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[Karsticles]

Your finger is sufficient for the touch commands.

Do you think it's fair to say that the team understands that fans did not like the motorcycle section of Bayonetta 1? I'd love to be assured that we won't get another scenario like that, because replaying that level for PPs was brutal.

That's the plan..but Name one.

Tragic right?

Blame Sony and Microsoft for not caring about the IP. The real tragedy is that there was one company in the entire world that gave enough of a shit about Bayonetta to save Bayo2, and you're waiting for P* to make a game for another system. There's one company that is looking out for this IP, and some fans have their heads too far up their asses to buy the console so they can play the game they want.

 

[Decado]

WTF? Neogaf has a collective orgasm at the mere mention of "Platinum Games".

Uh...oops. Another mess for the mods to clean-up

 

[Hypron]

I am more interested in finding out how Nintendo can make Wii U appeal to these people. Yes, there are some diehards who will never purchase anything made by Nintendo and vice versa for other platform makers. At the same time, Nintendo needs to fix some of its internal issue too as well as an attempt to ram up its exclusivity library.

Selling it as a secondary console is the approach I want to see from Nintendo.

Unless Nintendo can go back in time and make the console more powerful, they can't.

 

[joe2187]

Do you think it's fair to say that the team understands that fans did not like the motorcycle section of Bayonetta 1? I'd love to be assured that we won't get another scenario like that, because replaying that level for PPs was brutal.

The Motorcycle part wasnt that bad

the section before the last Jeanne fight where you are riding on the missle though makes me want to strangle kittens

 

[GuardianE]

The Motorcycle part wasnt that bad

the section before the last Jeanne fight where you are riding on the missle though makes me want to strangle kittens

I'm still trying to figure out how to fucking uninvert the controls.

Blame Sony and Microsoft for not caring about the IP. The real tragedy is that there was one company in the entire world that gave enough of a shit about Bayonetta to save Bayo2, and you're waiting for P* to make a game for another system. There's one company that is looking out for this IP, and some fans have their heads too far up their asses to buy the console so they can play the game they want.

That's a bit excessive. Not everyone has the disposable income to do that. Buying a game on launch is one thing, but buying an entire system is another entirely.

 

[Karsticles]

The Motorcycle part wasnt that bad

the section before the last Jeanne fight where you are riding on the missle though makes me want to strangle kittens

I thought the missile section was fun, but needed to be shorter. It was fun for the novelty, but then I had to replay it several times for a PP, and it wasn't very interesting. The motorcycle section had a similar problem, except that also didn't seem to involve me very much. It felt like the section was largely on autopilot and just had to come to its natural end.

 

[ohlawd]

Would love it if PG only made games for Nintendo.

Would be worth it just for the tears and whining.

 

[Arc Christelle]

To me thats like digging into a toilet for a lolipop, I'm sure she's a sweet lass, but I'll pass and pray for news on something they're working on that will be on a console I actually want.

How in the hell is it like that? I really don't get most people's relentless hatred towards the Wii U.

 

[Fonz72]

Started playing the first Bayonneta today. Fuuuuuuk, that game is awesome!

 

[Freezie KO]

To me thats like digging into a toilet for a lolipop, I'm sure she's a sweet lass, but I'll pass and pray for news on something they're working on that will be on a console I actually want.

This past gen when 360 and PS3 were the power of Wii U must've been really rough for you.

 

[Arc Christelle]

Would love it if PG only made games for Nintendo.

Would be worth it just for the tears and whining.

Hell yeah, especially with all the free spaces for releases is just money on the table. It'd be a good chance to create a new and even bigger audience for PG.

 

[GuardianE]

How in the hell is it like that? I really don't get most people's relentless hatred towards the Wii U.

Not necessarily defending the position, but if someone doesn't care about first party Nintendo titles or ports, the console is lacking in its current library. Hopefully the upcoming year changes that, and gives more people reasons to pick up a WiiU.

 

[Christberg]

Buying both titles pending reviews.

 

[bobbychalkers]

Bayonetta 2 got some attention this E3 but I still feel like people are turning their noses away from Wonderful 101. I remember seeing a lot of downvotes the second its trailer was put up on Gamespot's youtube page. The game lets you bitch-slap cyber dragons for fucks sake.

