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Which is better, Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter? (2015 edition)

Both series feature my most favoured characters, Ryu and Scorpion but MK always felt somewhat chaotic in regards of the core fighting mechanics and the pace while SF felt more accurate with controlls and pace. SF wins (but just because Tekken3 is not available as a contender)
 
The latest MK is an excellent fighter.

Ultra Street Fighter IV is an exceptional fighter. Best 1VS1 2d fighter.

My current ranking:
- Ultra Street Fighter IV
- Killer Instinct (of course, including Season 2)
- MKX, on par with KOFXIII
ehuw? This list is so....suspect. But if it's what you like homie. -shrugs-
Nah, it was still kind of the same. Capcom players stuck to their own games for the most part. Same with 3D (Tekken, VF, Soul Calibur) and Guilty Gear players. You also had more fanboyism when it came to the Capcom games. You had some group of people who swore that x and/or y Capcom game(s) were trash and broken. Basically they thought that: CvS2 was too slow and boring, and broken or retarded with RCs. MvC2 was too glitchy, broken and random. And the majority of fanboys shitted on 3s for having unbalanced characters and parries.

I think the only difference with the more popular games these days is that you have more reasons to play them. Bigger cash prizes for winning, more competition, "media exposure".

I think the only reason why the older Capcom titles get played is because they are more than often playable and unique enough. I'm guessing with the older MK titles that they were just too broken or dull to be played competitively. UMK3 is the only old MK game that gets still played.
Nah, I'm talking about variety in what was being played and the people who played it.

Fanboyism is hella dominate more now than it was back then. [Not saying it didn't existed. it did, hell back then I swore Capcom could do no wrong, then after the release of SFIV, my love kept sinking.]

But all in all Capcom has been dominating this era solely with two games. Most of their newer audience ain't even interested in anything outside Capcom.


But basically there were a lot more options back then than now. A lot of people didn't even like SFIV or MVC3 but conformed because no one was willing to play anything else. Which is why I kinda find the Melee community impressive. They refuse to let the game die.

Nowadays you gotta run to Fightcade or GGPO for competition in past titles.

As for the 3D audience, while they don't have a massive community they still have somewhat support [somebody gotta play these games.]
 
MK would win this if it were the only fighting game in existence. Thus the argument would be MK is better than nothing, true that. SF is in a different league several light years ahead.
 
MK would win this if it were the only fighting game in existence. Thus the argument would be MK is better than nothing, true that. SF is in a different league several light years ahead.

I'm happy to see this post since first pages reading was giving me a headache. MK the best fighting game?

I'm not even sure I would call any MK fighting game good. But hey opinions (mine will probably give someone else a headache)... also since I don't like MK games since the very beginning I can't say I've played every version of the game. I may have tried one per gen just because I'm curious.
 
Samurai Showdown is regarded differently because it uses highly stylized sprite based art work and in the mind of the Japanese that is completely different from violence depicted with realistic graphics. Furthermore Showdown V came out before the government really started to crack down on depiction of violence in games. Consequently its arcade debut was the same year as the Japanese arcade debut of MK1. That marked the last time Japanese gamers saw an extensive portrayal of blood and gore in arcades. Hell even games like house of the dead had to be altered so the blood was a different color.
What about V Special?
 
Chû Totoro;165226401 said:
I'm happy to see this post since first pages reading was giving me a headache. MK the best fighting game?

I'm not even sure I would call any MK fighting game good. But hey opinions (mine will probably give someone else a headache)... also since I don't like MK games since the very beginning I can't say I've played every version of the game. I may have tried one per gen just because I'm curious.
you should play MKX, it's good.
 
sf hands down. the mk series is quite fun, but always felt janky and awkward to me. i'll play it for a laugh for time to time, but never took it up seriously.

mk does dress up the single player replay factor with side fluff which is cool for people casually dipping their toe into fighters, or who are maybe playing for story I guess?

i think anyone who actually plays fighters competitively at any sort of decent level just wants a good game with a good training mode and isn't bothered about additional single player content though.

in closing, marvel is best.
 
sf hands down. the mk series is quite fun, but always felt janky and awkward to me. i'll play it for a laugh for time to time, but never took it up seriously.

mk does dress up the single player replay factor with side fluff which is cool for people casually dipping their toe into fighters, or who are maybe playing for story I guess?

i think anyone who actually plays fighters competitively at any sort of decent level just wants a good game with a good training mode and isn't bothered about additional single player content though.

in closing, marvel is best.
MKX has a far better training mode than SFIV or Marvel, what are you talking about?
 
you should play MKX, it's good.

Ok I'll try it. But I'm not saying MK is a bad game, it's just that I don't seem to get into it :/

It's like Tekken, I don't like it. I'm more a DOA, Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur... well not Tekken guy :p

In fact I've always been more SF (very complete, with a big learning curve but more accessible than other great 2D fighting games like KoF or FF) and more Soul Calibur (same reason) than anything else.
Marvel vs. Capcom is more for the insta fun

Oh god all the fighting gaming sessions are long gone... I feel old and left behind too since I've never really followed the genre since then :/

I'm just playing a little SSB now because I've missed this game back then and I'm planning to play Ultra SF IV since I've played again SF 3DS and I need to have at least one fighting game in the library of each system I own (local multiplayer purpose).

