happen. If he did make it in, I think they should somehow incorporate his horse - that'd make him more unique than his lance.
At the same time that I am probably one of the only people on GAF who gets hyped thinking just about rosters for this series, I just don't give a fuck about character wishes outside of getting Mike Jones from StarTropics playable (and also as far away from playing like Ness or the awesome Brawl Lucas as possible). He has a ton of potential, and could be the answer to Pit, showing up as long forgotten "Nintenbro of the West", but as long as StarTropics suffers from this oddly ambivalent "non-existance/non-acknowledgement" from either Nintendo or the fans, he has one of the lowest possible chances of getting in.
I mean shit, you know it's bad when people know who Takamaru, Sukapon, Lala & Lolo, or Lip are without scratching their head but you say Mike Jones and get a non-ironic "who?" :lol
On a tangent note, I can't be the only one thinking that some franchises would be better served with an "old love/new love" setup. Have like one or two big series faces that have been there from the start or set precedents and one or two of the most well met guys that can change about every now and again going forward in the franchise. Example: Marth & Shiida then Ike & Micahah (or Roy/Elinwood/Lyn).
And I hate Smash topics so much for making me think of rosters and wondering when/why Ninendo hasn't/will jump on certain characters for playable. :lol
I mean shit, you know it's bad when people know who Takamaru, Sukapon, Lala & Lolo, or Lip are without scratching their head but you say Mike Jones and get a non-ironic "who?" :lol
On a tangent note, I can't be the only one thinking that some franchises would be better served with an "old love/new love" setup. Have like one or two big series faces that have been there from the start or set precedents and one or two of the most well met guys that can change about every now and again going forward in the franchise. Example: Marth & Shiida then Ike & Micahah (or Roy/Elinwood/Lyn).
And I hate Smash topics so much for making me think of rosters and wondering when/why Ninendo hasn't/will jump on certain characters for playable. :lol
Hot Coldman
Banned
Nintendo definitely need to be commended for their choices overall though, they make more sensible choices than any developer out there when forming its rosters. They would never have left Mega Man out of MvC3, for example.
Green Scar said:
Megaman not being in MvC3 in some shape or form is like Mario getting left out while Luigi gets center stage imo. As much as I love Marvel, this was just a massive "wat" when I first heard about it, especially with some of the developer's reasoning behind it. :lol
Debatable.HK-47 said:
Big One said:
Roy has no point in coming back besides as an alt costume for Ike. In FE he was a pretty terrible lord and has nothing really special about him. Some of his moveset could just be used for Sigurd.
As for Jigglypuff the argument of one of the originals is crap, imo. The nobody else plays like her is eh since they could just probably give most of her moveset to some other new character. Meowth is the perfect add on for a Pokemon rep, he may not be popular but the fact that he'd fit pretty well in the "cast of villains" along with mewtwo is something that you can't really argue. Plus he actually still has a role in the anime.
MisterHero
Super Member
I'm sorry while he's alright I do not prefer flaming monkey butt over Blaziken, whose awesomeness transcends mere Pokemon generations.Green Scar said:
HK-47's got a point, I think I meant to say Mewtwo (and his playstyle) merely got replaced by Lucario. Funny though, Lucario's moveset from Double Team to his emphasis on kicks and his 'dark aura'-emitting wrists remind me a lot of Blaziken.
I imagine Blaziken being faster and more powerful than Lucario, and just a way cooler Pokemon in general
My idea of a roster in SSB4 with 45 characters and each with alternate costumes would be...
Returning Characters
1.Mario - Tanooki suit Mario and Dr.Mario
2.Link - Zora suit and Magic armour from TP
3.Kirby - Beam kirby and another ability hat kirby, however what makes these ones special is the b button would be replaced with said cap ability.
4.Pikachu - Balloon pikachu and Raichu look
5.Samus - The classic suit and Dark samus
6.Fox - assault look and classic 64 look
7.Yoshi - Pirate Yoshi (from Mario party 2) and Boshi
8.Donkey kong - Funky kong wear and Chunky kong wear
9.Luigi - Frog suit Luigi and Cloud suit Luigi
10.Ness - Pajama Ness and Robot Ness
11.Captain falcon - Helmetless Captain and uh...Black shadow suit?