 

[Arc Christelle]

Not necessarily defending the position, but if someone doesn't care about first party Nintendo titles or ports, the console is lacking in its current library. Hopefully the upcoming year changes that, and gives more people reasons to pick up a WiiU.

Now that I actually do understand, if you feel hesitant. But some people act like no matter what the console may offer, they will never support it.

 

[deuce985]

If I had a WiiU I would care. I enjoyed the first Bayonetta and Platinum Games can do no wrong in my eyes. As it stands, I couldn't care less about this game at this point. When it decides to make a trip to either PC or PS4, then I'll be excited.

I doubt I'll ever get a WiiU unless someone gives it to me as a gift. That or a truck stocked full of them all of a sudden has their stock spill out in the road without them knowing.

 

[GuardianE]

Bayonetta 2 got some attention this E3 but I still feel like people are turning their noses away from Wonderful 101. I remember seeing a lot of downvotes the second its trailer was put up on Gamespot's youtube page. The game lets you bitch-slap cyber dragons for fucks sake.

The artstyle or character direction just isn't immediately appealing to the masses. It's probably the same reason why people reacted negatively towards WindWaker. I'd be glad to be wrong, but I imagine Wonderful101 will be largely ignored at launch, but cherished years down the line.

 

[Beth Cyra]

If I had a WiiU I would care. I enjoyed the first Bayonetta and Platinum Games can do no wrong in my eyes. As it stands, I couldn't care less about this game at this point. When it decides to make a trip to either PC or PS4, then I'll be excited.

Not going to be happening with Bayo 2 or TW101, so you will be getting excited for something else.

 

[Tyrant Rave]

Started playing the first Bayonneta today. Fuuuuuuk, that game is awesome!

Be sure to play it on Hard and the highest difficulty after. You get more weapons and stuff by doing so.

 

[Q8D3vil]

They'll see my love when i borrow Wiiu and bayo2 from a friend when it comes out

 

[GamerJM]

This is the only major forum where I can find dedicated fan support for Platinum Games

Eh, there's quite a bit on GameFAQs. But yeah, I don't see it much on somewhere like /v/.

 

[Terrell]

Not irrational. Not a single game Nintendo makes is in the style I like. What makes that irrational? I'm not a serious mobile gamer. The last game I bought and played on my DS was Hotel Dusk. I don't like Mario games or Zelda and I prefer much higher quality graphics than the Wii U supports. I guess my opinions differing from your's mean irrational hate huh?

Considering Nintendo makes games in a very wide variety of styles, genres and target demographics, I would say that either my point stands or your taste in games is so narrow as to be non-existant.

That your opinion differs from mine does not make your stance on Nintendo platforms into irrational hate. It's that your opinion is completely ridiculous and lacks merit that makes your stance on Nintendo platforms into irrational hate.

 

[NoirVisage]

Now that I actually do understand, if you feel hesitant. But some people act like no matter what the console may offer, they will never support it.

So This has ALWAYS been about the WiiU to you..wow.. you almost had me there with your false outrage at not supporting P* -__-

This past gen when 360 and PS3 were the power of Wii U must've been really rough for you.

I'm not even sure what you mean, no disrespect, I know Gaf is an international site, so its all good.

 

[fuzzy.dunlop]

Not irrational. Not a single game Nintendo makes is in the style I like. What makes that irrational? I'm not a serious mobile gamer. The last game I bought and played on my DS was Hotel Dusk. I don't like Mario games or Zelda and I prefer much higher quality graphics than the Wii U supports. I guess my opinions differing from your's mean irrational hate huh?

This man is a member of the PC Master Race. He does not prefer gaming on Wii U, Xbox 360 or PS3. Leave him alone. He is elite.

 

[nailbombxx]

The artstyle or character direction just isn't immediately appealing to the masses. It's probably the same reason why people reacted negatively towards WindWaker. I'd be glad to be wrong, but I imagine Wonderful101 will be largely ignored at launch, but cherished years down the line.

Its hard to fathom why many people can't find bright colorful visuals with many details appealing.

