i HeaR MusiC
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Which is going to be bigger: Destiny 2, Star Wars Battlefront 2 or COD: WW2?
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Obliterator
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I actually think BF2 is going to launch under BF1 but likely sell more long term due to being the better game
Yeah, could be. I'm taking a hard wait and see approach after falling for the hype with the first game and greatly regretting my purchase.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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COD then Destiny (even without PC it would be number 2) then BF
man, i hate a year with so many FPSs i want to buy because they are such time sinkers if you like to kickass
man, i hate a year with so many FPSs i want to buy because they are such time sinkers if you like to kickass
Pegasus Actual
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Destiny 2, no doubt.
Simo
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The first one sold 15 million copies in its lifetime and I think they're estimating RDR2 to sell 15 to 20 million copies this time, which obviously still isn't anywhere near GTAs success nor Call of Duty.
That said, Take Two said the reaction and response to RDR2 even surprised them and Amazon has already sold through their initial allotted preorders for PS4.
LurkingFear
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Way too early to tell.
Have to wait for E3, lots more gameplay reveals. Otherwise, the jury is still out.
Have to wait for E3, lots more gameplay reveals. Otherwise, the jury is still out.
ArkhamFantasy
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I would say Destiny 2 because of the legs, It had a very large community that was playing and paying for years after launch. it doesnt have an annual sequel. Battlefront burned alot of people, COD legs get cut short by the next annual game.
Big Green Anus
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COD WW2 is going to sell the most, but I'm torn between Destiny 2 and Battlefront 2. BF did not retain the amount players compared to Destiny 1, so there could be more momentum for Destiny 2 compared to Battlefront 2. I'm leaning towards Destiny 2 being second best in sales.
Edit: I forgot about Destiny 2 being on PC, so it's definitely taken second place. COD:WWII is having good word of mouth and could be the best selling Call of Duty game this gen. I underestimated the amount of people who dislike the futuristic gameplay, which I like
Edit: I forgot about Destiny 2 being on PC, so it's definitely taken second place. COD:WWII is having good word of mouth and could be the best selling Call of Duty game this gen. I underestimated the amount of people who dislike the futuristic gameplay, which I like
Muffdraul
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Personally I want it to be Destiny 2, but I have no idea how the current user base figures compare for each franchise. My gut tells me to assume that while Destiny has a more "hardcore/passionate/emotionally invested" base, COD probably still has a bigger one size fits all/lowest common denominator base.
I had no idea Battlefront was a serious competitor for either of the other two, but generally speaking online MMO stuff isn't my scene, I'm clueless. I'm a casual Destiny fan, 90% of the time I play it solo, still have never done a raid, cry in the corner being jealous of everyone with their flashy exotics. In fact I'm only just now starting to pick it up again because of the Destiny 2 announcement, all this time I've had the DLC expansions installed but never bothered to play them until a few days ago. Can't even play RoI because my Light is only 223 or some shit.
I had no idea Battlefront was a serious competitor for either of the other two, but generally speaking online MMO stuff isn't my scene, I'm clueless. I'm a casual Destiny fan, 90% of the time I play it solo, still have never done a raid, cry in the corner being jealous of everyone with their flashy exotics. In fact I'm only just now starting to pick it up again because of the Destiny 2 announcement, all this time I've had the DLC expansions installed but never bothered to play them until a few days ago. Can't even play RoI because my Light is only 223 or some shit.
Possumowner
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CoD....Destiny 2....then Battlefront.Sales wise anyhow,but Destiny 2 will keep a great player base
Destiny 2.
I think CoD might be number 2 because of brand recognition ("Hey, it's the new CoD, I better buy this") but I feel that it's going to get favorable reviews due to the setting being a breath of fresh air but won't sell up to CoD standards because the fan base just wants either two things: either updated Modern Warfare MP (CoD MW2 Remastered coming?) or updated Black Ops II MP (Treyarch's turn at the CoD helm isn't until next year, unfortunately). Sledgehammer is basically set up to fail this go around.
SWB2 will likely be #3 for similar reasons why SWB didn't do as well (it's not Battlefield enough to grab Battlefield players and isn't Battlefront enough to get the old SWB crowd). If Titanfall 2's universally acclaimed single player couildn't save it then I have little faith in SWB2's single player mode significantly boosting sales, Star Wars IP be damned.
But yeah, Destiny 2 is going to sell boatloads across all three platforms: PS4, X1 and now PC. The key thing is that legacy players on PS3 and 360 that have been stubborn to upgrade to Destiny on PS4 or X1 will likely still buy D2, but on PC instead (and of course all of the legacy players that have bought PS4's and X1's since D1's release will buy D2). Destiny 2 is lined up to be Activision's new #1 brand as long as they don't catastrophically mess things up during this final stretch over the summer.
I think CoD might be number 2 because of brand recognition ("Hey, it's the new CoD, I better buy this") but I feel that it's going to get favorable reviews due to the setting being a breath of fresh air but won't sell up to CoD standards because the fan base just wants either two things: either updated Modern Warfare MP (CoD MW2 Remastered coming?) or updated Black Ops II MP (Treyarch's turn at the CoD helm isn't until next year, unfortunately). Sledgehammer is basically set up to fail this go around.
SWB2 will likely be #3 for similar reasons why SWB didn't do as well (it's not Battlefield enough to grab Battlefield players and isn't Battlefront enough to get the old SWB crowd). If Titanfall 2's universally acclaimed single player couildn't save it then I have little faith in SWB2's single player mode significantly boosting sales, Star Wars IP be damned.