12.Jigglypuff - Igglybuff and wigglytuff look
13.Bowser - Dry bowser and Dark Bowser ( From M&L:BIS)
14.Ice climbers - Parka-less and King dedede suit
15.Peach - Daisy alt. and sports alt.
16.Zelda/sheik - a design based off the Wind waker one with sheik in tetra garbs and hmmm robbed Zelda and Ninja sheik
17.Marth - I really don't know much about the Fire emblem lore but maybe on with a Roy alt.?
18.Falco - Assault suit and classic 64 design.
19.Mr. Game and Watch - Permament diving suit head and Flagman alt.
20.Ganondrof - a suit based off pig ganon in Four swords and classic OoT look
21.Mewtwo - hmmm this ones a tough...maybe a Dark design and a deoxy esque look?
22.Wario - overalls and D.I.Y suit.
23.Pit - classic look and maybe something from the 3DS game?
24.Metaknight - Maskless Metaknight and Galacta knight (from Super star ultra)
25.Diddy kong - Dixie alt. and Kiddie kong alt.
26.Lucas - hmmm I don't really know what to put for him!
27.Ike - idk I don't play the FE games
28.King dedede - Masked dedede (from ultra) and Parka Dedede
29.Olimar - Louie and the President alt.
30.R.O.B - this one is a real hard to think of too, maybe a streamlined look?
Heres the new characters and why they should be included
New characters
31.Ridely - get rid of Zamus and replace her with him, he's high in fan demand and It would be nice to control another Metroid character other that Samus or the Hunters for once.
32.Issac - Golden sun needs some representation and is the most wanted of the series that or use someone from the new DS game
33.Samurai Goroh - F-zero needs more representation and is high in demand for
34.New Pokemon trainer - one that uses a 5th gen, 4th gen and 3rd gen pokemon, since my roster is already bias with 1st gen pokemon.
35.Little mac - the underdog would fit perfectly in Smash and is one of the more famous NES characters that should become playable
36.Krystal - More female representation is needed, considering Brawl only got no new females (Zamus wasn't technically new since it was the same character) plus is high in demand.
37.Saki - Sin and Punishment representation would be great since we finally got a sequel and would do the series some justice.
38.Waluigi - a new Mario representive while a odd choice is high in demand and who wouldnt want to do a brawl with Mario, Luigi, Wario and Waluigi as the selected characters? He's also a better choice as opposed to Geno whose to obsecure and Toad who is too unimaginitive to use.
39.Lyn - a classic Fire Emblem character high in demand, I'd like to see her playable too even if I don't play the FE series.
40.King k. rool - the villain from DKC is demanded too, he'd be interesting to work with using his attacks from his various games like the crown throw and his blowgun.
41.Mii - they need to be playable in the next game, who wouldnt want to be able to fight Link or Mario?
42.Animal crossing boy - Animal crossing could use a fighter beyond a stage and some items, the boy would use various items like the axe, the fishing rod and the shovel to attack.
43.Masked man - a.k.a Claus I thought it would be a interesting choice considering he was in demand for a time during Sakurais dojo thing where you could request things.
44.Rhythm Heaven DJ - this games WTF character, the Yellow DJ dude from some of the Rhythm games, he could use attacks based off his series like the Ralley racket and karate mans cup kick.
45.Shigeru Miyamoto - what? the mans a legend and he damn well deserves to be in a Smash game and use everything from Nintendo history at disposal, yes even the Nintendo love tester and hafuda cards.
as for the subject of 3rd parties, I don't really think Snake or Sonic would make a return considering they were guest, however it would be nice if Megaman and Ryu made a appearence in the Next game.
Returning Characters
1.Mario - Tanooki suit Mario and Dr.Mario
2.Link - Zora suit and Magic armour from TP
3.Kirby - Beam kirby and another ability hat kirby, however what makes these ones special is the b button would be replaced with said cap ability.