But yeah, I'll try MK X if there's a demo.
 
did you read my post? i didn't say best training mode = goat fighting game.

To be fair, you really didn't do a very good job of clarifying what you meant in your post. The training mode stuff was literally the only point you highlighted as being something serious players would look for in a fighter... so the two fighters you then mention both having a worse training mode than MK did make for a strange read.
 
MKX has a far better training mode than SFIV or Marvel, what are you talking about?

I haven't been playing mkx as much as I should because I've been busy but I feel the record feature is a hassle in mkx. Unless I missed it, I didn't see a button where I can play and record, I always had to go back to the menu. It is nice I can change variations easily and choose reversals for ai to execute though. Easy recording is pretty convenient because trying something against youself is a really good way to experiment on how to get out and setup things.
 
To be fair, you really didn't do a very good job of clarifying what you meant in your post. The training mode stuff was literally the only point you highlighted as being something serious players would look for in a fighter... so the two fighters you then mention both having a worse training mode than MK did make for a strange read.

fair play. i was making the point at the time that a game that plays well and has a good training mode is all that most competitive fighting game players want. i guess good netcode doesn't hurt nowadays but that's another matter.

in my experience MK can win out more often with casual players who enjoy the additional single player content. i definitely felt like that once upon a time. however, often the extra single player content that games like MK have is never touched by someone who is actually in the scene. in fairness i am unfamiliar with the training mode in the current incarnation of MK, which may have inadvertently caused me to phrase my statement in a way that stirred up a reaction in MK fans (like i'm assuming oneida.) if MK does indeed have a particularly good training mode.

i did read your post; did you read mine? when did i accuse you of saying that?

i'm sorry. you didn't accuse me of saying that at all. in response to your original question then: i didn't say it doesn't.
 
fair play. i was making the point at the time that a game that plays well and has a good training mode is all that most competitive fighting game players want. i guess good netcode doesn't hurt nowadays but that's another matter.

in my experience MK can win out more often with casual players who enjoy the additional single player content. i definitely felt like that once upon a time. however, often the extra single player content that games like MK have is never touched by someone who is actually in the scene. in fairness i am unfamiliar with the training mode in the current incarnation of MK, which may have inadvertently caused me to phrase my statement in a way that stirred up a reaction in MK fans (like i'm assuming oneida.) if MK does indeed have a particularly good training mode.



i'm sorry. you didn't accuse me of saying that at all. in response to your original question then: i didn't say it doesn't.

This highlights the point that I was trying to make about getting an unbiased opinion about a fighting game from an entrenched competitive player. "I saw two seconds of that game and automatically dismissed it." To be fair I respect the candid honesty of this post.

Entrenched Halo fans are the worst people to critique Killzone. When Halo fans congregate in the Halo church and sing praises they dance around the fire and chant death to the enemy. Their perspective is very shortsighted.
 
Entrenched Halo fans are the worst people to critique Killzone. When Halo fans congregate in the Halo church and sing praises they dance around the fire and chant death to the enemy. Their perspective is very shortsighted.

This would be less of an issue if Halo wasn't just so much better than Killzone though.... :P
 
This highlights the point that I was trying to make about getting an unbiased opinion about a fighting game from an entrenched competitive player. "I saw two seconds of that game and automatically dismissed it." To be fair I respect the candid honesty of this post.

appreciated - i will readily admit that i'm one of those guys. i do dig competitive play, learning the engine and going at it head to head with other people. and although i respect fighting games that have a ton of single player content, that stuff isn't of much interest to me personally. so to an extent i am viewing this question with a bias towards competitive fighting game play rather than viewing it as a potential single player experience. single player doesn't even come into it for me, but if prompted i'd probably give it to mk free. it has more fun stages too. however, as far as multiplayer, characters, gameplay, music, art style, and most of all the "feel" are concerned, sf series wins for me.

i'm also not dismissing mk outright because of any bias towards capcom. i've played a bit of soul calibur, blazblue and tekken. i'm terrible at those games but i felt much more free than the mk series. they just felt better. i even picked up smash for the wii u and really enjoyed it, i never thought i'd say that, but i do always give games a chance.

i played up to mk4 single player back in the day, played mk9 and injustice too. mk9 was single player or casually with friends, had single player / training mode time with injustice too, had fun with it. those games still don't feel natural to me though. they have an awkward, jerky/stuttered feel to me. hopefully that makes sense to someone. I don't think they're bad games at all, they're absolutely legit fighting games and I will happily watch high level play. to answer a question like the OP's though, I have to compare them to street fighter, a series where everything just tends to click for me.

marvel 3 is my favourite fg but i appreciate that the game is broken / trash / dead. i just love it. sorry for the long post.
 
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