 

[NoirVisage]

Considering Nintendo makes games in a very wide variety of styles, genres and target demographics, I would say that either my point stands or your taste in games is so narrow as to be non-existant.

That your opinion differs from mine does not make your stance on Nintendo platforms into irrational hate. It's that your opinion is completely ridiculous and lacks merit that makes your stance on Nintendo platforms into irrational hate.

Now you sound like a zealot dude, not you too

 

[Beth Cyra]

Its hard to fathom why many people can't find bright colorful visuals with many details appealing.

It has nothing to do with bright colors, at least for me.

Take his example, I still think Wind Waker is ugly and the worst art style in the franchise, and I couldn't be more excited for TW101.

 

[nailbombxx]

It has nothing to do with bright colors, at least for me.

Take his example, I still think Wind Waker is ugly and the worst art style in the franchise, and I couldn't be more excited for TW101.

Well, art designs are a big part of it. W101 and Bayonetta 2 both have high quality character and enemy designs.

What is wrong with Wind Waker's art style?

 

[hwalker84]

Considering Nintendo makes games in a very wide variety of styles, genres and target demographics, I would say that either my point stands or your taste in games is so narrow as to be non-existant.

That your opinion differs from mine does not make your stance on Nintendo platforms into irrational hate. It's that your opinion is completely ridiculous and lacks merit that makes your stance on Nintendo platforms into irrational hate.

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_franchises

Advanced Wars is the only one. Metroid fell off the list once they went FPS and Team Ninja. Sorry not everyone likes Nintendo franchises like you do.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Well, art designs are a big part of it. W101 and Bayonetta 2 both have high quality character and enemy designs.

What is wrong with Wind Waker's art style?

Just not a fan. I generally don't like cel shading, I hate big heads on tiny bodies and more then that I hate kids.

Wind Waker was pretty much everything I dislike rolled into one game.

 

[fuzzy.dunlop]

I hate big heads on tiny bodies and more then that I hate kids.

Sorry, just had to take this out of context.

 

[Night_Trekker]

yeah i don't know why platinum is ignored on this forum

Ha!

 

[Terrell]

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_franchises

Advanced Wars is the only one. Metroid fell off the list once they went FPS and Team Ninja. Sorry not everyone likes Nintendo franchises like you do.

Well, to address the point you're making, please feel free to tell us all about the games that you do enjoy and you find appealing, outside of these 2 games you refuse to buy because they're on a Nintendo console. I'm rather interested to know now, you've piqued my curiosity.

And to another point, that's not the full list.

 

[Arc Christelle]

So This has ALWAYS been about the WiiU to you..wow.. you almost had me there with your false outrage at not supporting P* -__-

lmao. Yes, It has ALWAYS been about the Wii U, because Platinum is putting games I want on a console I want. So fuck yeah.


As for outrage, There is no outrage for your decisions. You simply said you won't support them due to the console it's on. I told you, that's your fault. It is, deal with it and miss out, or just buy it.

Tales of Symphonia HD is going to PS3. I don't want a PS3 and I don't care for Playstation products. It's my decision, thus my fault for not choosing to get that platform and support it.

You know.... reality.

 

[Varjet]

Just not a fan. I generally don't like cel shading, I hate big heads on tiny bodies and more then that I hate kids.

I don't like you.

 

[JerryThePredator]

I can't think of ANY major publications which covered these games at all. Saint's Row IV winning Action/Adventure game of the show, when Bayo 2 was there?

Did the entire industry go crazy?

 

[Azure J]

Some--if not many--people here in GAF, and elsewhere I guess, really seem like they prefer to just let Bayonetta 2 crash & burn & not existing at all instead of existing exclusively on a Nintendo platform.

What a sad, sad, people they are.

I can't tell you how many otherwise reasonable and sound mind posters I've seen in other places completely devolve into this kind of thinking because it isn't on their preferred system. It's mind-bogglingly absurd.

 

[NoirVisage]

lmao. Yes, It has ALWAYS been about the Wii U, because Platinum is putting games I want on a console I want. So fuck yeah.


As for outrage, There is no outrage for your decisions. You simply said you won't support them due to the console it's on. I told you, that's your fault. It is, deal with it and miss out, or just buy it.