4.Pikachu - Balloon pikachu and Raichu look
5.Samus - The classic suit and Dark samus
6.Fox - assault look and classic 64 look
7.Yoshi - Pirate Yoshi (from Mario party 2) and Boshi
8.Donkey kong - Funky kong wear and Chunky kong wear
9.Luigi - Frog suit Luigi and Cloud suit Luigi
10.Ness - Pajama Ness and Robot Ness
11.Captain falcon - Helmetless Captain and uh...Black shadow suit?
12.Jigglypuff - Igglybuff and wigglytuff look
13.Bowser - Dry bowser and Dark Bowser ( From M&L:BIS)
14.Ice climbers - Parka-less and King dedede suit
15.Peach - Daisy alt. and sports alt.
16.Zelda/sheik - a design based off the Wind waker one with sheik in tetra garbs and hmmm robbed Zelda and Ninja sheik
17.Marth - I really don't know much about the Fire emblem lore but maybe on with a Roy alt.?
18.Falco - Assault suit and classic 64 design.
19.Mr. Game and Watch - Permament diving suit head and Flagman alt.
20.Ganondrof - a suit based off pig ganon in Four swords and classic OoT look
21.Mewtwo - hmmm this ones a tough...maybe a Dark design and a deoxy esque look?
22.Wario - overalls and D.I.Y suit.
23.Pit - classic look and maybe something from the 3DS game?
24.Metaknight - Maskless Metaknight and Galacta knight (from Super star ultra)
25.Diddy kong - Dixie alt. and Kiddie kong alt.
26.Lucas - hmmm I don't really know what to put for him!
27.Ike - idk I don't play the FE games
28.King dedede - Masked dedede (from ultra) and Parka Dedede
29.Olimar - Louie and the President alt.
30.R.O.B - this one is a real hard to think of too, maybe a streamlined look?
Heres the new characters and why they should be included
New characters
31.Ridely - get rid of Zamus and replace her with him, he's high in fan demand and It would be nice to control another Metroid character other that Samus or the Hunters for once.
32.Issac - Golden sun needs some representation and is the most wanted of the series that or use someone from the new DS game
33.Samurai Goroh - F-zero needs more representation and is high in demand for
34.New Pokemon trainer - one that uses a 5th gen, 4th gen and 3rd gen pokemon, since my roster is already bias with 1st gen pokemon.
35.Little mac - the underdog would fit perfectly in Smash and is one of the more famous NES characters that should become playable
36.Krystal - More female representation is needed, considering Brawl only got no new females (Zamus wasn't technically new since it was the same character) plus is high in demand.
37.Saki - Sin and Punishment representation would be great since we finally got a sequel and would do the series some justice.
38.Waluigi - a new Mario representive while a odd choice is high in demand and who wouldnt want to do a brawl with Mario, Luigi, Wario and Waluigi as the selected characters? He's also a better choice as opposed to Geno whose to obsecure and Toad who is too unimaginitive to use.
39.Lyn - a classic Fire Emblem character high in demand, I'd like to see her playable too even if I don't play the FE series.
40.King k. rool - the villain from DKC is demanded too, he'd be interesting to work with using his attacks from his various games like the crown throw and his blowgun.
41.Mii - they need to be playable in the next game, who wouldnt want to be able to fight Link or Mario?
42.Animal crossing boy - Animal crossing could use a fighter beyond a stage and some items, the boy would use various items like the axe, the fishing rod and the shovel to attack.
43.Masked man - a.k.a Claus I thought it would be a interesting choice considering he was in demand for a time during Sakurais dojo thing where you could request things.
44.Rhythm Heaven DJ - this games WTF character, the Yellow DJ dude from some of the Rhythm games, he could use attacks based off his series like the Ralley racket and karate mans cup kick.
