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Who else is going PC (at least partially) with the incremental console movement?
RealityCheque
Banned
Consoles going incremental was just the last push I needed to go full-time on PC.
Bought a PS4 on day 1 and built my rig about 18 months ago, and gradually found myself using the playstation less and less. Turns out that the exclusives I thought I wanted from console gaming just didn't do much for me.
Sold my PS4 soon after the news about Neo started coming out. Will be sticking with PC for the foreseeable future.
Bought a PS4 on day 1 and built my rig about 18 months ago, and gradually found myself using the playstation less and less. Turns out that the exclusives I thought I wanted from console gaming just didn't do much for me.
Sold my PS4 soon after the news about Neo started coming out. Will be sticking with PC for the foreseeable future.
I'm PC+Vive, PS4 and 3DS. Depending on how well Ninty play their cards I could be switching out the 3DS with a NX (Zelda BoTW looks incredible and has me excited for the new system).
i can't imagine why anyone one choose x.5 consoles over PC unless you just really like sony/MS games or you only play a handful of games a year
i think the new console market is geared towards people who never consider PC as an option in the first place (i.e. practically nobody on neogaf)
i think the new console market is geared towards people who never consider PC as an option in the first place (i.e. practically nobody on neogaf)
Maroon Gamer
Member
I sold my PS4 and Xbox One couple months ago and all I have to say is:
I'm not someone who quickly reacts to news and ends up doing something like selling my PS4, but I have been thinking on building my first gaming PC rather than get a PS4 Neo. With the 480 being cheap, I think I may hop in. I'll just do a thorough cleaning on my PS4 and use it sparingly for exclusives (mostly jrpgs tbh).
If I'm going to buy a console, it'll be Nintendo's next one. If I do end up building a PC, I'm not gonna get another Sony console until my PS4 dies or they stop releasing their exclusives on it.
If I'm going to buy a console, it'll be Nintendo's next one. If I do end up building a PC, I'm not gonna get another Sony console until my PS4 dies or they stop releasing their exclusives on it.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
I moved to PC as my main back in late 2009, though I also owned all of the consoles from the previous generation. Since then, I've continued to upgrade my PC. Initially just purchasing a mid-range GPU to keep my system relevant, but then I also bought new RAM and moved to Solid State Drives. Recently, I rebuilt my entire system. Over this time period I continued to grow my game library across the various digital distribution platforms. I now have about 200 games spanning a great portion of gaming history.
Today, I have a solid gaming rig and have been playing at 1080p 60 FPS with near max settings for so long I don't think I'll ever accept anything less going forward. I already plan to purchase a GTX 1070 once they become more widely available.
I have no regrets about skipping this console generation entirely. Obviously I've made the conscious choice to skip out on some fantastic games, but overall I think the performance benefits of the PC alone more than make up for it. Playing The Witcher 3 all the way through at 60 FPS is an amazing experience. The first time I saw the game running on PS4 I thought there was something wrong with the game. That's how big of a gap in gameplay experience PC offers if you have the hardware to take advantage of it.
In the end though, I think console gaming offers a fine experience. PC gaming really reaches the next level when you start by purchasing higher end hardware. Specifically the GPU. Don't settle for the GTX 960's, save your money and aim for GTX 970+ level. You'll spend much less time pissing around with graphics options, have the overhead to take advantage of the various injector graphics tweaks, and most importantly can reasonably expect 1080p 60 FPS. I think 60 FPS is the most important thing to aim for when gaming on PC. It really does make a huge difference.
Today, I have a solid gaming rig and have been playing at 1080p 60 FPS with near max settings for so long I don't think I'll ever accept anything less going forward. I already plan to purchase a GTX 1070 once they become more widely available.
I have no regrets about skipping this console generation entirely. Obviously I've made the conscious choice to skip out on some fantastic games, but overall I think the performance benefits of the PC alone more than make up for it. Playing The Witcher 3 all the way through at 60 FPS is an amazing experience. The first time I saw the game running on PS4 I thought there was something wrong with the game. That's how big of a gap in gameplay experience PC offers if you have the hardware to take advantage of it.