But yeah, Destiny 2 is going to sell boatloads across all three platforms: PS4, X1 and now PC. The key thing is that legacy players on PS3 and 360 that have been stubborn to upgrade to Destiny on PS4 or X1 will likely still buy D2, but on PC instead (and of course all of the legacy players that have bought PS4's and X1's since D1's release will buy D2). Destiny 2 is lined up to be Activision's new #1 brand as long as they don't catastrophically mess things up during this final stretch over the summer.
Laurel_McFang
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The original Destiny was kind of a MvP type of thing. Destiny 2 will probably surpass the original. CoD has been on a slide for awhile. Activision needs to rethink the dude bro fps experience a bit CoD needs a break as bad as Assassin's Creed did.
Madden, a game that only really sells in the US?
Shouldn't be a big problem for Destiny 2.
lol
SmartWaffles
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Destiny > COD > Battlefront easily.
anothertech
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Destiny done right has a chance. It could be the Halo of this gen. They just fcked up the first one.
Destiny 2 will be interesting to see in action in a few weeks.
Not sure if sales wise can keep up with cod, but could make the fps landscape interesting for sure. Technically, Destiny released when COD ghosts released. Which has the higher player count at this point?
Cod has blops3 and infinite warefare since destiny release, but destiny still has that player base. It's a beast retention wise.
Destiny 2 will be interesting to see in action in a few weeks.
Not sure if sales wise can keep up with cod, but could make the fps landscape interesting for sure. Technically, Destiny released when COD ghosts released. Which has the higher player count at this point?
Cod has blops3 and infinite warefare since destiny release, but destiny still has that player base. It's a beast retention wise.
Darkstorne
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Yep. I'm crossing my fingers that Bungie will have nailed Destiny 2 and release an amazing game, but the time constraints forced on them through their contract mean you couldn't even pay me to pre-order this game.
AHA-Lambda
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I'm not a Destiny fan at all I admit (I haven't touched it since the vanilla launch to be fair and hated it) and so it's reach within the market is maybe more an unknown to me, but I don't understand the precedent in this thread for so many people thinking this game will be the biggest game of the year :/
Big? Of course.
Bigger than CoD, FIFA, RDR2, and Star Wars? Is Destiny really that big to beat any one of those? I can MAYBE see it beating BF2 :/
Big? Of course.
Bigger than CoD, FIFA, RDR2, and Star Wars? Is Destiny really that big to beat any one of those? I can MAYBE see it beating BF2 :/
lot of Destiny will hinge on how it's marketed. if it comes off as a marginal improvement i could see CoD throttling past it, though Destiny will obvs have better legs
i think a lot of goodwill was lost with Battlefront 1 but maybe star wars mania will be in full effect again. not that i doubt Last Jedi will be huge but but star wars has been "back" for years now, its not going to be fever pitch like it was in 2015
i think a lot of goodwill was lost with Battlefront 1 but maybe star wars mania will be in full effect again. not that i doubt Last Jedi will be huge but but star wars has been "back" for years now, its not going to be fever pitch like it was in 2015
We need a better abbreviation for battlefront vs battlefield.
We need a couple of clarifications for the questions in the op:
Worldwide or just US?
Do only the sales in the release year count, or LTD?
console only or including PC?
If its worldwide and LTD, Destiny 1 is slightly ahead of the best selling CoD, Modern Warfare 3 which sits at ~30,6 mio units sold. Considering the decline of CoD over the years, and the launch on PC for Destiny, that should be an easy win for Destiny. CoD vs Battlefront II could go either way, Battlefront I sold a bit better than COD: IW, but CoD:WW will probably sell significantly better than IW, so i would say Battlefront II ends up last.
Worldwide or just US?
Do only the sales in the release year count, or LTD?
console only or including PC?
If its worldwide and LTD, Destiny 1 is slightly ahead of the best selling CoD, Modern Warfare 3 which sits at ~30,6 mio units sold. Considering the decline of CoD over the years, and the launch on PC for Destiny, that should be an easy win for Destiny. CoD vs Battlefront II could go either way, Battlefront I sold a bit better than COD: IW, but CoD:WW will probably sell significantly better than IW, so i would say Battlefront II ends up last.
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Do you have an estimate for destiny 1 numbers? I'd guess around 15 million but it's really thought since a ton is digital
I'd say CoD > destiny 2 > battlefront 2
Personally getting destiny 2 and battlefront 2 just based off gcu
destiny will be the best selling game this year. Game will be gigantic and will outsell cod IMO. The only I'm not sure about is rdr2.
After gta 5, rdr2 will sell 15m day one lol. Or not very far off it.
pwnzernator
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Why are people saying Destiny 2 will be good? The original was such crap. Am I missing something?
ArkhamFantasy
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Destiny and Battlefront are interesting games because the developers/publishers of those games have basically come out and said that they werent good enough and need to be dramatically improved in one way or another. But they were some of the best selling games of the generation anyways. Shows you the power that marketing has on this industry.
In Destiny 2's case, Bungie has actually shown improvement over the last 3 years, so i think Destiny 2 being a step up is an easier sell, I think Battlefront likely didnt do Battlefront 2 any favors and EA is going to rely on Star Wars hype (launching with Episode 8) and sheer marketing power to sell the game.
Since this is the topic of first person shooters...
I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm betting World War 2 will be the better game.
How successful was Battlefield 1 compared to 3 and 4?
franklyshankly
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Because many people disagree about Destiny being "crap", particularly after the changes made over time.