45.Shigeru Miyamoto - what? the mans a legend and he damn well deserves to be in a Smash game and use everything from Nintendo history at disposal, yes even the Nintendo love tester and hafuda cards.
as for the subject of 3rd parties, I don't really think Snake or Sonic would make a return considering they were guest, however it would be nice if Megaman and Ryu made a appearence in the Next game.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Lucario is at least awesome to play as. Mewtwo was just lame, no fun at all. And anyone with a counter attack is brilliant in my book!
NeonZ
Member
Ezalc said:
You're ignoring Smash Bros itself though. She's relevant to Smash Bros because she was one of the first 12, was in Melee and returned yet again in Brawl.
Why are you so focused on the anime? The only element of the Pokemon anime that has appeared in Smash Bros so far is the voice acting for some cuter Pokemon (but not the more feral ones, unlike in the anime) and the design of a Misty trophy in SSBM. They went with a Pokemon Trainer from FireRed rather than Ash for a reason.
Well, Takamaru was in Samurai Warriors 3, after all, with an entire game mode for his adventure. I wonder what are his chances for the next game? I guess it'll depend on what kind of line up they're going for.
Nocturnowl
Member
Damn Right!MisterHero said:
I really don't enjoy Lucario's style of play but I loved Mewtwo for some reason, it felt really rewarding once you got past the initial awkwardness.
And clearly Mega Man was left out of Marvel Vs Capcom 3 to make his upcoming reveal as a playable character in the next Smash Bros all the more glorious.
Green Scar said:
Fun fact: counter is the reason why I started maining Marth in Melee and continuing to do so through Brawl & beyond. It's become one of my favorite metagames to throw out a counter rushing into a big fray just to take advantage of all the hits being thrown in there.
Edit: ^^ Lucas. It was tough setting it up, but when his up & down smashes connected, you lit your opponents the fuck up and it's blissful. It's even more so when you manage to get all three sparks to hit them.
Seven Force
Banned
The next SSB needs Saki and Issac. After that, any other additions would just be icing on the case.
MisterHero
Super Member
Halo was almost on DS, of course Halo would be a cool legitimate character
Hot Coldman
Banned
AzureJericho said:
This is why Lucas is my favourite, next to Wolf, Lucario and Sonic.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
NeonZ said:
Before Melee (yes, I know that was ten years ago), someone asked Sakurai about Takamaru, and Sakurai said that he'd be pretty likely if he got a new game.
I think he'd have a lot of potential. I'd like to see him, but I'd also like to play his game one day.
Green Scar said:
Lucas went from someone I rarely thought about to my second favorite cast member because of this and his awesome air game.
Also, count me in the camp that thinks Smash should never eject entrants, but embrace them and make them more unique while thinking hard about what new entrants can add to the gameplay.
Not even close, Sigurd is a horse character. How does Roy's moveset transition to Sigurd whatsoever? Regardless Roy - despite being a mediocre lord character - holds a pretty decent amount of importance for his setting. He's a pretty solid poster boy for the FE6/FE7 setting aside from Lyndis, and was a key important character at the time of release.Ezalc said:
Hot Coldman
Banned
AzureJericho said:
Yeah, once I figured how to a) use PK Thunder and b) use it effectively, my opinion changed about Lucas. Then I played MOTHER 3, and I liked him even more :lol It helps that, yeah, like his smashes (and his long-range grab), he's so improved over Ness in many different areas, it's great. I think Ness could stand to be altered to be more like Wolf to Lucas's Fox, rather than a Falco- Ness was the OG, but Lucas is plain better, so I want Ness to be upgraded to that level, instead of being the inferior hand-me-down.
The only thing I don't like about Lucas is he's somewhat slow, and I normally try to use faster characters (hence why I like Sonic a lot). PK Thunder helps with traversal, mind.
Nocturnowl
Member
Lucas is a fun character to use, I gravitate towards heavy characters and Lucas has this odd mix of moves, some of which that pack a tremendous punch right up there with all the big guys.
Getting a timer and then hitting your slow foe with his fully charged down smash is a joy to behold.
Getting a timer and then hitting your slow foe with his fully charged down smash is a joy to behold.