In the end though, I think console gaming offers a fine experience. PC gaming really reaches the next level when you start by purchasing higher end hardware. Specifically the GPU. Don't settle for the GTX 960's, save your money and aim for GTX 970+ level. You'll spend much less time pissing around with graphics options, have the overhead to take advantage of the various injector graphics tweaks, and most importantly can reasonably expect 1080p 60 FPS. I think 60 FPS is the most important thing to aim for when gaming on PC. It really does make a huge difference.
StarPlatinumTheWorld
Member
Been a PC + console gamer all my life but only this year did I switch FULLY to PC only (sold my PS4 to my friend).
Brerlappin
Member
Im a PC/PS4 gamer. The whole scenario of the .5 console upgrades has turned me off this generation completely and i can see myself just sticking with PC going forward.
Its bad enough upgrading graphics cards every few yeas, but upgrading your console to go along with it? No, im cool thanks.
Its bad enough upgrading graphics cards every few yeas, but upgrading your console to go along with it? No, im cool thanks.
It's not just because of the incremental upgrades, but I haven't enjoyed my PS4 all that much, and I'm now transitioning to PC and selling the PS4. I can still get that console gaming feeling on the couch with a controller with the Steam Link, and there is of course the possibility to buy a (better) PS4 again in the future when there's more exclusives and it's fairly cheap.
Next couple of years will be PC+Nintendo for me, feels good.
Next couple of years will be PC+Nintendo for me, feels good.
test_account
XP-39C²
I cant really see why incremental consoles would have much effect on this because if someone care about upgrading the hardware to get better graphics, its something that will apply to both consoles and PC, and the money you're spending is probably not going to be a lot cheaper on one system. Otherwise you can just stay with the previous console model or using a PC with older hardware for a while longer.
If i would go back to PC-gaming again, it would be because i want to play certain games and getting better graphics. I was an active PC gamer from 1994 to 2009/2010, but i havnt bothered buying a new PC since 2005/2006. I've been thinking about it though.
If i would go back to PC-gaming again, it would be because i want to play certain games and getting better graphics. I was an active PC gamer from 1994 to 2009/2010, but i havnt bothered buying a new PC since 2005/2006. I've been thinking about it though.
Lil'DigiOp
Member
I'm planning to go PC because I like Emulation and Game Preservation.
I'll continue to get the consoles with the best exclusives though.
I'll continue to get the consoles with the best exclusives though.
martino
Member
on one you are assure to have better control when / how / why you upgrade. a big difference imo
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
LOL, try every 4 years for entire PC. Every 2 years for GPU. That is to constantly run Ultra 1080p/60 (soon to be 4k/60)
was a console gamer all my life (but obv. Had a pc as well) and wanted to buy the ps4 at launch but then they showed weak consoles plus there are not many console exclusives left so I bought a beefy new system. I ll buy the nx for the nin stuff and the rest is all on pc. No need for moviecharted (horizon looks cool though)
Darryl M R
Member
I'm looking to build a PC for my Xbox exclusives and maybe I'll decide to pick up other games there as well. I'm just concerned about using mouse and keyboard when I prefer a controller. I don't want to get wrecked in FPS.
I'm not sure if console users upgrade their TV more often than PC users update their monitors but that is also a huge expense for both parties.
I'm not sure if console users upgrade their TV more often than PC users update their monitors but that is also a huge expense for both parties.
I've been gaming on high-end PCs since 2011 along with the consoles. I only buy exclusives and anything I can get on PC I'll get on PC. Works for me. I'll get the PS4NEO as well so the exclusives will play and look even better. This is a major hobby for me and is part of my everyday life so I'm willing to invest in it. I can do without occasional restaurant dinners etc. so I can finance my passion. Another 500e is a lot of money, but in relative terms it's not that much for what I consider a passion and will carry me at least for some years. I don't really drink so I save a lot of money compared to my friends who go and get hammered twice a month. I don't have a car either so no moneysink there either. I can easily afford this incremental upgrade.
You did not need to change your CPU since if you got a 2500k.