Tales of Symphonia HD is going to PS3. I don't want a PS3 and I don't care for Playstation products. It's my decision, thus my fault for not choosing to get that platform and support it.

You know.... reality.

You're playing coy, I don't want a wiiU, you were going to get a wiiU even before you knew it existed, our situations are unrelated,

Then you have the pompous nerve to see "fault" in someone NOT willing to spend 300+ on a game, and deeming it a "lack of support" for the developers when all along you're just incensed at the idea that i don't care for a WiiU,

Your distorted idea of reality, is a joke to me.

 

[HardRojo]

I have no idea how a person who's seen ANY media for W101 could confuse it for Pikmin.

Different genre, different pacing, different presentation methods... it's like you see a large group of tiny people and jump to the most wrong conclusion humanly fathomable. It'd be like looking at Arkham Asylum and assuming because it has a hero in a cape that it's exactly like Superman 64.

That's what TW101 looks like to me for now, I'll have an educated opinion once I play the game but as I said, for now it doesn't seem that interesting to me.

 

[blackflag]

I don't care about anything Platinum has done.

Bayonetta is attractive, and that's about it.

I would stab you in your sleep playa.

 

[Beth Cyra]

I don't like you.

The majority of humans I've come in contact with would agree with you on that.

 

[gutter_trash]

my love for Platinum Games ended with their decision to make a Wii U exclusive

 

[Arc Christelle]

You're playing coy, I don't want a wiiU, you were going to get a wiiU even before you knew it existed, our situations are unrelated,

Then you have the pompous nerve to see "fault" in someone NOT willing to spend 300+ on a game, and deeming it a "lack of support" for the developers when all along you're just incensed at the idea that i don't care for a WiiU,

Your distorted idea of reality, is a joke to me.

How poetic and you just made a bunch of assumptions? This is gold. lol

I'm saying it's your fault if you don't get to experience it because you chose not to. Deal with it and stop trying to go over the top to justify it.

Your reasons are your reasons, but in the end it was your choice. Your fault, not Platinum's.

 

[fuzzy.dunlop]

my love for Platinum Games ended with their decision to make a Wii U exclusive

before we get an influx of #$@#$@# angry messages: this poster is joking.

 

[Varjet]

The majority of humans I've come in contact with would agree with you on that.

Oh come on, I wanted to make you my GAF enemy #1 and now you make me feel bad.
...
Excellent work.

 

[Terrell]

my love for Platinum Games ended with their decision to make a Wii U exclusive

If I applied that attitude of disliking companies for releasing software on platforms I don't care for, I'd hate the entirety of the industry by now, Nintendo included.

before we get an influx of #$@#$@# angry messages: this poster is joking.

We've heard equally befuddling things from others in this thread and one of the tenets of a good joke is proper timing, execution and not requiring an explanation. Something that he's seriously lacking if he's being a kidder about it.

 

[SmokeMaxX]

I will never understand the people who will refuse to buy a system even though it has games they want. I mean, I could understand if it were the XBone since it's entirely anti-consumer, but the WiiU?

I will also never understand the people who are more concerned about graphics than actual gameplay. Why not just watch movies 24/7 then?

 

[fuzzy.dunlop]

I will never understand the people who will refuse to buy a system even though it has games they want. I mean, I could understand if it were the XBone since it's entirely anti-consumer, but the WiiU?

I will also never understand the people who are more concerned about graphics than actual gameplay. Why not just watch movies 24/7 then?

There are many reasons. Some are rational, some are irrational. Lack of money and time sound like rational reasons.

 

[Hypron]

I will never understand the people who will refuse to buy a system even though it has games they want. I mean, I could understand if it were the XBone since it's entirely anti-consumer, but the WiiU?

I will also never understand the people who are more concerned about graphics than actual gameplay. Why not just watch movies 24/7 then?

Consoles are expensive you know, and the Wii-U is not the only one that has interesting exclusives, and on top of that it's really underpowered compared to the two others, while the difference in price doesn't reflect that.

 

[iSnakeTk]

Game is on the wrong Platform with the wrong audience , at least that is what I think.

Look at MGR that got alot of discussion here because prople who care about their games are on ps and xbox.