NeonZ said:
I guess it's just my dislike for Jigglypuff then, but whatever. I'm focused on it because it's the reason Jigglypuff was even in Smash in the first place, and I'd say the reason Mewtwo was added as well. The Pokemon series doesn't really have a "villain" besides Team Rocket. Usually the series goes through standard procedure for adding characters: Protagonist, Rival/romance interest, antagonist, extras. Mewtwo was basically a villain of the anime in the first season anyway, plus he's the only actually significant Psychic pokemon, imo. He plays a menacing role in the anime (btw his alt could be that armor Giovanni made him wear and a Deoxys alt,) and in the first movie. He was the "big bad pokemon." Meowth on the other hand is basically the rival to Pikachu. That's why I focus on the anime. The games are represented through the Pokemon Trainer character, the manga gets no recognition unless you want to lump it with the games themselves. The anime is still a really big part and that's why I focus on it. Also whoever says Blaziken is awesome is basically just because of the anime made it look that way, and while I agree that I like blaziken Mewtwo is infinitely better and more significant even when it comes to the Pokemon games.
Sir Ilpalazzo said:
I never said Geno was relevant in comparison to Jigglypuff. But for their respective series he's the only other good option along with Bowser junior with a paint brush. Also Geno was definitely the biggest wanted character at least in Japan and a good deal of western fans wanted him as well.
Big One said:
I thought about his horse honestly, but I don't think it'd work too well without being too awkward. Wario and his motorcycle are an example, turning around with it is kind of a hassle. I think he should get his horse as his final smash and then go crazy. The only reason I said give some of Roy's moves to Sigurd is because his normal moves could be used when Sigurd uses Tyrfingl, but then I realized that his moves work much better with Ike. Speaking of which Ike should have a ranged projectile move since he can do ranged attacks with Ragnell in the games. I suggested Lyn or Hector as a representative for the GBA games since they're much more unique than Roy and create better moveset potentials. Roy can be an alt costume I see no point in bringing him back considering he was only advertisement the first time around.
I've thought about Takamaru's inclusion and honestly I would definitely want him as a PC I think in the end he's better just being an assist trophy. But hey if we can get him as PC with a good moveset without having to sacrifice somebody better for the spot then go ahead.
As for the WTF? character SSB4 it has to be Sukapon, I swear to god if it's anybody else I'll rage until the end of time. The fact that he wasn't even an assist trophy in brawl is outrageous. He already basically has a moveset and coming up with more moves would be easy if they just use moves from other characters in his game, plus coming up with a moveset for a robot made of limbs isn't actually that hard at all. The DJ guy from Rhythm Heaven should be an assist trophy at most, imo.
I also think that Miis should only be an assist character by having whatever miis are in your system 'Parade' read stampeded from one side of the screen to the other. The idea of them being playable is just meh. I guess I could see the appeal for Waluigi but meh I don't really care about him honestly.
Finally for third parties, Sonic, Snake, Megaman, and maybe some other one but not Ryu. Ryu is the epitome of boring characters, I don't want another crossover game infested with hadoukens and crap. We get Megaman leave Ryu the fuck away from this game please. You want ryu go play the thousands of other fighting games with him in it, we don't need his boring ass moveset in yet another fighter.
Ezalc said:
Ryu's one of my favorite fighting game characters, but I agree with this. What I love about Super Smash Bros. is how they're able to create a moveset from characters who have little to no history in fighting games. Putting Ryu in Smash Bros. over someone like Megaman would be a bad move imo.
IchigoSharingan
Member
Kiiji said:
You can't piece 2 and 2 together? He says Melee was made for the hardcore. And in the interview about Brawl, Sakurai and Iwata keep talking about the concept of gimping the series.
Iwata: Also, I think that fundamentally, we shouldnt try and separate the casual gamers from the core gamers.
Both Sakurai and Iwata wanted the game toned down. Read between the lines and analyze how 'hardcore' and 'accessible' spell out Melee and Brawl, respectively. There is zero depth to Brawl's gameplay. It is a freaking flatline.