Aztechnology
Member
To be fair I think most developers will prioritize image quality and framerate over pushing 4k. It's up the the developers as we know and developers are typically going to prioritize something that benefits the largest audience unless paid specifically not to.
Sad Affleck
Member
It's great that more people are playing on PC but I don't really understand how incremental console releases affect that decision. What is it about Scorpio ans Neo that makes people want to give up on consoles?
The beautiful thing about PCgaming is that it is about options.
martino
Member
i'm not sure seeing console like in 90 (on what and where they are used) is still a good thing.
But yes pc conditions give you more reasons to upgrade your screen because of more frequent and earlier acces to innovations (or found only there)
blacklotus
Member
Still mainly pc, will keep. Buying a new gpu next year when my EA money arrives.
I switched from weak PC/PS360 to moderately powered PC in 2011. It was the realization that PlayStation had changed and passed me by and that I could get the games I was playing on XBox on PC alongside my strategy games with better graphics, mods, etc. What made the twins redundant for me is the homogenization of those consoles and PC last generation, not the iterative future.
What is this homogenization? Well, Xbox had a bit Sega and a bit PC-has-come-to-consoles flavor. Xbox 360 was pretty much just the latter. Meanwhile, HD development killed and/or stalled a lot of Sony's Japanese support and PS3's biggest games mostly came to be those also big on Xbox and its first party exclusives. Then we had steam coming into its own in the latter part of the generation, whose biggest games were also those shared titles. For the most part AAA has passed me by, but if, say, BioWare wins me back (which I'd love), then I can already get that on PC. Why have an Xbox? Halo? I'm not a huge Halo guy or an online shooter guy period. Why have a PS? I didn't like the PS3 stable of exclusives for the most part and those are emblematic of what Sony is these days. Why have a PC? I can play Civilization, CK2, etc. and have the widest access to gems old and new.
The only consoles that I have wanted to buy (and bought) this generation are the Wii U and the 3DS. Going forward, my next console purchase will probably be NX. Xbox is making itself more redundant all the time, giving me a way to play its exclusives on my PC going forward. Perhaps PS4 will reach critical mass of titles I really want to play and aren't on PC. If it does, I'll probably get the Neo model. I don't think it'll happen, but it might.
What is this homogenization? Well, Xbox had a bit Sega and a bit PC-has-come-to-consoles flavor. Xbox 360 was pretty much just the latter. Meanwhile, HD development killed and/or stalled a lot of Sony's Japanese support and PS3's biggest games mostly came to be those also big on Xbox and its first party exclusives. Then we had steam coming into its own in the latter part of the generation, whose biggest games were also those shared titles. For the most part AAA has passed me by, but if, say, BioWare wins me back (which I'd love), then I can already get that on PC. Why have an Xbox? Halo? I'm not a huge Halo guy or an online shooter guy period. Why have a PS? I didn't like the PS3 stable of exclusives for the most part and those are emblematic of what Sony is these days. Why have a PC? I can play Civilization, CK2, etc. and have the widest access to gems old and new.
The only consoles that I have wanted to buy (and bought) this generation are the Wii U and the 3DS. Going forward, my next console purchase will probably be NX. Xbox is making itself more redundant all the time, giving me a way to play its exclusives on my PC going forward. Perhaps PS4 will reach critical mass of titles I really want to play and aren't on PC. If it does, I'll probably get the Neo model. I don't think it'll happen, but it might.
Elven_Star
Member
I would have built a PC regardless of the console thing, if I had the money. I had PC + PS3 last gen, and it was glorious. So, this has not changed anything 
My PS4 is gonna stay off till FFXV. Mainly playing on Vita nowadays.
My PS4 is gonna stay off till FFXV. Mainly playing on Vita nowadays.NoblesseOblige
Banned
I'm not.
I was mostly pc already.
Battlechili
Banned
There's no confirmation obviously but there are reasons to believe that those may be ported to PC in the future. Taro said in an inteview a while back that exclusivity wasn't decided, and..Well actually with Star Ocean, in an interview they had it sounded less like a possibility and more like something that's going to happen eventually.
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/square-enix-considering-star-ocean-5-pc-port
I would expect most Square Enix games to wind up on PC at some point tbh.
Its also takes muuuch longer to do these various updates on console than it does on PC.
pizzasqueeze
Neo Member
Once you get out of the walled garden, it's hard going back from the freedom granted on PC (be it price, graphics settings, mods, etc. etc.).
RichiRamjag
Member
Been building PCs since I was a teen, I still prefer the experience of a console if given the chance. I even keep my
gaming rig updated (for whatever reason). If given the choice, I'd go console 9 times out of ten. There are plenty of reasons why you'd go one way or the other depending on your personal preferences. A .5 console to me is no different than paying for the upgrade of a video card.
I'm not saying PC is shit,it's perfectly fine, it just doesn't always meet everyone's expectations or fit into their day to day. Folks need to realize that sooner or later.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Yep, for me Bloodbone and I already sold my xbone for 230$. Good riddance!
Yea, i remember reading about those, and im pretty hyped for possible PC ports.
I'm just impatient and want to play Star Ocean now lol. Huge fan of the series (even 4)
Why would you buy an expensive XB1 instead of a cheap Steam Link for this particular purpose?
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
lol.
I'm not mad an incremental consoles. It just doesn't appeal to me. It's wasteful and bad for the environment to replace whole consoles every 3-4 years vs just a couple of pc components.
Not to mention I listed several other reasons for taking the PC plunge in addition to that.
That became a non-issue once I got a man cave that has my PC, a 55" TV and my consoles.
I couldn't care less about 4k. I'll upgrade video card when my PC is running stuff worse than current consoles, which is always well below Ultra settings on PC. So I'm guessing I card upgrade every 4-5 years. Processor upgrades can be even more infrequent, and I can go up to 32gb RAM easily when needed as I've got to empty slots.
KenzinFive
Member
I got a discounted i3 Alienware Alpha last year and I love it, but it's already long in the tooth even with a RAM & SSD upgrade. I picked up Doom for PS4 because it would look and run better there. I also got Overwatch for PS4 because the Alpha is connected to my TV and it isn't suitable for keyboard & mouse playing.
Looking at the prospect of another $400 for the Neo and $400-$500 for the Scorpio has pushed me more towards finally building/buying a future-proofed rig. The issue is that I can't just give up my three consoles. The Wii U has all the Nintendo exclusives, the PS4 has its exclusives like Bloodborne, and I'm stuck with the Xbox One because all of my Rock Band DLC was on 360. If the NX is backwards compatible with the Wii U in some way, I'll obviously dump the Wii U for it. But I won't be able to sell the other consoles for a while.
I think, at least, I'll forgo the updated consoles and just save money to build a badass PC, even if it won't be able to fit under my TV stand. Seeing as I just bought a house though, it's going to be maybe a year before I have enough for a new PC.
Looking at the prospect of another $400 for the Neo and $400-$500 for the Scorpio has pushed me more towards finally building/buying a future-proofed rig. The issue is that I can't just give up my three consoles. The Wii U has all the Nintendo exclusives, the PS4 has its exclusives like Bloodborne, and I'm stuck with the Xbox One because all of my Rock Band DLC was on 360. If the NX is backwards compatible with the Wii U in some way, I'll obviously dump the Wii U for it. But I won't be able to sell the other consoles for a while.
I think, at least, I'll forgo the updated consoles and just save money to build a badass PC, even if it won't be able to fit under my TV stand. Seeing as I just bought a house though, it's going to be maybe a year before I have enough for a new PC.
BacklashWave534
Member
I am. No more Xbox or Nintendo (especially after the Wii u) consoles for me. I'll stick with Sony for exclusives. If Sony ever decides to do PC releases than I'm done with consoles permanently.
Collateral22
Member
Sold my X1 to fund my PC. Have a PS4/PC setup atm and I love it. Will upgrade it down the line to 144hz/4k capable and get the NEO too.
For me, I buy consoles with the idea that it will be the most powerful console for at least 4-6 years. Making incremental upgrades takes away the appeal of consoles that's separated them from PCs.
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