You know who I want in the next Smash Bros?
An ExciteBot. Just because it would be so bizarre and hilarious.
Think of what its moves could be:
B: PIE FACE
>B: TURBO
^B: YELLOW BAR (this could be pretty awesome; Bot grabs the yellow bar, spins, and you have to release at the right time to get the best recovery)
VB: SUPER SANDWICH (it would do nothing, the Bot would just make a sandwich)
In all seriousness, it could potentially be a pretty interesting character that harnesses the same kind of bizarre that makes Game & Watch so awesome. And beyond the WTF-factor, I imagine a character who's constantly on wheels and has no arms or legs could have a quite unique play style. Or I guess it does have the one robotic arm in its back, so it would still be able to grab enemies and ledges. But that's a bit different.
I also wonder if they'll update another early 8-bit character like Ice Climbers and Pit.
Personally, I think Balloon Fighter could have a lot of potential as a unique character. His whole play style could be based on his balloons. He'd start with 2, but lose one for every 25% or so damage he took. With 2 balloons, he'd have 5 jumps in the air, but be light; with 1 balloon, he'd have 3 jumps in the air and be a bit heavier; and with no balloons, he'd have only the standard 1 air jump, but be medium weight.
Then his specials would be based around managing his balloons:
B: Tap while on ground to inflate a new balloon
vB: Pop a balloon, causing good damage in the area around you
^B: Untie a balloon, causing it to fly around and drag you with it; you can control the direction it flies like Ness's PK Thunder
Side B, dunno. But I think these three moves alone would make a pretty unique character.
An ExciteBot. Just because it would be so bizarre and hilarious.
Think of what its moves could be:
B: PIE FACE
>B: TURBO
^B: YELLOW BAR (this could be pretty awesome; Bot grabs the yellow bar, spins, and you have to release at the right time to get the best recovery)
VB: SUPER SANDWICH (it would do nothing, the Bot would just make a sandwich)
In all seriousness, it could potentially be a pretty interesting character that harnesses the same kind of bizarre that makes Game & Watch so awesome. And beyond the WTF-factor, I imagine a character who's constantly on wheels and has no arms or legs could have a quite unique play style. Or I guess it does have the one robotic arm in its back, so it would still be able to grab enemies and ledges. But that's a bit different.
I also wonder if they'll update another early 8-bit character like Ice Climbers and Pit.
Personally, I think Balloon Fighter could have a lot of potential as a unique character. His whole play style could be based on his balloons. He'd start with 2, but lose one for every 25% or so damage he took. With 2 balloons, he'd have 5 jumps in the air, but be light; with 1 balloon, he'd have 3 jumps in the air and be a bit heavier; and with no balloons, he'd have only the standard 1 air jump, but be medium weight.
Then his specials would be based around managing his balloons:
B: Tap while on ground to inflate a new balloon
vB: Pop a balloon, causing good damage in the area around you
^B: Untie a balloon, causing it to fly around and drag you with it; you can control the direction it flies like Ness's PK Thunder
Side B, dunno. But I think these three moves alone would make a pretty unique character.
IchigoSharingan said:
Meta Knight and Snake are part of the reason for the flatline though. Fox was good, but he wasnt nearly the force those two are in Brawl. I also think Sakurai would have to try really hard to make a game with zero depth.
Kevin - Balloon Fighter was originally considered for Melee. It was between him, Pit and the Ice Climbers for a retro 8 bit spot.
Professor Beef
Banned
I don't really like Lucas as a competitor, but they really went all out with the Mother 3 references in just one character. I love all the little touches he has.
IchigoSharingan said:
That's my fucking problem. For some reason Sakurai thought "Appealing to casuals=removing depth". Did anyone pray for the Melee engine to slow down? Casuals loved Melee, the same way casuals love MvC2. There's MSS vs. MSS top level play in MvC2 the same way there's Fox/Falco/Jiggs/Sheik/Falcon/Peach/Marth top level play in Melee... but everyone could still have a blast with both games at the low level!
When Sakurai said "Melee was just too hard", it actually makes my blood boil. It's a lie. NO ONE thinks this. Depth =/ difficulty. ugh.
Also, Jiggs isn't going anywhere. She's an OG. Hell, Mewtwo, Pichu, Roy, Young Link and Doc shouldn't have been removed for Brawl. Yes, even Doc (alt costume ffs).
TheLastCandle
Member
Gotta love the rope snake.Professor Beef said:
Hot Coldman
Banned
KevinCow said:
Hey, be nice! IchigoSharingan is being very kind by letting us all know very quickly that they don't have a clue what they are talking about, appreciate that
KevinCow said:
Pretty much this. I loathe the idea that Smash should only cater to a single demographic. It's not like tourney players were breaking into your houses and forcing you to turn off items back in the Melee days, so why can't everyone be happy with a future installment?
Watch Da Birdie
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I'd love a new console Smash, but I am kind of disappointed that there haven't been any big franchises from Nintendo lately to draw characters from...I was sad that Olimar was the only new franchise representative in Brawl and I hoped that would change by the time of the sequel, but I guess that's unlikely.
Anyway, Starfy's now out of Japan, so I can see him in, Barbara the Bat is rather popular apparently in Japan, having a lot of cameos in games, plus she'd bring a non-Princess female smasher which is nice, Sin and Punishment is also making a comeback, and I'm tempted to say that Isa Jo would be a bit more relevant to include than Saki, and then there's Golden Sun's Isaac. I think those four would make interesting "starter" newcomers. Beyond them...I can't think of anyone without digging deep, but I'd love for Takamaru from Nazo no Murasame Jo (he recently cameoed in Samurai Warriors, I believe), Muddy Mole (Sakurai wanted him in Brawl, apparently), and Jill from Drill Dozer. Oh, and since we always get Japan-only characters, why not pay the Western fanbase a favor and give us Tin Star!
As for new characters from existing franchises...to be honest, I can't think of any good ones right off the bat. I can probably see Zoroark from Pokemon being included, which would be cool if they utilize her illusion powers, and I'd love King K. Rool, but beyond that it's digging deep. Shy Guy from the Yoshi series? Samurai Goroh? Eh...to be honest, if they added those eight new guys, I'd be satisfied.
Anyway, Starfy's now out of Japan, so I can see him in, Barbara the Bat is rather popular apparently in Japan, having a lot of cameos in games, plus she'd bring a non-Princess female smasher which is nice, Sin and Punishment is also making a comeback, and I'm tempted to say that Isa Jo would be a bit more relevant to include than Saki, and then there's Golden Sun's Isaac. I think those four would make interesting "starter" newcomers. Beyond them...I can't think of anyone without digging deep, but I'd love for Takamaru from Nazo no Murasame Jo (he recently cameoed in Samurai Warriors, I believe), Muddy Mole (Sakurai wanted him in Brawl, apparently), and Jill from Drill Dozer. Oh, and since we always get Japan-only characters, why not pay the Western fanbase a favor and give us Tin Star!
As for new characters from existing franchises...to be honest, I can't think of any good ones right off the bat. I can probably see Zoroark from Pokemon being included, which would be cool if they utilize her illusion powers, and I'd love King K. Rool, but beyond that it's digging deep. Shy Guy from the Yoshi series? Samurai Goroh? Eh...to be honest, if they added those eight new guys, I'd be satisfied.
Anth0ny said:
For fucks sake is what I say. Pichu, Roy and Doc should get nothing more than being alts. They do absolutely nothing unique, the only one who maybe could have a chance of this is Roy but that's stretching it. Mewtwo should come back but they need to revamp his moveset a bit and make him less floaty. As for Jiggs I already said all I had to say on her, I don't like her, she's not relevant in terms of the Pokemon series. It's not like there are a bunch of pokemon that could take her spot though, so I just suggest switching Lucario with Mewtwo and adding TR Meowth.
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As much as I like the series, I'm going to say "No."Snakeyes said: